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Post by bigsaintg on Nov 2, 2016 19:16:53 GMT -5
Let's bump this thread back up to the top. Jimmy can't close the deal on his main targets; Bad recruiting or foul play? Tell us what you think. Except he closed the deal on his top recruit Prince Oduro. But don't let that fact interfere with your narrative. Not good enough in a year when 4 senior starters are leaving and you jut lost a top reserve guard who would have started next year. Need to close deal with multiple top kids.
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Post by Sienafan on Nov 2, 2016 19:26:50 GMT -5
Except he closed the deal on his top recruit Prince Oduro. But don't let that fact interfere with your narrative. Not good enough in a year when 4 senior starters are leaving and you jut lost a top reserve guard who would have started next year. Need to close deal with multiple top kids. You're conclusion is a bit premature. The recruiting period for this season isn't even close to finished yet..you do know that right? If he gets another Clareth or two in February like he did last year you're going to be eating crow.
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Post by bigsaintg on Nov 2, 2016 19:31:35 GMT -5
Not good enough in a year when 4 senior starters are leaving and you jut lost a top reserve guard who would have started next year. Need to close deal with multiple top kids. You're conclusion is a bit premature. The recruiting period for this season isn't even close to finished yet..you do know that right? If he gets another Clareth or two in February like he did last year you're going to be eating crow. Counselor - it's a point in time assessment up to now. When things change, if they change, we can re-evaluate at that time. Go cuddle with MTS and tell each other how great Jimmy is.
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Post by Sienafan on Nov 2, 2016 20:01:16 GMT -5
You're conclusion is a bit premature. The recruiting period for this season isn't even close to finished yet..you do know that right? If he gets another Clareth or two in February like he did last year you're going to be eating crow. Counselor - it's a point in time assessment up to now. When things change, if they change, we can re-evaluate at that time. Go cuddle with MTS and tell each other how great Jimmy is. My point in time assessment is that he's landed 1 of his 3 top targets in the early period - the one he faced the toughest recruiting battle for. I don't see that as bad recruiting. I'm not sure which former Siena coaches landed every recruit they pursued that you are comparing him to. You guys are all bi-polar. You were down on him last season too - until he landed Nico. Then suddenly Patsos was the man - for the time being anyway.
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Post by bigsaintg on Nov 2, 2016 20:07:44 GMT -5
Counselor - it's a point in time assessment up to now. When things change, if they change, we can re-evaluate at that time. Go cuddle with MTS and tell each other how great Jimmy is. My point in time assessment is that he's landed 1 of his 3 top targets in the early period - the one he faced the toughest recruiting battle for. I don't see that as bad recruiting. I'm not sure which former Siena coaches landed every recruit they pursued that you are comparing him to. You guys are all bi-polar. You were down on him last season too - until he landed Nico. Then suddenly Patsos was the man - for the time being anyway. Morsel was his top target and Nolan was the top guard prospect until he vomited to UTC. Jahir Williams was a top target too but he committed early to Willam and Mary. 1 for 5 or 6. Desrosiers was there too but he went another way and we didn't make finals for Walter White
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Post by Sienafan on Nov 2, 2016 20:58:02 GMT -5
My point in time assessment is that he's landed 1 of his 3 top targets in the early period - the one he faced the toughest recruiting battle for. I don't see that as bad recruiting. I'm not sure which former Siena coaches landed every recruit they pursued that you are comparing him to. You guys are all bi-polar. You were down on him last season too - until he landed Nico. Then suddenly Patsos was the man - for the time being anyway. Morsel was his top target and Nolan was the top guard prospect until he vomited to UTC. Jahir Williams was a top target too but he committed early to Willam and Mary. 1 for 5 or 6. Desrosiers was there too but he went another way and we didn't make finals for Walter White Morsell went high major. You're seriously holding that against Patsos? Might as well ding him for missing on Kevin Huerter too in that case. Williams, Derosiers, and White were not top targets.
