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Post by hoopjunkie on Jun 17, 2016 3:08:50 GMT -5
Not sure, but there's a 30 day wait for some reason that starts Monday.
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Post by Tony on Jun 17, 2016 4:39:35 GMT -5
Not sure, but there's a 30 day wait for some reason that starts Monday. It was only the AD's that approved change- it's not "official' till MAAC presidents vote it in ( which is expected to happen) The two early december MAAC conference games will now be gone-- a good thing in my opinion. Apparently at least 6 MAAC teams wanted this change- which again isnt bad, just making it happen this year is asinine
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Post by OneIndian on Jun 17, 2016 7:25:15 GMT -5
I'm curious to see how this is going to be implemented and how it's going to be determined who Is dropped from your schedule each yr.
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Post by knicksaint on Jun 17, 2016 9:53:43 GMT -5
An article in the Buffalo News suggested that the top two teams (projected) would only play the bottom two teams (projected) once. That would seem to suggest that teams 3 and 4 would only play teams 8 and 9 once, but it is not that simple since there is an odd number of teams.
The next issue will be the tiebreaker. If two teams tie for third, for example and played each other only once, does the winner get the third seed because it won a home game?
This whole thing does not appear to be well thought out - wouldn't it be simpler for SPC to go D2? :-)
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Post by OneIndian on Jun 17, 2016 10:21:05 GMT -5
An article in the Buffalo News suggested that the top two teams (projected) would only play the bottom two teams (projected) once. That would seem to suggest that teams 3 and 4 would only play teams 8 and 9 once, but it is not that simple since there is an odd number of teams. The next issue will be the tiebreaker. If two teams tie for third, for example and played each other only once, does the winner get the third seed because it won a home game? This whole thing does not appear to be well thought out - wouldn't it be simpler for SPC to go D2? :-) I would like to see the MAAC add a team like the caliber of a Hofstra and go 2 divisions playing teams in the opposite division once.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jun 17, 2016 10:31:11 GMT -5
An article in the Buffalo News suggested that the top two teams (projected) would only play the bottom two teams (projected) once. That would seem to suggest that teams 3 and 4 would only play teams 8 and 9 once, but it is not that simple since there is an odd number of teams. The next issue will be the tiebreaker. If two teams tie for third, for example and played each other only once, does the winner get the third seed because it won a home game? This whole thing does not appear to be well thought out - wouldn't it be simpler for SPC to go D2? :-) So, we'd lose a home/away game with Quinnipiac and Rider.
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Post by saintsandeagles on Jun 17, 2016 10:34:11 GMT -5
An article in the Buffalo News suggested that the top two teams (projected) would only play the bottom two teams (projected) once. That would seem to suggest that teams 3 and 4 would only play teams 8 and 9 once, but it is not that simple since there is an odd number of teams. The next issue will be the tiebreaker. If two teams tie for third, for example and played each other only once, does the winner get the third seed because it won a home game? This whole thing does not appear to be well thought out - wouldn't it be simpler for SPC to go D2? :-) So, we'd lose a home/away game with Quinnipiac and Rider. Projected seems to imply it's based on preseason rankings. Though those don't usually come out until well after the schedules are set.
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Post by MTS on Jun 17, 2016 11:37:13 GMT -5
The MAAC really blew it by deciding to implement the 18 game schedule this year. Way too short notice. Now Siena can't fill out their schedule until July 20th - are you kidding me? I wonder if the two games will be replaced at all? In other news Bucknell released their schedule today and they will visit the TUC on Saturday, December 17th. www.bucknellbison.com/SportSelect.dbml?SPSID=810386&SPID=137628&DB_OEM_ID=32100&Q_SEASON=2016Edit: Now it might not even happen this year which is the right call IMO: At this point, at this moment, after talking with Ensor tonight and several other folks, I'm not sure how 18 gets done for 2016-17. 2 retweets 1 like Josh Newman @joshua_Newman 16h16 hours ago
There will be conference call with the MAAC presidents in the near-future, and by mid-July, a resolution is expected one way or the other. 2 retweets 0 likes Josh Newman @joshua_Newman 16h16 hours ago
Do the math. The ADs voted 6-5 in favor earlier this month. With that, it is hard to see where a two-thirds majority is coming from. 2 retweets 1 like Josh Newman @joshua_Newman 16h16 hours ago
This 18-game scheduling proposal is now in the hands of the MAAC Council of Presidents. When they vote, it needs to be two-thirds majority. 4 retweets 1 like Josh Newman @joshua_Newman 16h16 hours ago
Despite that vote, which was needed to be unanimous, it still sounded like this was might get done this week, but it isn't going to. 1 retweet 0 likes Josh Newman @joshua_Newman 16h16 hours ago
While the momentum was there to go to 18 right away, there were roadblocks, mainly a 6-5 ADs vote in favor of 2016-17 at league meetings. Josh Newman @joshua_Newman 16h16 hours ago
SUMMATION: 18 MAAC games is the future move, but trying to ram it through right now has brought issues and division. Don't count on it now.
This is obviously why they won't let anyone schedule games for a month. Table it until 17-18. You'd think these people would have more common sense. They work more like congress!
