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Post by sienadan on Mar 28, 2013 9:32:58 GMT -5
The irony is the folks here bashing Patsos will be eating from his hand after the first time they get 5 minutes with him. The guy will be dynamic at Siena - on the court, recruiting, boosters, school officials, fans, local businesses, media, players. The "next level" is going to require a significant influx of funds into the athletic department - Patsos will deliver in that area, which is more important than anything else - without the dollars, there is no move up. And without the dollars going forward there is no ability to sustain consistency at the next level. Pitino - fantastic young coach - but he will bring a couple of low-life transfers with him, put together a .500 season next year, look like a hero and he will be the head coach at Rutgers or Seton Hall this time next season. Rhoades - as someone alluded to - a lot of similar qualities we saw with our previous head coach, though he is quite a bit younger. He has never run a D-I program and has never had to be a rainmaker, especially at the level of what Siena needs right now. Toole - great young coach that I expect to sign a $300k+ per year contract at RMU shortly. RMU isn't going to let him go - new baby at home, big bump in pay, guarantees some serious stability. Would have been great if he had same resume 3 years ago when Fran left. I don't even think this is a competition. Take the names away - if you saw a candidate with the following resume, you'd sign him sight unseen: Decade as D-I head coach Built a mid-major from the worst program in the country into a conference champ Program has consistently competed at the top of the league Current and former players rave about him Players graduate School admin loves him Second to none with boosters, media, fans, players Exceptional fundraising capabilities Views Siena as a destination job www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/14/jimmy-patsos-passion-way-with-people-leads-to-loyo/?page=all#pagebreak
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Post by sienadan on Mar 28, 2013 9:38:43 GMT -5
Toole on campus today. I really think he will just get a bigger payday out of RMU - RMU has been very vocal about keeping him. Again, D'Arg will have a hard time screwing this up with the candidates we've heard. Clearly, I like Patsos - but this is a strong pool.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 9:44:07 GMT -5
We are going to get Patsos by process of elimination. He will simply be the last man standing.
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Post by sienasaint3 on Mar 28, 2013 9:46:42 GMT -5
Toole is on campus interviewing today per Singelais.
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Post by MTS on Mar 28, 2013 10:02:00 GMT -5
Toole is on campus interviewing today per Singelais. We should see something on the news tonight as well I'm sure the cameras are there. Soup thinks RMU will make a big run to retain Toole and they may but Siena is very attractive and if the price is right I think Andy will be a Siena Saint!!!
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Post by Tony on Mar 28, 2013 10:06:59 GMT -5
I'm not sure RMU would go to 300K what is he making now 150K. And patsos and Rhodes will both cost Patsos makes 290+ I like all the candiates ( very good pool) but of those left Toole is my clear choice
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Mar 28, 2013 10:10:08 GMT -5
I'm not sure RMU would go to 300K what is he making now 150K. And patsos and Rhodes will both cost Patsos makes 290+ I like all the candiates ( very good pool) but of those left Toole is my clear choice Agreed. Time for Siena to re-Toole!
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 28, 2013 10:21:15 GMT -5
The irony is the folks here bashing Patsos will be eating from his hand after the first time they get 5 minutes with him. The guy will be dynamic at Siena - on the court, recruiting, boosters, school officials, fans, local businesses, media, players. The "next level" is going to require a significant influx of funds into the athletic department - Patsos will deliver in that area, which is more important than anything else - without the dollars, there is no move up. And without the dollars going forward there is no ability to sustain consistency at the next level. Pitino - fantastic young coach - but he will bring a couple of low-life transfers with him, put together a .500 season next year, look like a hero and he will be the head coach at Rutgers or Seton Hall this time next season. Rhoades - as someone alluded to - a lot of similar qualities we saw with our previous head coach, though he is quite a bit younger. He has never run a D-I program and has never had to be a rainmaker, especially at the level of what Siena needs right now. Toole - great young coach that I expect to sign a $300k+ per year contract at RMU shortly. RMU isn't going to let him go - new baby at home, big bump in pay, guarantees some serious stability. Would have been great if he had same resume 3 years ago when Fran left. I don't even think this is a competition. Take the names away - if you saw a candidate with the following resume, you'd sign him sight unseen: Decade as D-I head coach Built a mid-major from the worst program in the country into a conference champ Program has consistently competed at the top of the league Current and former players rave about him Players graduate School admin loves him Second to none with boosters, media, fans, players Exceptional fundraising capabilities Views Siena as a destination job www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/14/jimmy-patsos-passion-way-with-people-leads-to-loyo/?page=all#pagebreakYup, does everything but win anything that counts. No thanks.