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Post by bigsaintg on Nov 2, 2016 21:01:10 GMT -5
Morsel was his top target and Nolan was the top guard prospect until he vomited to UTC. Jahir Williams was a top target too but he committed early to Willam and Mary. 1 for 5 or 6. Desrosiers was there too but he went another way and we didn't make finals for Walter White Morsell went high major. You're seriously holding that against Patsos? Might as well ding him for missing on Kevin Huerter too in that case. Williams, Derosiers, and White were not top targets. Don't blame him for Morsell and you say they weren't top targets - ok
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Post by marshotel on Nov 2, 2016 21:04:24 GMT -5
Let's bump this thread back up to the top. Jimmy can't close the deal on his main targets; Bad recruiting or foul play? Tell us what you think. Except he closed the deal on his top recruit Prince Oduro. But don't let that fact interfere with your narrative. I think JP missed on more than one main recruit. But hey we can spin this either way, half full/half empty. Whatever. Yea JP got the purple one and that's great but we need more. True, there's time left to pull it out. But when you spend time and resources on main targets and fail it hurts. Could be a zillion reasons why we lost Patella and it could have nothing to do with JP, who knows. At least the conversation is on the right thread now.
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Post by Sienafan on Nov 2, 2016 21:15:32 GMT -5
Morsell went high major. You're seriously holding that against Patsos? Might as well ding him for missing on Kevin Huerter too in that case. Williams, Derosiers, and White were not top targets. Don't blame him for Morsell and you say they weren't top targets - ok By all means list Morsell. But then be consistent and count K. Huerter as a missed top target in your tally too. After all, no way Siena should be losing recruits to Kansas State and Maryland, right?
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Post by knicksaint on Nov 2, 2016 22:12:15 GMT -5
Once Morsell blew up in the Spring, jimmy's top targets were Oduro, Terry Nolan and Jake Keller. Patella moved up only after Nolan committed to Chattanooga. By the way, Chattanooga Hausas good or better an NCAA tourney history than Siena and is rated higher than Siena in both mid-major polls that have been discussed on this board. While not getting Patella is disappointing at this point, let's re-evaluate when we see who is ultimately signed. I would hope that they are looking seriously at Jairus Stevens of Cheshire Academy, whose dad was the second leading scorer in Iowa State history.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 2, 2016 23:05:43 GMT -5
I wonder who contacted who...did Patella contact Vermont or did Vermont contract Patella....Patella just spent the past year in school in Vermont...I wonder how many games he went to... They offered him Oct 4th. That's real late.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 2, 2016 23:09:55 GMT -5
If we re doing it by percentages, take a look at Iona's recruiting board. They have 20 offers out this year, and 30 out for next year. Should we do it like that, or not?
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Nov 2, 2016 23:33:43 GMT -5
I think it depends on whether you judge recruiting based on every player you recruit/offer, or based on the players you end up with.
Personally, I think he's had 2 successful recruiting classes out of 3, and this year's freshman class looks good in theory but their value to me is still TBD. To me, that's successful despite the fact that there's obviously been a few questionable signings along the way.
In no way would I judge this next recruiting class yet, but I'm not one to live and die by every swing and miss on the recruiting trail.
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Post by poopsickle on Nov 3, 2016 0:49:06 GMT -5
I would hope that they are looking seriously at Jairus Stevens of Cheshire Academy, whose dad was the second leading scorer in Iowa State history. I liked what I saw on tape. Not overly athletic but has some bounce. Looks like a great shooter, 40% from 3 and 80% FT last year.
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Post by Quackman on Nov 3, 2016 8:29:51 GMT -5
I think it depends on whether you judge recruiting based on every player you recruit/offer, or based on the players you end up with. Personally, I think he's had 2 successful recruiting classes out of 3, and this year's freshman class looks good in theory but their value to me is still TBD. To me, that's successful despite the fact that there's obviously been a few questionable signings along the way. In no way would I judge this next recruiting class yet, but I'm not one to live and die by every swing and miss on the recruiting trail. Exactly. Too much attention spent on something so fluid in nature.
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