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Post by rickyp on Apr 16, 2018 13:09:40 GMT -5
If Beilin is the guy you could find out if his coaching abilities are up to par quickly.I'm very interested on how he'll make his system fit with this current roster.How does he decide who he wants to keep who he tells fit isn't right.That's a big decision for him how can you evaluate guys you haven't seen play.Going forward how he fits the pieces he's left with into his system. What kind of players he gets with the 2 or how many scholarships he would have,to me could very well tell you a lot about his recruiting.How they develop after he's hired.Those are things that could really impress me before the season starts.JMO
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 13:16:01 GMT -5
If Beilin is the guy you could find out if his coaching abilities are up to par quickly.I'm very interested on how he'll make his system fit with this current roster.How does he decide who he wants to keep who he tells fit isn't right.That's a big decision for him how can you evaluate guys you haven't seen play.Going forward how he fits the pieces he's left with into his system. What kind of players he gets with the 2 or how many scholarships he would have,to me could very well tell you a lot about his recruiting.How they develop after he's hired.Those are things that could really impress me before the season starts.JMO All very true but don't forget he and his staff saw this team in action and beat them on our home court. I'm sure some scouting was done on the returning players while the freshmen were big unknowns as far as prepping a D1 scout.
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Post by rickyp on Apr 16, 2018 14:12:02 GMT -5
You know if you go back and look at that game it was almost a outlier for the season.They spread our big lineup out top off the key pick and rolled us to death.Even thou our freshman didn't play good JP never adjusted to them.He kept trying to force his system.Therefore look at our season in a nut shell with the exception of the freshman playing better the rest of the year..I never thought that lost was bad you had a D2 team with high major and MM transfer seniors.Playing against a inexperienced poorly coached team in reality.JMO
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Post by saints22 on Apr 16, 2018 15:01:31 GMT -5
Siena is probably going to end up with another loser with current management. Just have fun here Just can't help yourself, can you? Don't you ever get tired of saying the same thing over and over again? And I don't know how everyone else out here feels about it, but every so often could you read over what you type before you hit "Enter"? Going over the posts a second time before forwarding them would go a long way (I hope, anyway) to making them more readable. Thanks.
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Post by olddave on Apr 16, 2018 15:44:07 GMT -5
Siena is probably going to end up with another loser with current management. Just have fun here Just can't help yourself, can you? Don't you ever get tired of saying the same thing over and over again? And I don't know how everyone else out here feels about it, but every so often could you read over what you type before you hit "Enter"? Going over the posts a second time before forwarding them would go a long way (I hope, anyway) to making them more readable. Thanks. No I can’t. You don’t like people refuting your arguments. You don’t want to admit the school has been badly mismanaged. Bury your head in the sand, live in the past, it’s obvious the present and future have passed you by. I, along with the majority want the school to succeed. Be it on th court or in the classroom. Time to bring in a team that will study and make the necessary changes to make the school viable moving forward. Your good at at commenting on different folks, but offer no,solutions. I still respect your opinion, because I respect everyone’s. This isn’t the 60,70’s.
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Post by th24 on Apr 16, 2018 15:53:04 GMT -5
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Post by bigfan on Apr 16, 2018 17:38:41 GMT -5
More Media idiocy here...I love this gem from WGNA...
"Siena's list of all time coaches include Paul Hewitt, Mike Deane, and Fran McCaffery. They're considered coaching legends and Pitino would join those ranks."
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Post by marshotel on Apr 16, 2018 18:04:48 GMT -5
I picked Pitino in the poll, taking names based on basketball only it seemed the obvious choice for me. Any issues with character can be resolved with the right PR campaign. If the two sides were smart they would figure a way to make it work. A coach’s ego to match that of its delusional fan base, it’s a match made in heaven 😉
Runner up was for me was Becker, I like the fact that he has D1 experience and has a solid foundation at UVM. Becker has pretty good gig he’s at the top of the AE, he his winning games and has a solid group of kids. Siena is at the basement of the MAAC, a team that can’t seem to string wins together and a roster that need serious churn to become contenders at the top of the MAAC. I just don’t see the appeal with Siena for someone like Becker . Becker has burnt Siena on the recruiting trail and that memory may be etched in the minds of Siena fans. Becker definitely recruited well but it seems liek some kids were gift wrapped to him (Nash). Last year A-10’s Duquesne was spurred by Becker and that opening turned out to be 400k plus payday. Siena would need to present similar type of money that Dunlevy got to lure Becker from Vermont, I just don’t see that happening, and of course that is just this man's opinion.
