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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 6:52:38 GMT -5
Looks like if it's not Pitino or Becker the majority will be unhappy with the hire. This should be an interesting week. Good Morning - Your "logic" skills are, well quite frankly, yours and yours alone - yikes! Where do you conjure up the idea that "the majority will be unhappy with the hire"? Did you get that from a group discussion during a cold rainy night with other trolls under your bridge? The question was "Who would you hire"... You did start my week off with a hearty laugh - thanks for that...
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 16, 2018 6:55:35 GMT -5
Looks like if it's not Pitino or Becker the majority will be unhappy with the hire. This should be an interesting week. Good Morning - Your "logic" skills are, well quite frankly, yours and yours alone - yikes! Where do you conjure up the idea that "the majority will be unhappy with the hire"? Did you get that from a group discussion during a cold rainy night with other trolls under your bridge? The question was "Who would you hire"... You did start my week off with a hearty laugh - thanks for that... Troll logic hard at work
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Post by Papi on Apr 16, 2018 7:00:55 GMT -5
Looks like if it's not Pitino or Becker the majority will be unhappy with the hire. This should be an interesting week. I think the majority would be happy with Beilein. Yup, all 10 of them. I think those who picked Pitino or Becker it's more wishful thinking than reality. It's fun to speculate, no one really knows what's going on behind the scenes and who is actually interested in the job or if Siena is interested in them. Beilein is the one guy who has been contacted though.
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Post by Quackman on Apr 16, 2018 8:15:21 GMT -5
I think the majority would be happy with Beilein. Yup, all 10 of them. I think those who picked Pitino or Becker it's more wishful thinking than reality. It's fun to speculate, no one really knows what's going on behind the scenes and who is actually interested in the job or if Siena is interested in them. Beilein is the one guy who has been contacted though. I voted for Becker, if he truly is in the mix, how can you complain about hiring a guy who does things the right way and wins big doing it? If it isn't him, I would love it to be Beilein, then Anderson.
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Post by sky on Apr 16, 2018 8:18:02 GMT -5
Looks like if it's not Pitino or Becker the majority will be unhappy with the hire. This should be an interesting week. Good Morning - Your "logic" skills are, well quite frankly, yours and yours alone - yikes! Where do you conjure up the idea that "the majority will be unhappy with the hire"? Did you get that from a group discussion during a cold rainy night with other trolls under your bridge? The question was "Who would you hire"... You did start my week off with a hearty laugh - thanks for that... When you and I went to Siena "logic" was a mandatory course...is it even taught any more...
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Post by james on Apr 16, 2018 8:20:44 GMT -5
Happy with Beilein;Happier with Becker;Ecstatic with Petino.GO SAINTS!!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 8:34:59 GMT -5
All those who want Pitino....I'm judging you.
Taking Pitino at the age of 65 when his moral reputation is in the 'shitter' and him going into kids homes and trying to tell their parents that 'this time it will be different'.
What makes people think that Pitino wouldn't just be another Jimmy situation?
He'd be in the twilight of his career with little chance of winning the NCAAs with our budget. On top of this, he'll be distracted with horses and NCAA legal battles.
What is to motivate him to put his best foot forward for Siena?
It won't be money. It won't be a national title. It would ONLY be redemption at best.
Pitino is the riskiest hire of the bunch.
And that's not even mentioning that Siena would officially lose any moral high ground that it ever claimed to have....as they would completely contradict everything said in Siena's official statement after Jimmy's dismissal.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 8:51:16 GMT -5
All those who want Pitino....I'm judging you. Taking Pitino at the age of 65 when his moral reputation is in the 'shitter' and him going into kids homes and trying to tell their parents that 'this time it will be different'. What makes people think that Pitino wouldn't just be another Jimmy situation? He'd be in the twilight of his career with little chance of winning the NCAAs with our budget. On top of this, he'll be distracted with horses and NCAA legal battles. What is to motivate him to put his best foot forward for Siena? It won't be money. It won't be a national title. It would ONLY be redemption at best. Pitino is the riskiest hire of the bunch. And that's not even mentioning that Siena would officially lose any moral high ground that it ever claimed to have....as they would completely contradict everything said in Siena's official statement after Jimmy's dismissal. Go ahead and judge. Siena would never allow it but it’s fun to speculate the what if’s.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 8:59:05 GMT -5
All those who want Pitino....I'm judging you. Taking Pitino at the age of 65 when his moral reputation is in the 'shitter' and him going into kids homes and trying to tell their parents that 'this time it will be different'. What makes people think that Pitino wouldn't just be another Jimmy situation? He'd be in the twilight of his career with little chance of winning the NCAAs with our budget. On top of this, he'll be distracted with horses and NCAA legal battles. What is to motivate him to put his best foot forward for Siena? It won't be money. It won't be a national title. It would ONLY be redemption at best. Pitino is the riskiest hire of the bunch. And that's not even mentioning that Siena would officially lose any moral high ground that it ever claimed to have....as they would completely contradict everything said in Siena's official statement after Jimmy's dismissal. Go ahead and judge. Siena would never allow it but it’s fun to speculate the what if’s. Yes. It's nice to speculate because it plays on the 'what ifs' of Siena jumping up to another level. It plays right to the typical Siena fan ego...even mine. But, let's be real, Siena is a school of just 3,000 kids...with no graduate program to speak of yet. Even a magician can't do that much magic at once. The thought of Pitino transforming Siena is largely a fantasy. And big schools still won't come to play us as long as we're in the MAAC. If anything, even less big schools might come if Pitino is here...as they'll be scared of losing to a team who plays in a lower conference. Thinking Pitino would equate to better teams in the TUC is just craziness. Pitino is not going rewrite how RPI is calculated. Nothing will change. Also, you always have to be wary of taking a BCS coach on the downside of his career. Look at Mike Deane... After Marquette, he failed at both Lamar AND Wagner.
