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Post by gorvy on Apr 15, 2018 15:09:23 GMT -5
Becker would obviously be the ideal. He already recruits and succeeds recruiting all the places we want to. And he wins. I'm just skeptical of his interest and our ability to pony up. I agree on interest only going on what i read here, money his 16/17 salary was $275k so I don’t think we have an issue affording him...at least initially. He’s been pretty content at UVM .... 7 years. So maybe he’s not a leaper, who knows. Which is why I would rather beilein. 2 different programs had them winning more than ever before. Sign me up.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 15, 2018 15:17:31 GMT -5
I agree on interest only going on what i read here, money his 16/17 salary was $275k so I don’t think we have an issue affording him...at least initially. He’s been pretty content at UVM .... 7 years. So maybe he’s not a leaper, who knows. Which is why I would rather beilein. 2 different programs had them winning more than ever before. Sign me up. Not sure I follow .. he’s got a very small sampling and used D1 transfers dropping down at D 2 and other transfers at LeMoyne to his advantage. His ability to recruit at this level is an unknown. Think Becker’s 7 year D1 track record both recruiting and coaching trumps Beilein pretty handly. There’s an element of risk with Beilein that Becker mitigates. Season Team Overall Conference Standing Postseason Vermont (America East Conference) (2011–present) 2011–12 Vermont 24–12 13–3 2nd NCAA Second Round 2012–13 Vermont 21–12 11–5 2nd CBI First Round 2013–14 Vermont 22–11 15–1 1st NIT First Round 2014–15 Vermont 20–14 12–4 T–2nd CBI Semifinals 2015–16 Vermont 23–14 11–5 T–3rd CBI Semifinals 2016–17 Vermont 29–6 16–0 1st NCAA First Round 2017–18 Vermont 27–8 15–1 1st NIT First Round Vermont: 166–77 (.683) Took Becker the last 3 years to lose what Patsos did in 1 Lol !
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Post by gorvy on Apr 15, 2018 15:26:41 GMT -5
Which is why I would rather beilein. 2 different programs had them winning more than ever before. Sign me up. Not sure I follow Think about it this way.,, it is very likely that so far beilein is on the path to become a bcs head coach someday. Our opportunity puts him about halfway to that goal. That’s his benefit. He has already taken two programs that don’t have a great tradition of winning and won within a short period of time. In different areas no less for those hung up on recruiting connections. That’s our benefit. For all we know Becker is just needling his employer for a raise like patsos did to us, with no intention of leaving. Why else would he be at one employer for 20 years. I would only want him if his intention was to use this as a kick start to a bcs career or haha take us to the a10.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 15, 2018 15:28:23 GMT -5
Think about it this way.,, it is very likely that so far beilein is on the path to become a bcs head coach someday. Our opportunity puts him about halfway to that goal. That’s his benefit. He has already taken two programs that don’t have a great tradition of winning and won within a short period of time. In different areas no less for those hung up on recruiting connections. That’s our benefit. For all we know Becker is just needling his employer for a raise like patsos did to us, with no intention of leaving. Why else would he be at one employer for 20 years. I would only want him if his intention was to use this as a kick start to a bcs career or haha take us to the a10. Becker is the better hire. Look I’m ok with Beilein but Becker is a proven commodity. The names Becker and Patsos don’t belong in the same sentence. It took Becker 3 years to lose what Patsos did in 1. Nothing wrong Becker becoming our version Few or McKillop. Not everyone needs to be a power 5 climber. That said that model doesn’t scare me either..the stability argument for me doesn’t matter either way. The hiring process is all about fit and due diligence. If it’s deemed to be Beilein Caputo or Becker and the individual hired was evaluated as the best choice ...I’m good... IMO ... Looking at the three I like Becker but I’m not the one hiring. All 3 are solid candidates.
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Post by hoopsforever on Apr 15, 2018 15:41:20 GMT -5
Wow! Look at the enthusiasm on site now compared to a month ago! Siena spirit is back! When does the season start- tomorrow? The next few months will be very interesting! So..... I am rooting for Patrick, but any of the candidates work for me!