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Post by sienadan on Mar 28, 2013 10:38:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure RMU would go to 300K what is he making now 150K. And patsos and Rhodes will both cost Patsos makes 290+ I like all the candiates ( very good pool) but of those left Toole is my clear choice I think they would and they are talking a big game - Rice made $275k his last year, I think.
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Post by sienadan on Mar 28, 2013 11:04:59 GMT -5
The irony is the folks here bashing Patsos will be eating from his hand after the first time they get 5 minutes with him. The guy will be dynamic at Siena - on the court, recruiting, boosters, school officials, fans, local businesses, media, players. The "next level" is going to require a significant influx of funds into the athletic department - Patsos will deliver in that area, which is more important than anything else - without the dollars, there is no move up. And without the dollars going forward there is no ability to sustain consistency at the next level. Pitino - fantastic young coach - but he will bring a couple of low-life transfers with him, put together a .500 season next year, look like a hero and he will be the head coach at Rutgers or Seton Hall this time next season. Rhoades - as someone alluded to - a lot of similar qualities we saw with our previous head coach, though he is quite a bit younger. He has never run a D-I program and has never had to be a rainmaker, especially at the level of what Siena needs right now. Toole - great young coach that I expect to sign a $300k+ per year contract at RMU shortly. RMU isn't going to let him go - new baby at home, big bump in pay, guarantees some serious stability. Would have been great if he had same resume 3 years ago when Fran left. I don't even think this is a competition. Take the names away - if you saw a candidate with the following resume, you'd sign him sight unseen: Decade as D-I head coach Built a mid-major from the worst program in the country into a conference champ Program has consistently competed at the top of the league Current and former players rave about him Players graduate School admin loves him Second to none with boosters, media, fans, players Exceptional fundraising capabilities Views Siena as a destination job www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/mar/14/jimmy-patsos-passion-way-with-people-leads-to-loyo/?page=all#pagebreakYup, does everything but win anything that counts. No thanks. MAAC titles don't count?
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 28, 2013 11:23:08 GMT -5
^ 1 MAAC Tournament championship in 2012 and 0 1st place finishes in 9 years. Not exactly a raging success! Are you related or his agent?
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Post by grascandunk on Mar 28, 2013 11:53:06 GMT -5
sorry mean to post this here... I go Pitino first, he's the most likely to instantly ignite this program, and I think its worth the associated risk. I know everyone assumes he's a 1 or 2 years and done guy, but I maintain that all you can do is take the highest upside candidate, and hope for the best. Never know when someone will care more about intangibles than about money, and his family has rich ties to the area. Pastos next. I'm pretty shocked at the Pastos haters. Guy has a pretty remarkable resume that seems custom made for this job and you're hating because he hasn't pulled off any huge upsets in a handful of games? Of all the candidates I think Pastos most lends himself to the equation: current success + fascilities/name/funding Siena has to offer = expected outcome. And he's the best bet to stay long term on top of all that. I'd be very happy with Toole. I think he's done a great job, and Siena makes a lot of sense for his career progression, though I don't think he has as much to offer as the others and will almost certainly be another loop in the 4 year revolving door. Again, I ask can someone fill me in on Rhoades? Why is everyone as pleased with him as the others? I get it, he came from a great program. Can someone fill me in on what his role is precisely, what can we directly credit to Rhoades himself? Read more: sienahoops.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=864&page=5#ixzz2Or1IN4xg
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Post by Tony on Mar 28, 2013 11:54:40 GMT -5
A few observations on coaching search
Patsos has almost no chance at Siena job, I like Jimmy but sorry to say he has been hit by the proverbial Amedio curse. I mean the man gets nothing right. The interview with Urgo(didn’t happen) just a few days ago he wrote Patsos and Pitno would be on campus this week and were the front runners- no mention of Toole coming in at all- so sorry to say Jimmy you have no chance and Amedio’s constant pimping of Patsos is probably do more harm than good with Boosters these days
Having said the above- I can’t help but wonder if Siena likes what they see today, do they make Andy a offer—or even if they like him does Siena go forward with interviews set up for a later date? Maybe Amedio can answer that- and whatever way he answers we will know the opposite is probably going to happen..LOL
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Post by grascandunk on Mar 28, 2013 11:55:53 GMT -5
^ 1 MAAC Tournament championship in 2012 and 0 1st place finishes in 9 years. Not exactly a raging success! Are you related or his agent? Dude, the MAAC championship was spoken for for great many of those years as I recall....
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Post by gorvy on Mar 28, 2013 11:56:11 GMT -5
If pitino is one and done so be it. What are we afraid of, success? Patsos will be available next year too.
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