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Post by Tony on Mar 28, 2013 17:17:17 GMT -5
Tony, I'm sure you would agree St. Peter's is the toughest league school to recruit to. I kind of wish John Dunne was in Patsos position. I think our search would be over if that was the case. No-- dont agree at all if you have a pulse you can get into SPC..
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Post by gorvy on Mar 28, 2013 17:42:01 GMT -5
Explain to me why then. He took over a team that had just went to 2 NCAA's , he's gone to the NIT, he has one year as an assistant in the Patriot, 3 years assistant in the NEC, 3 years head coach in the NEC. I want Siena to move to the highest possible level, I don't think he's the guy to do it. I have rational reasons, all you can say is I'm out of my mind? I think your reasons are rational, (especially since I feel the same way lol). At this point all I can do is hope the admin has it all under control and Toole leads us into the upper echelons of the A10 someday. The Robert Morris board thinks we could be the next VCU.
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Post by mrsiena on Mar 28, 2013 18:17:03 GMT -5
I was referring to getting basketball players, not academic students.
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Post by section2 on Mar 28, 2013 18:33:35 GMT -5
I agree. He must have some connection to Patsos. Before you make accusations, read the board. I clearly stated I wouldn't want ANY of the 3 supposed finalists.
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Post by section2 on Mar 28, 2013 18:39:17 GMT -5
Explain to me why then. He took over a team that had just went to 2 NCAA's , he's gone to the NIT, he has one year as an assistant in the Patriot, 3 years assistant in the NEC, 3 years head coach in the NEC. I want Siena to move to the highest possible level, I don't think he's the guy to do it. I have rational reasons, all you can say is I'm out of my mind? I think your reasons are rational, (especially since I feel the same way lol). At this point all I can do is hope the admin has it all under control and Toole leads us into the upper echelons of the A10 someday. The Robert Morris board thinks we could be the next VCU. Hey, I hope any coach Siena hires does a great job. I can actually give reasons for who I prefer and I've kept the same list all year. Some of these posters grab every new name thrown out, run with it as their own, and "smite" me for disagreeing. Oh, well, it would be pretty boring if we all agreed all the time.
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Post by grascandunk on Mar 28, 2013 20:00:56 GMT -5
Explain to me why then. He took over a team that had just went to 2 NCAA's , he's gone to the NIT, he has one year as an assistant in the Patriot, 3 years assistant in the NEC, 3 years head coach in the NEC. I want Siena to move to the highest possible level, I don't think he's the guy to do it. I have rational reasons, all you can say is I'm out of my mind? He was a big part of Robert Morris' success prior to taking over as head coach. He then (in his first head coaching job ever) took over the helm and continued to build a strong program (a feat we've ALL seen should not be taken for granted), and showed steady linear improvement each year, with a victory over Kentucky in a huge national tournament as the punctuation mark on such a successful run. A coach this young, who's shown nothing but success every step of the way, who runs a high paced offense we've all thirsted for these past 3 years, and has a well established foothold in recruiting grounds that have a history of serving as a pipeline for great Siena players. I'm not saying he's the absolute best candidate. But to emphatically state you'd be unhappy with him as a choice is lunacy given our current position. We're not basketball royalty, and he's a great fit regardless of your perspective.
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Post by knicksaint on Mar 28, 2013 20:45:15 GMT -5
+1000
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Post by CellarRat on Mar 28, 2013 20:47:09 GMT -5
I think your reasons are rational, (especially since I feel the same way lol). At this point all I can do is hope the admin has it all under control and Toole leads us into the upper echelons of the A10 someday. The Robert Morris board thinks we could be the next VCU. Hey, I hope any coach Siena hires does a great job. I can actually give reasons for who I prefer and I've kept the same list all year. Some of these posters grab every new name thrown out, run with it as their own, and "smite" me for disagreeing. Oh, well, it would be pretty boring if we all agreed all the time. If people didn't disagree we would all learn a lot less and it would be boring, I agree. I personally want youth, brains, discipline and passion. I think Toole has it. But I still gave you a plus one.