McNamara, Davis and Caputo all seem too risky a move imo. Maybe it’s my own ignorance having less information on these potential candidates but I just don’t see it happening. I looked in to Davis and Caputo a bit more than McNamara but all three left me having the same concern about recruiting. After witnessing the past few years recruiting at Siena was a sore spot with me. I hope that it’s a major topic of discussion with the candidates under consideration and who they intend to hire and where they intend to recruit.
That leaves Beilein, who I would put as third choice from this group. I’m looking at the Le Moyne roster and I’m asking myself the same questions I did with Davis, Caputo and McNamara will this guy be able to recruit at Siena. I’m re-reading this roster page 2-3 times because I keep counting 9 seniors. Beilein reloads with transfers and jucos and that strategy isn’t going to work at Siena.
Like it or lump it, all signs points to Pinto as the best choice. I would rather see the Athletic Director managing the coaches\schools image and activities than babysitting the coaches recruiting and on court performance. We had 8 years of poor recruiting and x’s and o’s, it’s clear the combined efforts of coach and AD was not enough. The AD needs to pick the best basketball option and worry about the rest later.
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Post by bigfan on Apr 16, 2018 19:15:32 GMT -5
I voted for Becker because I like his experience AND record. Beilein my second choice; still think he's the most likely hire. Pitino makes me very uneasy - don't like the baggage. At all. That would be a wildly hypocritical move by the school.
Would love it if Becker could bring Moll with him.
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Post by th24 on Apr 16, 2018 20:01:05 GMT -5
Patrick Beilein might be the best choice! He comes across as VERY Intelligent and NO drama!
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Post by bigfan on Apr 16, 2018 20:11:22 GMT -5
With Beilein as handsome as he is, I might be able to convince my wife to come to the sneak peek
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Post by IndianSaint on Apr 16, 2018 21:05:01 GMT -5
Pitino-Pipe Dream 1-Becker 2-Beilein 3-Davis 4-Caputo 5-McNamara I dream pretty big. Looks like we’re getting Rick.
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Post by ltf on Apr 16, 2018 21:23:58 GMT -5
I think we have to get past the Franciscan Values, Franciscan traditions, holier than thou attitude. etc. and take a hard look at exactly where these great Franciscan values have taken the school. Siena is a small regional liberal arts college with a primary focus on business that, according to rumors, is struggling financially, is average (maybe slightly above) academically and has an athletic program that is in the toilet. We are not talking about preserving or protecting the Holy Grail here. Maybe Siena should copy Dominican Values like Providence has or Jesuit Values like Xavier or Gonzaga. And Siena's skirts are not squeaky clean either. There have been problems with students and coaches in the past, both sexually and in the community, Unlike Caesar's wife, Siena is not beyond reproach. Given the current situation, financially and athletically, there is only one candidate who can turn things around relatively quickly with little risk, Pitino. The others represent long term solutions, maybe, assuming they can recruit or assuming they can coach, depending on who is selected. And when Siena begins to win, all sins will be forgiven! (It's the Franciscan Way).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2018 2:55:29 GMT -5
Pitino-Pipe Dream 1-Becker 2-Beilein 3-Davis 4-Caputo 5-McNamara I dream pretty big. Looks like we’re getting Rick. Welcome back.
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Post by Tony on Apr 17, 2018 5:04:30 GMT -5
Let’s hope the interview process is moving along
It’s not like I want Siena to rush but…. It’s not like a surprise JP is gone, so Darg/Siena should have been prepared for this. I have serious reservations about Darg being involved in any coaching search, given that 3 out of his last 4 hires have been horrible. Hate to see this process drag along for 3 to 6 weeks
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