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Post by Tony on Dec 30, 2013 4:49:24 GMT -5
What I have been told about mid-year additions is that a college that has all 13 scholarships given out on the first day of the fall semester cannot add a scholarship player mid-year even if one or more scholarship players transfer after the first semester. Therefore, if Hopper or anyone else were to leave, we could not replace anyone who departed. OK… so this “release” is just a formality. So If I’m getting this right while we can’t add a mid-season transfer it does open up a ship for next year . So Siena can officially offer a Sterling Taplin or whoever and of course Hopper is free to stay at Siena this year on free ride while he looks for a better situation – looks to me like that’s a win- win situation for all concerned
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 30, 2013 4:59:20 GMT -5
So the Taplin offer has become official because Hopper has agreed to leave next year...publicly. Our interest in Taplin has been documented, but since we had no seniors, I guess we weren't allowed to offer any scholarships til now.
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Post by Tony on Dec 30, 2013 5:04:49 GMT -5
So the Taplin offer has become official because Hopper has agreed to leave next year...publicly. Our interest in Taplin has been documented, but since we had no seniors, I guess we weren't allowed to offer any scholarships til now. Certainly looks that way junkie
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 6:12:37 GMT -5
Funny - it took 7 pages for everyone to get back on the same page.
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Post by bigsaintg on Dec 30, 2013 8:54:51 GMT -5
The dorms are still closed so maybe he can't get his stuff. If left to his own devices he'll hit one if those buffet places and blow up like a recently released conivict to a visit to Nite Moves. This way he gets exercise and stays in shape for suitors
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 11:03:32 GMT -5
The dorms are still closed so maybe he can't get his stuff. If left to his own devices he'll hit one if those buffet places and blow up like a recently released conivict to a visit to Nite Moves. This way he gets exercise and stays in shape for suitors Cheap shot - hope that makes you feel better somehow!
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Post by bigsaintg on Dec 30, 2013 11:10:41 GMT -5
MP - you served it up. No cheap shot
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 30, 2013 12:12:30 GMT -5
Lavon plays the 3/4 and that is G/F the game has evolved time for you to catch up LOL, pretty sure 3/4 is the SF/PF, so yes I agree with you that's where Lavon has played this year. What he has never played on this team is the 2 guard. Never. Not for one minute. As much as that hurts your pro prospectus for him, it's the obvious truth to anyone that's not related to him, and has seen a majority of this years games. That does not hurt me at all...Fact is the 2 and 3 are guards in a Patsos system.. I dont expect you to understand.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 12:43:46 GMT -5
Since I am not Pat Riley can someone explain to me what PPC means by insisting that Siena plays a 3 or 4 guard offense. In its simplest form to me that would mean the team would run its offense for the most part on the perimeter. However, the numbers do not support that theory. Looking at teams that truly run 3 or 4 guard offenses these are the numbers of three teams compared to Siena.
Iona 650 shots taken with 284 being from 3pt (44%) Fordham 768 fgs 276 were 3pt fgs (37%) Villanova 694 fgs 325 were 3pt fgs (47%) Siena 712 fgs 163 were 3pt fgs (22%)
What am I missing ? the numbers just do not support that Siena runs a 3 or 4 guard offense.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 30, 2013 12:57:32 GMT -5
Since I am not Pat Riley can someone explain to me what PPC means by insisting that Siena plays a 3 or 4 guard offense. In its simplest form to me that would mean the team would run its offense for the most part on the perimeter. However, the numbers do not support that theory. Looking at teams that truly run 3 or 4 guard offenses these are the numbers of three teams compared to Siena. Iona 650 shots taken with 284 being from 3pt (44%) Fordham 768 fgs 276 were 3pt fgs (37%) Villanova 694 fgs 325 were 3pt fgs (47%) Siena 712 fgs 163 were 3pt fgs (22%) What am I missing ? the numbers just do not support that Siena runs a 3 or 4 guard offense. Numbers wont help you here just like size wont...its the skill set that decides your position.. just because you are bigger does not mean you are slower...just because you are small does not mean you are a ballhandler or shooter....if you do not have the capacity to watch a game and know what the team is running then just ask the coach..
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 13:13:33 GMT -5
PPC..not talking about skill set at all. The question is the position and roles the players are playing. In my opinion Lavon is not playing the role of a guard. And numbers do play a role. Lavon's numbers and play dictate he is playing the role of a forward. in 12 games he averages less than 1 steal/assist per game and only taken 5 3pt attempts. Also I am willing to bet over 90% of his points are in the lane. Not a knock at all but when you look at teams like I mentioned those numbers are much higher for those players playing a true 3-4 guard offense. I know you believe Lavon has the skill set of a guard and listed on the team website as a G/F, but I am just going on what the stats suggest and what I see on the court. just my opinion, which are what message boards are about.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 30, 2013 13:23:15 GMT -5
Well you can have your opinion. ..the facts are Lavon was recruited as a guard, is listed as a G/F and Patsos told us he runs a 4 guard offense...the numbers are not the answer the above facts are...most of his points have not been around the rim...his midrange game has come alive and he has made 3 of his 5 3pt attempts while his FT percentage is improving. ..I will take what Patsos says, what I see in practice, and how the team plays in games over your opinion. ..but you are welcomed to believe what you want
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Post by bigsaintg on Dec 30, 2013 13:31:08 GMT -5
It's not about logic it's about her dream of her kid playing in the League
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Post by Deleted on Dec 30, 2013 13:31:31 GMT -5
OK PPC you win again. you are correct and I am completely wrong. I am just one of those crazy fans that goes on what the stats dictate and what is actually happening on the court and not what is listed on a website 4 months ago or what was promised during recruiting.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 30, 2013 13:47:17 GMT -5
She's the only person out here that thinks her son is a guard, and not a forward. The distinction is very, very important to her. The term "forward" is an insult to Lavons "skill set." I told her in October her son was a stretch 4 for this team, and you would have though I called him a bum! lol He plays both forward spots for Siena. Hasn't played one minute at the off guard. She's under the impression that because Lavon runs off screens in a motion offense, we play 3 or 4 guards at once (obviously depending who's on the floor with her son.....if its Wright, White, Poole, Long and Silas, we are running a 4 guard offense Whether she wants to accecpt that fact or not, really doesn't matter to me. People see, believe what they want to. Parents are never objective when it comes to evaluating their own children. Lavon is a very good player. I'm glad he's here. He will will help us win a lot of games from the forward position
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