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Post by hoopjunkie on Feb 8, 2013 16:55:11 GMT -5
Who was the Loyola coach who left the bench to sit in the stands during a game? Dino Gaudio, why?
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Post by saints22 on Feb 8, 2013 16:59:04 GMT -5
2. acted calm, cool and collective That's "cool, calm and collect ed".
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Post by yoda1977 on Feb 8, 2013 17:14:21 GMT -5
2. acted calm, cool and collected That's "cool, calm and collect ed". Sorry, my friend...the answer is : 1. Blew his Irish top off ;D
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Post by mrsiena on Feb 8, 2013 18:37:19 GMT -5
HJ; It was Patsos that sat in the stands during a game.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Feb 8, 2013 19:05:30 GMT -5
HJ; It was Patsos that sat in the stands during a game. I know, I was being facetious about it. glen wanted us to answer "Pastos" so he could immediately dismis him as an option..... .....but he's also the guy that wouldn't take Hewitt back, so....
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Post by yoda1977 on Feb 8, 2013 20:39:10 GMT -5
So there is at least two coach's who have wanted this job in the past ! 1. Coen 2. Patsos ..any others ?!
Again ...if they really want the job this time- they know who the contact via 3rd party!
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Post by bigfan on Feb 8, 2013 20:57:16 GMT -5
Please. Misspellings in posts are tolerable, but at least try to get freaking names right. It's Patsos, not "Pastos".
I'll go back to lurking now.
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Post by SienaRocks on Feb 8, 2013 21:29:09 GMT -5
I would LOVE to see Patsos as our coach. When he first arrived at Loyola I used to laugh at his antics on the sidelines, before realizing it was all his schtick to get his team playing with energy. I'd love to see what he would do with our team, and he's a proven recruiter.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Feb 8, 2013 21:37:51 GMT -5
He is EXACTLY what this program needs. He'll bring toughness and energy. He can flat out recruit and he'll do even better with all that Siena has to offer.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 8, 2013 22:27:12 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm not going to change any minds here, but I'm still not loving Jimmy Patsos as head coach of Siena. Set aside my previous concerns, and let's talk about wins. Not one of them has come against a power 6 conference team with a winning record. The only victory was at a 12-21 Indiana team. One MAAC Tournament championship. Zero Maac regular Season titles. Only one non conference post season GAME in 9 seasons (last year's NCAA loss), so no NITs CBI, CIT wins or even appearances. His teams have only finished in the top 150 of the RPI (basically the minimum standard for Siena) twice in nine years. Basically he has had one good season, which happens to be last season and thus fresh in everyone's minds. Throw out his first season which was a rebuilding job and last season's success and he's still a .500 coach. That's .500 in conference and .500 out of conference, and not against tough schedules either. His penchant for transfers are hit and miss, arguably leading to two losing seasons in the middle of his tenure. So if we had Patsos we would likely have one or two good seasons followed by a few mediocre seasons, as multiple transfers do not offer consistency for your program at our level.
You may say well nobody wins at Loyola, it's not fair. Well, Skip Prosser took just one season to win a championship at Loyola. A good coach can win anywhere.
Now, I do like the fact that he is loyal. I like the intensity (to a point). I like that he is more involved with the fan base, that is important. He would be an advocate for the program, maybe light a fire under the admins to build the program or at least follow their own stated goals. I like the fact that he likes Siena.
He's a good choice, a safe choice. Is he a coach that is capable of leading the Saints to multiple NCAA tournaments and other post season runs? I don't think so. I'm not sure that he believes that a team like Siena can take down teams like Ohio State. He said as much when explaining his triangle and two (I know I said I wouldn't mention it, but it is relevant). I think some people just want a quick fix and are missing the bigger picture. But hey, anybody would be better than Mitch, who just said "SS on national tv, so if we hire him, welcome aboard Jimmy!
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Post by saints22 on Feb 9, 2013 11:37:24 GMT -5
So there is at least two coach's who have wanted this job in the past ! 1. Coen 2. Patsos ..any others ?! Again ...if they really want the job this time- they know who the contact via 3rd party! Do you just make this stuff up as you go along? Where did you read that Coach Patsos wants to coach at Siena. HJ started this thread by saying that he heard from somebody that Patsos is not happy about leaving the MAAC, and that HJ thinks that Patsos would be a good candidate for our next coach. So now you've convinced yourself that he wants to coach at Siena? And where did you get the idea that Coach Coen wants to coach here? Yes, he did interview for the job, but that seems to have been not much more than a way for him to get a raise and new contract at Northeastern, not a serious effort to get this job.