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Post by hoopjunkie on Jun 17, 2016 11:54:49 GMT -5
So, we'd lose a home/away game with Quinnipiac and Rider. Projected seems to imply it's based on preseason rankings. Though those don't usually come out until well after the schedules are set. Then lets hope we don't have to travel to Buffalo for only one game, and/or lose one of the Marist games.
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Post by Tony on Jun 17, 2016 16:20:54 GMT -5
Good hope this whole thing happens next year like it should--looks like Josh Newman jumped the gun on this story
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Post by gorvy on Jun 17, 2016 18:03:38 GMT -5
So, we'd lose a home/away game with Quinnipiac and Rider. Projected seems to imply it's based on preseason rankings. Though those don't usually come out until well after the schedules are set. Good lord even the Maac wouldn't do it on preseason rankings. Imagine the carnage-- we don't even trust them to pick the all Maac team
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Post by hockeyguy on Jun 18, 2016 4:36:34 GMT -5
An article in the Buffalo News suggested that the top two teams (projected) would only play the bottom two teams (projected) once. That would seem to suggest that teams 3 and 4 would only play teams 8 and 9 once, but it is not that simple since there is an odd number of teams. The next issue will be the tiebreaker. If two teams tie for third, for example and played each other only once, does the winner get the third seed because it won a home game? This whole thing does not appear to be well thought out - wouldn't it be simpler for SPC to go D2? :-) KS, I had the same thought re: SPU but I don't think that will happen ("founding MAAC member", Ensor's alma mater), so how about Rider instead? Even better, lop off the western boys as well and add Hofstra and invite LaSalle back. But then, that might be real progress.
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Post by hooligan on Jun 18, 2016 5:58:52 GMT -5
An article in the Buffalo News suggested that the top two teams (projected) would only play the bottom two teams (projected) once. That would seem to suggest that teams 3 and 4 would only play teams 8 and 9 once, but it is not that simple since there is an odd number of teams. The next issue will be the tiebreaker. If two teams tie for third, for example and played each other only once, does the winner get the third seed because it won a home game? This whole thing does not appear to be well thought out - wouldn't it be simpler for SPC to go D2? :-) KS, I had the same thought re: SPU but I don't think that will happen ("founding MAAC member", Ensor's alma mater), so how about Rider instead? Even better, lop off the western boys as well and add Hofstra and invite LaSalle back. But then, that might be real progress. I don't see lasalle (or Fordham) leaving the A10. Unless they are chucked out or crazy realignment happens we need to focus on a school like Hofstra
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Post by hockeyguy on Jun 18, 2016 7:28:16 GMT -5
KS, I had the same thought re: SPU but I don't think that will happen ("founding MAAC member", Ensor's alma mater), so how about Rider instead? Even better, lop off the western boys as well and add Hofstra and invite LaSalle back. But then, that might be real progress. I don't see lasalle (or Fordham) leaving the A10. Unless they are chucked out or crazy realignment happens we need to focus on a school like Hofstra Hooligan, perhaps LaSalle should consider it (Fordham would be a Rider replacement at best in my opinion). In the past 15 years (as far as their website goes back 2001-2002) LaSalle's basketball team has achieved the following: Zero, none, nada A-10 championships, 5 winning seasons (2 20+ win seasons) 10 losing seasons (3 20+ loss seasons), 1 NIT first round appearance, 1 NCAA (sweet 16) appearance, overall win percentage 47.3%. Last year they were 4-14 in conference, 8-10 the year before and 7-9 the year before that (who was the coach, Mitch?) You are probably right they most likely would never leave even though they have struggled in the A-10 and could be a top tier MAAC team every year (which is also why the Siena dreamers should consider switching up whatever they have been smoking when it comes to the A-10. "They took Davidson not us, it is all Mitch's fault.")
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Post by hooligan on Jun 18, 2016 7:50:31 GMT -5
I don't see lasalle (or Fordham) leaving the A10. Unless they are chucked out or crazy realignment happens we need to focus on a school like Hofstra Hooligan, perhaps LaSalle should consider it (Fordham would be a Rider replacement at best in my opinion). In the past 15 years (as far as their website goes back 2001-2002) LaSalle's basketball team has achieved the following: Zero, none, nada A-10 championships, 5 winning seasons (2 20+ win seasons) 10 losing seasons (3 20+ loss seasons), 1 NIT first round appearance, 1 NCAA (sweet 16) appearance, overall win percentage 47.3%. Last year they were 4-14 in conference, 8-10 the year before and 7-9 the year before that (who was the coach, Mitch?) You are probably right they most likely would never leave even though they have struggled in the A-10 and could be a top tier MAAC team every year (which is also why the Siena dreamers should consider switching up whatever they have been smoking when it comes to the A-10. "They took Davidson not us, it is all Mitch's fault.") Last time I checked (which was a couple of years ago) each A10 team pulls down 300k-400k per year from their tv contract. I don't think they would leave that kind of money without being tossed out. If they go to the maac they get a smaller payment from our tv deal AND if they achieve ncaa success their winnings are split amongst all the maac teams. Not sure how the A10 splits up tourney winnings but if it's the same as the maac the a10 can get 2-5 teams into the tourney every year. I would love lasalle or Fordham to come tot he maac. I just don't see it unless they get moved out.
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