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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 12:59:15 GMT -5
Looks like he should be a big guy going to Pitt not Siena, wow, could be a great get. He didn't finish with his right hand one time in that video and seems to rely a lot on his build and athleticism. He doesn't seem to have a lot of game past 10 feet and he's only 6-6 ish. He has upside and potentially gives us a tough/athletic interior presence but it's way too soon to anoint him as anything. Opposing bigs in D1 will be bigger than him. We'll see what he develops into. I'll be happy if he's just an Abdulai Bundu type role player. I don't think he's the next Alex Franklin or Manny Camper. I've not seen anything to indicate that he's as good off the bounce. We’ll see but he seems to be as wide as he is tall. I think he’s strong enough to make room and be effective even at 6-6.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:08:39 GMT -5
He didn't finish with his right hand one time in that video and seems to rely a lot on his build and athleticism. He doesn't seem to have a lot of game past 10 feet and he's only 6-6 ish. He has upside and potentially gives us a tough/athletic interior presence but it's way too soon to anoint him as anything. Opposing bigs in D1 will be bigger than him. We'll see what he develops into. I'll be happy if he's just an Abdulai Bundu type role player. I don't think he's the next Alex Franklin or Manny Camper. I've not seen anything to indicate that he's as good off the bounce. We’ll see but he seems to be as wide as he is tall. I think he’s strong enough to make room and be effective even at 6-6. Don't get me wrong. Siena needs a physical dude like that something fierce and he may be very valuable. It's just that he's undersized and not overly skilled. He'll have to get by on being a bully early in his career. He may be strong enough to do that. We'll see.
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Post by sienafan1480 on Dec 18, 2019 13:15:43 GMT -5
Speaking of finishing with multiple hands:
That's one thing that Carpenter does. Very first play of this video is the most important in the whole thing. I think Carpenter is certainly the prize of this class so far. I would love to see him work on shooting more from a shooting pocket. The ball is still down by his waist when he starts his shooting motion. But I love how crafty he is finishing with both hands around the basket.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Dec 18, 2019 13:16:21 GMT -5
I think he's so strong and athletic that he'd be a mismatch against the MAAC right now. He's too quick to be guarded by most bigs and too strong to be guarded by guards. You need a Camper type to match up with him and even he might struggle. The kid just put up 21 and 16 against a HS team with 2 D1 kids (one of whom is a 4-star) and an all-state football player who is going to Kentucky. Colin was the best player on the floor. I still think he can play 5 in the MAAC and his face-up game is only going to get better.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:27:18 GMT -5
Speaking of finishing with multiple hands:
That's one thing that Carpenter does. Very first play of this video is the most important in the whole thing. I think Carpenter is certainly the prize of this class so far. I would love to see him work on shooting more from a shooting pocket. The ball is still down by his waist when he starts his shooting motion. But I love how crafty he is finishing with both hands around the basket. I've said it before but I'm also anxious to see BK. He seems both skilled and athletic. Unlike say Sutherland and Golson, I think he has more low post moves. He shows off an array of pivots, hops, step thrus, pull ups etc in his highlights. He simply looks more polished like Brett Bisping was. On D, he might not draw the same amount of charges but perhaps he might block more shots. If you're fairly polished skill wise, most of what it usually takes to succeed from then on is just strength and experience. I have little doubt that if Bisping was thrown into a starting spot and used correctly as a frosh, that he could have been all-rookie. The kid had the most polished post score of the season that year vs. UMass I think and it wasn't even close. It was like a pump fake, spinning step thru finish. Just a great move. Nobody thought much of it then, but it didn't surprise me much when he took a big sophomore leap. The skill was always there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2019 13:33:14 GMT -5
I think he's so strong and athletic that he'd be a mismatch against the MAAC right now. He's too quick to be guarded by most bigs and too strong to be guarded by guards. You need a Camper type to match up with him and even he might struggle. The kid just put up 21 and 16 against a HS team with 2 D1 kids (one of whom is a 4-star) and an all-state football player who is going to Kentucky. Colin was the best player on the floor. I still think he can play 5 in the MAAC and his face-up game is only going to get better. Like I said, strength is the 1 qualifier for Golson I think. If he is just THAT strong...and he very well might be...that's where he increases his impact early. Anosike certainly got by on strength and athleticism in the MAAC. It's not like he had any actual skills. Although, Anosike also was 6-8 with a 7-3 1/2 foot. wingspan...and that's just different. So we'll see if he can get away with it. Golson does have a 7 foot wingspan supposedly so we'll see. He might be able to do 'Anosike type things'. Like Anosike, I haven't seen a lot of Golson blocking a lot of shots...so that's another issue as a center that could hurt us. Bundu was a lot like a shorter, less utilized Anosike as well...so it's really just another comparison of the same thing. Since JO left, Siena has been desperate for an interior defender. Even if Golson is solid like these 2 were, a case could still be made that he's better utilized in a platoon scenario with other bigs....where the compliment a guy that's more skilled (BK) or a big shotblocking center (TBD) etc..
