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Post by glensfalls on Mar 10, 2013 12:27:23 GMT -5
I'm hearing that admin. will be going after Rich Pitino of FIU. Stop the Bullcrap... you are not hearing Pitino's name and if your are then that would be the absolute worst selection Siena could make. Pitino has less than one year head coaching experience and his team is a mediocre 17 & 13 overall and just 11 & 9 in the lightweight Sunbelt Conference. Pitino's FIU is a public institution which has the ability to pay a whole lot more than Siena wants to pay its head men's basketball coach. The bottom line is that nepotism is what got Mitch the head job at Siena. Hopefully the braintrust at Siena does not make that same mistake this time around.
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Post by saints73 on Mar 10, 2013 12:32:31 GMT -5
I'm hearing that admin. will be going after Rich Pitino of FIU. Stop the Bullcrap... you are not hearing Pitino's name and if your are then that would be the absolute worst selection Siena could make. Pitino has less than one year head coaching experience and his team is a mediocre 17 & 13 overall and just 11 & 9 in the lightweight Sunbelt Conference. Pitino's FIU is a public institution which has the ability to pay a whole lot more than Siena wants to pay its head men's basketball coach. The bottom line is that nepotism is what got Mitch the head job at Siena. Hopefully the braintrust at Siena does not make that same mistake this time around. Bullcrap?? Excuse me? Who the hell do you think you are to insult someone's post? Do you think that I would just post something without having information to back it up? Get a life.
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Post by MTS on Mar 10, 2013 12:39:19 GMT -5
Two problems with Richard Pitino (who is even younger than Toole)
-Like HJ said ANY success and he'd be out of here in a NY minute -If his name was Richard Smith would we really be considering him?
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Post by DelmartianEd on Mar 10, 2013 12:41:49 GMT -5
I've heard the Rich Pitino rumor too--in real life, not online. Snagging a coach from a school that's about to jump to C-USA sounds surprising to me too, but there are good reasons for him to think he could have more of an impact at Siena than at a football school. And if it gives us more credibility to the A-10, that would be a very good thing.
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Post by brian on Mar 10, 2013 12:42:55 GMT -5
Pitino Jr is an interesting candidate. On the one hand, you don't like his inexperience having only 1 year of HC experience. On the other hand, I wouldn't call his one year mediocre. They have been in the Sun Belt for 14 years. Their overall record those 14 years is 60-151. The last time they had a winning record was 99-00, 13 seasons and 4 coaches ago. They were 8-21 last year under Isiah Thomas. That is a pretty impressive 1 year turnaround for a rookie head coach.
Then when you do get into the finances it raises other questions. The reports from the time of his hire have him at 250k, which is something Siena could certainly top. Though as it has been mentioned FIU is a large (50k enrollment) public university moving to Conference USA, and they can better any contract offer Siena could make.
Though conference affiliation does raise other question marks. If they struggled to compete in the Sun Belt, does Pitino get worried about an inability to win/compete in CUSA and would he rather make a move somewhere that gives him a better chance of success to start moving up the ladder.
Interesting thoughts.
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Post by saints73 on Mar 10, 2013 12:43:07 GMT -5
Two problems with Richard Pitino (who is even younger than Toole) -Like HJ said ANY success and he'd be out of here in a NY minute -If his name was Richard Smith would we really be considering him? I didn't say it was the best choice. I'm just telling you what i heard from a reliable source. GF can keep sitting in front of his computer speculating who he thinks the next coach will be.
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Post by Tony on Mar 10, 2013 13:06:39 GMT -5
I’m sure you will all hear many rumors—and the truth is that many candidates have let Siena know they are interested in the Siena position should it become available. Pitino more than likely let it be known he would be interested in job, doesn’t mean Siena is interested in him ( on other hand doesn’t mean Siena isn’t interested)
Having said that I’m sure Siena has informally looked at many candidates, but I highly doubt anyone has been pre-selected. Bottom line is we should have many good candidates for the job . After Mitch is canned I’m sure we will get prerequisites for the job ( head coaching experience D1 experience etc) Siena is very..very aware they have to make a good hire here and I think they go with the best ‘sure” bet they can.
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Post by indian1986 on Mar 10, 2013 14:55:58 GMT -5
If Pitino is a candidate, he has some pretty awesome baggage to bring with him. Like a point guard. McNeil from VT. Academy or Lynch from Thomas Jefferson, could really help the program. Like the Fran & Basabe package deal
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Post by sienadan on Mar 10, 2013 15:52:44 GMT -5
Greenberg #1. Toole has some impressive recruits he could bring with him - not sure he is the answer given the rebuild job
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Post by brian on Mar 10, 2013 16:04:28 GMT -5
Not a big fan of Greenberg.
If Siena is going to toss around bags of cash better off going after someone else.
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Post by lmnop22 on Mar 10, 2013 16:28:16 GMT -5
Candidates are interested...but interest doesn't get you a deal...candidates will come in, drop out, be offered and sometimes decline....if you have a good pool you are likely to get someone good, but rarely does a mid major school get their number one target....that only happens to the schools with bags of cash
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Post by Tony on Mar 10, 2013 16:42:26 GMT -5
lmnop22 good post and right on the mark. I like the fact looks like there are many good options out there. So I’m confident Siena will end up with a good coach
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Post by brian on Mar 10, 2013 16:54:59 GMT -5
After more research even if Greenberg happened to be interested really don't think we can go down that road.
Has/had a similar reputation as Mitch as a curmudgeon and abrasive and difficult to work with/for. He wasn't fired until the end of April last year. After every single one of his assistants left for either lateral or downward moves to get away from him.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 10, 2013 17:00:36 GMT -5
Two problems with Richard Pitino (who is even younger than Toole) -Like HJ said ANY success and he'd be out of here in a NY minute -If his name was Richard Smith would we really be considering him? Why is he so hard to believe but people would get excited over Wojo or Collins from Duke? His name does matter, because it means he's been learning from the best. Working/liivng under his father forever, and Donovan for a few years, and now grabbing some invaluable head coaching experience, he makes perfect sense. I just don't know if we could get him. He's recruit the hell out of the northeast for us that's for sure.
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Post by greenblood on Mar 10, 2013 17:13:08 GMT -5
Two problems with Richard Pitino (who is even younger than Toole) -Like HJ said ANY success and he'd be out of here in a NY minute -If his name was Richard Smith would we really be considering him? Why is he so hard to believe but people would get excited over Wojo or Collins from Duke? His name does matter, because it means he's been learning from the best. Working/liivng under his father forever, and Donovan for a few years, and now grabbing some invaluable head coaching experience, he makes perfect sense. I just don't know if we could get him. He's recruit the hell out of the northeast for us that's for sure. I agree with HJ on this one..and we CAN get him.
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