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Post by olddave on Apr 15, 2018 15:41:54 GMT -5
Think about it this way.,, it is very likely that so far beilein is on the path to become a bcs head coach someday. Our opportunity puts him about halfway to that goal. That’s his benefit. He has already taken two programs that don’t have a great tradition of winning and won within a short period of time. In different areas no less for those hung up on recruiting connections. That’s our benefit. For all we know Becker is just needling his employer for a raise like patsos did to us, with no intention of leaving. Why else would he be at one employer for 20 years. I would only want him if his intention was to use this as a kick start to a bcs career or haha take us to the a10. Sorry don’t buy it. Becker is the better hire. Look I’m ok with Beilein if Becker’s out but Becker is a proven commodity. The names Becker and Patsos don’t belong in the same sentence. It took Becker 3 years to lose what Patsos did in 1. Nothing wrong Becker becoming our version Few or McKillop. Not everyone needs to be a power 5 climber. That said that model doesn’t scare me either..the stability argument for me doesn’t matter either way. The hiring process is all about fit and due diligence. If it’s deemed to be Beilein and he’s was evaluated as the best choice I’m good... If you really put thought into it, as stated here, how many coaches actually retire on the up side. They all take the high paying jobs than 7,10 years later are irrelevant. A smart coach goes for the money where overall he outearns the guys who take the high end positions, and works well into retirement. Could be Becker.
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Post by clickclack on Apr 15, 2018 15:47:04 GMT -5
Becker would obviously be the ideal. He already recruits and succeeds recruiting all the places we want to. And he wins. I'm just skeptical of his interest and our ability to pony up. I agree on interest only going on what i read here, money his 16/17 salary was $275k so I don’t think we have an issue affording him...at least initially. He’s been pretty content at UVM .... 7 years. So maybe he’s not a leaper, who knows. Doing some digging online he turned down Duquesne last year and his base for this year was 300.
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Post by MTS on Apr 15, 2018 16:04:56 GMT -5
I agree on interest only going on what i read here, money his 16/17 salary was $275k so I don’t think we have an issue affording him...at least initially. He’s been pretty content at UVM .... 7 years. So maybe he’s not a leaper, who knows. Doing some digging online he turned down Duquesne last year and his base for this year was 300. Not surprising Duquesne along with Fordham are the two worst jobs in the A10. Siena is a plum mid-major job with the right coach.
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Post by clickclack on Apr 15, 2018 16:07:05 GMT -5
Doing some digging online he turned down Duquesne last year and his base for this year was 300. Not surprising Duquesne along with Fordham are the two worst jobs in the A10. Siena is a plum mid-major job with the right coach. Used to be... Jury is out now.
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Post by dmb88888 on Apr 15, 2018 16:14:33 GMT -5
Becker would obviously be the ideal. He already recruits and succeeds recruiting all the places we want to. And he wins. I'm just skeptical of his interest and our ability to pony up. I don't care about 'longevity'. That's not how this sport works. Actually, no, your response demonstrates just how close minded you are in terms of siena hoops. Sure, cite our last few years with JP. And throw in mitch's few years. Its actually comical, go ahead and find a college hoops program with our location AND demographics that continues to settle in a poor conference.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2018 16:21:59 GMT -5
Becker would obviously be the ideal. He already recruits and succeeds recruiting all the places we want to. And he wins. I'm just skeptical of his interest and our ability to pony up. I don't care about 'longevity'. That's not how this sport works. Actually, no, your response demonstrates just how close minded you are in terms of siena hoops. Sure, cite our last few years with JP. And throw in mitch's few years. Its actually comical, go ahead and find a college hoops program with our location AND demographics that continues to settle in a poor conference. What on earth is your point?
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Post by greenblood on Apr 15, 2018 16:39:12 GMT -5
Wow! Look at the enthusiasm on site now compared to a month ago! Siena spirit is back! When does the season start- tomorrow? The next few months will be very interesting! So..... I am rooting for Patrick, but any of the candidates work for me! Me too but not Pitino, and I do think Becker is justcshaking UVM for a raise.
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Post by billmurray on Apr 15, 2018 17:05:08 GMT -5
Set up the interviews, evaluate the options and make the call. This one is critical. One more mistake and it might be too difficult to recover. No pressure. ;-)
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Post by Papi on Apr 16, 2018 6:45:59 GMT -5
Looks like if it's not Pitino or Becker the majority will be unhappy with the hire. This should be an interesting week.
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 16, 2018 6:49:00 GMT -5
Looks like if it's not Pitino or Becker the majority will be unhappy with the hire. This should be an interesting week. I think the majority would be happy with Beilein.
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