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Post by ezrider on Apr 16, 2018 9:32:39 GMT -5
I admit I may be wrong, but didn't Deane guide both Lamar & Wagner to the NCAA tourney? I don't know how often those teams get to the NCAA, but I wouldn't characterize his time at either school as a failure.
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Post by musicman on Apr 16, 2018 9:38:05 GMT -5
Yup, all 10 of them. I think those who picked Pitino or Becker it's more wishful thinking than reality. It's fun to speculate, no one really knows what's going on behind the scenes and who is actually interested in the job or if Siena is interested in them. Beilein is the one guy who has been contacted though. I voted for Becker, if he truly is in the mix, how can you complain about hiring a guy who does things the right way and wins big doing it? If it isn't him, I would love it to be Beilein, then Anderson. I think it's really good that most Siena fans seem to feel that there are a number of good choices. I think the last selection for head coach was made due to the small field of attractive candidates. Not many fans felt great about the overall choices. I personally will be excited over a couple of these candidates.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:38:57 GMT -5
I admit I may be wrong, but didn't Deane guide both Lamar & Wagner to the NCAA tourney? I don't know how often those teams get to the NCAA, but I wouldn't characterize his time at either school as a failure. He did take Lamar to the tourney in his first year but, I don't think Wagner ever got there during his 5 or 6 (?) years there.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2018 9:39:28 GMT -5
I admit I may be wrong, but didn't Deane guide both Lamar & Wagner to the NCAA tourney? I don't know how often those teams get to the NCAA, but I wouldn't characterize his time at either school as a failure. He took a 15-16 Lamar team there in his 1st year likely by winning the conf. tournament...but his record there was just 52-62. He was 94-114 at Wagner over 7 years with just 1 year with over 16 wins...and 1 year with a winning conf. record.
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Post by le on Apr 16, 2018 9:44:14 GMT -5
Pitino would bring SC to a new level in addition a tremendous amount of PR would be generated.
1.Pitino 2.Becker 3.Beilein
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Post by hoopjunkie on Apr 16, 2018 9:54:12 GMT -5
All those who want Pitino....I'm judging you. Taking Pitino at the age of 65 when his moral reputation is in the 'shitter' and him going into kids homes and trying to tell their parents that 'this time it will be different'. What makes people think that Pitino wouldn't just be another Jimmy situation? He'd be in the twilight of his career with little chance of winning the NCAAs with our budget. On top of this, he'll be distracted with horses and NCAA legal battles. What is to motivate him to put his best foot forward for Siena? It won't be money. It won't be a national title. It would ONLY be redemption at best. Pitino is the riskiest hire of the bunch. And that's not even mentioning that Siena would officially lose any moral high ground that it ever claimed to have....as they would completely contradict everything said in Siena's official statement after Jimmy's dismissal. You really cant see how this guy would be 100% motivated to show his detractors he's about the GAME, and not about the MONEY? He's the one top 5 coach fired over this FBI stuff, which is NCAA taboo, but is it breaking the real law? A shoe company steering money to a HS kid and his family? Someone going to jail over that? lol FBI: Go do some real police work! You're wasting our money. You make the contract 100% in favor of Siena protecting the school. Early exit out of the contract? RP owes the school $1 million. Siena gets put on NCAA probation because of any of his actions? $2 million go to Siena. This guy has ALWAYS gone to teams/programs that were in the toilet and dragged them out of it. Providence, Knicks, Kentucky, Celtics and even Louisville to a degree with Crum sinking quickly. Let the guy change his public perception. Do we get something out of it? Absolutely!! This fan base deserves it. This fanbase needs a HR....BADLY. He's a GRAND SLAM at this level. And I got news for all the Mother Theresa's out there. THEY'RE ALL CROOKS. ALL OF THEM at the top. Roy Williams, Boeheim, Calipari, Self and even coach K is swimming in the dirty sneaker/recruiting pool. The best ones are the ones that close their eyes to it, and flat out deny, deny, deny.
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