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Post by goldsaint17 on Dec 23, 2019 9:13:41 GMT -5
newenglandrecruitingreport.com/in-the-news/prep-profile-lee-academy-19So according to this article, Aidan Carpenter is going to enroll early for the spring semester at Siena. I’d imagine be just redshirts like Roman Penn did, but regardless it’s a good way to get Aidan in with our team early. And if we really wanted to, you could go all in and play him.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 9:23:41 GMT -5
newenglandrecruitingreport.com/in-the-news/prep-profile-lee-academy-19So according to this article, Aidan Carpenter is going to enroll early for the spring semester at Siena. I’d imagine be just redshirts like Roman Penn did, but regardless it’s a good way to get Aidan in with our team early. And if we really wanted to, you could go all in and play him. That's good news. Any leg up on next year he can get is a huge bonus. It's incredibly tempting to want him to play this year but it's probably not worth wasting his eligibility.
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Post by greengold4ever on Dec 23, 2019 9:27:43 GMT -5
this next class is really looking good, all should be contributors right from the moment they arrive on campus..............now we need 2 more "playa's" to fill out the roster, perhaps more if there are additional (ahem) defections............
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Post by goldsaint17 on Dec 23, 2019 9:32:25 GMT -5
newenglandrecruitingreport.com/in-the-news/prep-profile-lee-academy-19So according to this article, Aidan Carpenter is going to enroll early for the spring semester at Siena. I’d imagine be just redshirts like Roman Penn did, but regardless it’s a good way to get Aidan in with our team early. And if we really wanted to, you could go all in and play him. That's good news. Any leg up on next year he can get is a huge bonus. It's incredibly tempting to want him to play this year but it's probably not worth wasting his eligibility. Probably just depends when we could get him. I remember one case where a kid at Auburn enrolled right after fall semester and took a shortened class that allowed him to play starting like December 15. We don’t have those luxuries, so he’d probably not be able to play until like MLK day. In theory, he could play his first game on 1/24 and would have 13 regular season games in front of him, plus the MAAC Tournament. If he crushes it in practice that first week it becomes somewhat tempting... but I would agree, the likely move is to just redshirt him. Given we entered the year with two open spots, it makes a ton of sense to do this. We can still take a midyear kid if we want and if not, we can offer to put King on scholarship for semester two. Love this creative move by the staff.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 9:33:32 GMT -5
Carpenter is probably talented enough that he could make an impact THIS year if he wanted. He'd cheat his career out of 10+ games though.
On the flip side, it might mean the difference in a title...but he'd probably start off slower than he otherwise would.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Dec 23, 2019 9:39:25 GMT -5
Carpenter is probably talented enough that he could make an impact THIS year if he wanted. He'd cheat his career out of 10+ games though. On the flip side, it might mean the difference in a title...but he'd probably start off slower than he otherwise would. Yeah, basically the question is whether there is that much of a gap between Carpenter and King given Carpenter would be playing his first college game like 4 days after enrolling officially. Obviously I’m bullish long term but I question just how effective he’d be in day one.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2019 9:46:14 GMT -5
Carpenter is probably talented enough that he could make an impact THIS year if he wanted. He'd cheat his career out of 10+ games though. On the flip side, it might mean the difference in a title...but he'd probably start off slower than he otherwise would. Yeah, basically the question is whether there is that much of a gap between Carpenter and King given Carpenter would be playing his first college game like 4 days after enrolling officially. Obviously I’m bullish long term but I question just how effective he’d be in day one. It would be throwing him to the wolves. Not really fair to him.
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Post by $cott on Dec 23, 2019 9:47:11 GMT -5
If we were sitting at 7-1 right now and looking like a team that could make some noise in the NCAA Tourney then I would be for suiting up Carpenter as soon as possible. But the reality is we are 3-5 and even if we make the NCAA Tourney we are going to have an extremely difficult first round opponent. I know after the long drought we are desperate to get back to the big dance but using up a year of Carpenter's eligibility now when 4 years from now he could be part of something much bigger would be a mistake. Now if it turns out that he's enrolling early cause he plans to graduate in 3.5 years and wouldn't be here any longer than that anyways then you've got nothing to lose by playing him.
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Post by mike60 on Dec 23, 2019 10:22:32 GMT -5
What you say makes a lot of sense Scott. But his playing part of this year, in theory, should make him far more effective next year. I know he can practice this year, but development comes with competition.
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