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Post by saints22 on Feb 9, 2013 11:41:56 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm not going to change any minds here, but I'm still not loving Jimmy Patsos as head coach of Siena. Set aside my previous concerns, and let's talk about wins. Not one of them has come against a power 6 conference team with a winning record. The only victory was at a 12-21 Indiana team. One MAAC Tournament championship. Zero Maac regular Season titles. Only one non conference post season GAME in 9 seasons (last year's NCAA loss), so no NITs CBI, CIT wins or even appearances. His teams have only finished in the top 150 of the RPI (basically the minimum standard for Siena) twice in nine years. Basically he has had one good season, which happens to be last season and thus fresh in everyone's minds. Throw out his first season which was a rebuilding job and last season's success and he's still a .500 coach. That's .500 in conference and .500 out of conference, and not against tough schedules either. His penchant for transfers are hit and miss, arguably leading to two losing seasons in the middle of his tenure. So if we had Patsos we would likely have one or two good seasons followed by a few mediocre seasons, as multiple transfers do not offer consistency for your program at our level. You may say well nobody wins at Loyola, it's not fair. Well, Skip Prosser took just one season to win a championship at Loyola. A good coach can win anywhere. Now, I do like the fact that he is loyal. I like the intensity (to a point). I like that he is more involved with the fan base, that is important. He would be an advocate for the program, maybe light a fire under the admins to build the program or at least follow their own stated goals. I like the fact that he likes Siena. He's a good choice, a safe choice. Is he a coach that is capable of leading the Saints to multiple NCAA tournaments and other post season runs? I don't think so. I'm not sure that he believes that a team like Siena can take down teams like Ohio State. He said as much when explaining his triangle and two (I know I said I wouldn't mention it, but it is relevant). I think some people just want a quick fix and are missing the bigger picture. But hey, anybody would be better than Mitch, who just said "SS on national tv, so if we hire him, welcome aboard Jimmy! Good post, G-Man. You make some valid points. Coach Patsos has a lot going for him but, as you point out, there are question marks. Looking for the right guy is not an easy, open-and-shut process. Just about everyone will have a mixed portfolio.
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 9, 2013 13:34:36 GMT -5
I'm sure I'm not going to change any minds here, but I'm still not loving Jimmy Patsos as head coach of Siena. Set aside my previous concerns, and let's talk about wins. Not one of them has come against a power 6 conference team with a winning record. The only victory was at a 12-21 Indiana team. One MAAC Tournament championship. Zero Maac regular Season titles. Only one non conference post season GAME in 9 seasons (last year's NCAA loss), so no NITs CBI, CIT wins or even appearances. His teams have only finished in the top 150 of the RPI (basically the minimum standard for Siena) twice in nine years. Basically he has had one good season, which happens to be last season and thus fresh in everyone's minds. Throw out his first season which was a rebuilding job and last season's success and he's still a .500 coach. That's .500 in conference and .500 out of conference, and not against tough schedules either. His penchant for transfers are hit and miss, arguably leading to two losing seasons in the middle of his tenure. So if we had Patsos we would likely have one or two good seasons followed by a few mediocre seasons, as multiple transfers do not offer consistency for your program at our level. You may say well nobody wins at Loyola, it's not fair. Well, Skip Prosser took just one season to win a championship at Loyola. A good coach can win anywhere. Now, I do like the fact that he is loyal. I like the intensity (to a point). I like that he is more involved with the fan base, that is important. He would be an advocate for the program, maybe light a fire under the admins to build the program or at least follow their own stated goals. I like the fact that he likes Siena. He's a good choice, a safe choice. Is he a coach that is capable of leading the Saints to multiple NCAA tournaments and other post season runs? I don't think so. I'm not sure that he believes that a team like Siena can take down teams like Ohio State. He said as much when explaining his triangle and two (I know I said I wouldn't mention it, but it is relevant). I think some people just want a quick fix and are missing the bigger picture. But hey, anybody would be better than Mitch, who just said "SS on national tv, so if we hire him, welcome aboard Jimmy! I couldn't agree more. I'm really not sure Pastos is the answer. I like Toole and Horn but if Pastos is really interested he should not be dismissed.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Feb 9, 2013 13:42:37 GMT -5
So there is at least two coach's who have wanted this job in the past ! 1. Coen 2. Patsos ..any others ?! Again ...if they really want the job this time- they know who the contact via 3rd party! Do you just make this stuff up as you go along? Where did you read that Coach Patsos wants to coach at Siena. HJ started this thread by saying that he heard from somebody that Patsos is not happy about leaving the MAAC, and that HJ thinks that Patsos would be a good candidate for our next coach. So now you've convinced yourself that he wants to coach at Siena? And where did you get the idea that Coach Coen wants to coach here? Yes, he did interview for the job, but that seems to have been not much more than a way for him to get a raise and new contract at Northeastern, not a serious effort to get this job. 22, you should re-read the title of this thread He'd take the job in aminute, if offered. I don't think he would if Loyola was still in the MAAC. I do think he knows he's bought that program as far as it go, and wants to climb the ladder. It might be only one or two rungs, but Siena is a definite upgrade with the opportunity to get tot he next level someday. What Pastos did at this school is beyond remarkable. They were 1-27, nobody came to the games. Last night was their 5th sellout! He'd own this town in 2 years. Gorvy: Prosser went 6-8 in the conference in his one year at Loyola. They got on a lucky streak late led by the deaf kid from DeMatha at the Knick. (Never forget Tracy sitting on the hoop on the front of the TU sports page)
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Post by glensfalls on Feb 9, 2013 14:58:51 GMT -5
It is disrespectful to Coach Buonaguro and the young men on the Siena basketball team to talk about Siena hiring a new coach until this season concludes.
Siena has only one men's head basketball coach. Until his contract is terminated then all Siena fans should support Coach Buonaguro and our team.
I hope that the handful of Siena "fans" that have posted their admiration for Mr. Pastos were not cheering against Siena last night.
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