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Post by lmnop22 on Mar 28, 2013 21:51:34 GMT -5
Out of an actual candidate list I don't see how Siena could have done much better? I really don't know who some people really thought we were going to get? I think some people think Rick Pitino is going to quit Louisville to come to Loudonville because he has a house in Saratoga....that's an extreme, but I I think the admin has done a good job putting together a solid candidate pool who seem interested in the position and from here you can only hope the decision they make works good in the next 4 years....not EVERY coach who people had on their 20 person list was interested in the Siena position....not the end all job
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Post by Sienafan on Mar 28, 2013 21:56:56 GMT -5
Explain to me why then. He took over a team that had just went to 2 NCAA's , he's gone to the NIT, he has one year as an assistant in the Patriot, 3 years assistant in the NEC, 3 years head coach in the NEC. I want Siena to move to the highest possible level, I don't think he's the guy to do it. I have rational reasons, all you can say is I'm out of my mind? He took a team that went to 2 NCAA tourneys and then lost a lot to graduation. While rebuilding, he never slipped below 18 wins and won over 20 the next two seasons. Did I mention he's only 32? How many div. 1 head coaches have done even that much by his age? He hasn't even reached his prime yet. Do you think he'll get even better or worse the next 10 years?
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Post by section2 on Mar 28, 2013 22:16:28 GMT -5
Rebuilding? That's your perspective. Mine is that an NEC team coming off 2 NCAA's has a distinct recruiting advantage and isn't rebuilding, they are reloading, which every college has to do. LIU just went to 2, changed coaches ,and went to their 3rd straight, so is Jack Perri a basketball genius now? Toole hasn't "built" anything and I don't believe he's the guy to build Siena into an A-10 team.
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Post by section2 on Mar 28, 2013 22:30:16 GMT -5
Out of an actual candidate list I don't see how Siena could have done much better? I really don't know who some people really thought we were going to get? I think some people think Rick Pitino is going to quit Louisville to come to Loudonville because he has a house in Saratoga....that's an extreme, but I I think the admin has done a good job putting together a solid candidate pool who seem interested in the position and from here you can only hope the decision they make works good in the next 4 years....not EVERY coach who people had on their 20 person list was interested in the Siena position....not the end all job I'm curious how you know who was interested in the job? Just because Darg didn't interview them doesn't mean they weren't interested.
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Post by lmnop22 on Mar 28, 2013 22:37:31 GMT -5
I don't think someone like Paulsen was ever interested in coming to a place like Siena...do I know it for sure?? No absolutely not and I have no insider information, but the sign of him signing a contract extension, just like Shaka Smart makes me think that he wasn't interested and I am sure he knew the job was open....that is just one example...just like I said in the post I don't think there could be a better 3 candidates for Siena for the type of program Siena actually is and is going to be....I think Toole is a great upcoming coach who "can" win at Siena...I think Patsos is very underrated and he turned around a HORRIBLE Loyola program, had them in the thick of things during Siena's rain and won a title and 20 games since...I think he "can" win at Siena....Rhoades has been linked to other good jobs and if he was in line to get the VCU job if Shaka left I think he would be just fine at Siena and "can" win....I don't think anyone is a shoe in to win other than obvious elite coaches
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Post by section2 on Mar 28, 2013 23:23:30 GMT -5
Ok, now you came up with 1 name you're pretty sure wasn't interested. That sounds nothing like your original post. If you think the 3 finalists are good, that's great, I can respect your opinion. But your statement about our candidates not being interested shouldn't have been made. None of us knows who applied for the job.
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Post by Sienafan on Mar 29, 2013 10:31:19 GMT -5
Rebuilding? That's your perspective. Mine is that an NEC team coming off 2 NCAA's has a distinct recruiting advantage and isn't rebuilding, they are reloading, which every college has to do. LIU just went to 2, changed coaches ,and went to their 3rd straight, so is Jack Perri a basketball genius now? Toole hasn't "built" anything and I don't believe he's the guy to build Siena into an A-10 team. And I don't believe that Patsos is the person to build Siena into an A-10 team. It took him 8 seasons to build Loyola into a credible MAAC team. We don't have that kind of time. Plus the dude is a lunatic. I can never forget the Stephen Curry debacle. I guarantee you that Loyola drops like a stone next season in the Patriot without all the transfers he used to get them on top. They were a one-hit wonder.
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