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Nov 10, 2013 12:37:08 GMT -5
Post by MTS on Nov 10, 2013 12:37:08 GMT -5
Wignot is way more athletic than Poole... I think Poole is the better overall basketball player. I will say Wignot had a knack of hitting some big shots in big games. I would agree on our great teams Poole is a role player (but a very good one). He is a good player but on an outstanding team he's just another piece of the puzzel.
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Nov 10, 2013 12:40:58 GMT -5
Post by musicman on Nov 10, 2013 12:40:58 GMT -5
Wignot is way more athletic than Poole... I think Poole is the better overall basketball player. I will say Wignot had a knack of hitting some big shots in big games. I would agree on our great teams Poole is a role player (but a very good one). He is a good player but on an outstanding team he's just another piece of the puzzel. all true.
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Nov 10, 2013 12:41:18 GMT -5
Post by Tony on Nov 10, 2013 12:41:18 GMT -5
That's HJ problem- he must be one of those what have you done for me lately types-- yes Poole had a bad half, and no he will never be confused for Ubiles-- But Poole is a solid player
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Nov 10, 2013 12:43:50 GMT -5
Post by th24 on Nov 10, 2013 12:43:50 GMT -5
That's HJ problem- he must be one of those what have you done for me lately types-- yes Poole had a bad half, and no he will never be confused for Ubiles-- But Poole is a solid player I agree- and I would add that Poole is 10x better than Wignot and Jackson!
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Nov 10, 2013 12:46:02 GMT -5
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Post by bigsaintg on Nov 10, 2013 12:46:02 GMT -5
10x better than Jackson is a stretch
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Nov 10, 2013 12:49:17 GMT -5
Post by Tony on Nov 10, 2013 12:49:17 GMT -5
10x better than Jackson is a stretch Agree in fact Jackson was probably better than Poole- he certainly shot better.. Poole is better rebounder and passer
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Nov 10, 2013 13:05:19 GMT -5
Post by th24 on Nov 10, 2013 13:05:19 GMT -5
10x better than Jackson is a stretch Agree in fact Jackson was probably better than Poole- he certainly shot better.. Poole is better rebounder and passer I disagree! When I look at Jackson I see him as solid sixth man! He was major disappoint in his last 2 years-and could could not handle the pressure of being a starter. Countless times he Fran was on his ass for not hustling, bad passing or crappy shots. That being said.. IF he plays in the Pardue game- Siena wins that game!
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Nov 10, 2013 13:11:15 GMT -5
Post by Tony on Nov 10, 2013 13:11:15 GMT -5
damn I thought it was the Purdue game he missed
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Nov 10, 2013 14:28:56 GMT -5
Post by siena77 on Nov 10, 2013 14:28:56 GMT -5
One thing about Jackson--when we played "up" games (Pitt and Kansas come to mind) some of our guys looked overmatched and intimidated. Clarence gave us great performances in those games more often than not. Rossiter was able to overcome Fran not being around during his senior year; Clarence could not, due to injuries and poor coaching.
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Nov 10, 2013 14:33:34 GMT -5
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Post by OneIndian on Nov 10, 2013 14:33:34 GMT -5
That's HJ problem- he must be one of those what have you done for me lately types-- yes Poole had a bad half, and no he will never be confused for Ubiles-- But Poole is a solid player I agree- and I would add that Poole is 10x better than Wignot and Jackson! 10x no way, you're crazy!
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 10, 2013 17:09:48 GMT -5
I agree- and I would add that Poole is 10x better than Wignot and Jackson! 10x no way, you're crazy! As I said. .. It's arguable. I think Clarence is a better defender. Poole is a better rebounder/leader. Clarence is a better 2. Poole a better 3. Clarence's senior year was under the worst coach in history. Poole will get two seasons under a far better coach/system. Really tough for me to pick but I prefer athleticism. Wignot also never realized potential under mitch. Good coaches find ways to hide weaknesses. Mitch was great at exposing his own team's
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Nov 10, 2013 17:30:03 GMT -5
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Post by $cott on Nov 10, 2013 17:30:03 GMT -5
Jackson > Poole > Wignot
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Nov 10, 2013 18:15:40 GMT -5
Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 10, 2013 18:15:40 GMT -5
I love your, "forget the career numbers" line. WHY? Because its shows how wrong you are? I just did go back and look at Owens last two years and his numnbers get BETTER, (42.6 fg%, and his 3 pt % went up to 34.4) and Pooles obviously stay the same (36% and 34%), below average. You bought a pea shotter to a gun fight. It's amazing how campaigning, and all star teams crap can cloud peoples judgement! smh I was trying to help you by going two years if you rather look at entire career it only gets worse for you. But since they both played two years for PW we can look at it both ways --- --I mean this is laughable, that you actually think Owen was better than Poole.. I'm not sure where you were looking Owen shot 31% from 3 his senior year..Poole shot 40% from 3-- ( yeah that,s close ) in 2 years Poole has more 3 pointers made than Owen made in his career ( Yeah another close one..LOL) Owen Avg 4.4 ppg over his entire career-- in fact Owen scored 541 points in 4 years in his first two years Poole had more points than Owen scored his entire career - lets end this right here-- career avg wignot 4.4 ppg 2.7 rpg 1 assit per game. a solid role player over entire career Poole . In two years 561 points 9,4 ( twice the PPG avg of Owen in fact Owen never averaged 9 points in a single year in his career 4 RPG ( almost twice the average of Owen ) Rob is better foul shooter and better passer _ yes you guessed it Rob has as many assist in two years as Owen did in 4 years I think you had the pea shooter cowpoke-- those numbers aren't even close You tell me to "throw out career numbers" and all you do is throw numbers at me!!?? LOL Owen Wignot had a beter shooting percentage from the field, and the SAME % from the 3 pt line in his 4 years vs Robs 2 years. Now you wanna go into TOTALS when my guy played behind GREAT teammates, and your guy played with no one of any signifigance? I showed the career numbers, while you pick and choose a year here and there. Spin it anyway you want Tony, your boy has played two years at Siena and he's shot 36% from the field. Now what? that's a great shooter? LOL Poole has had MORE OPPORTUNITIES than Wignot. Not because he's better, but because he played with NO ONE hanging from the rafters!! Owen HAD to play the PF for this team, and thats a joke. Poole wouldn't have done anything on the Moore/Edwin/Alex teams.......nothing.
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Nov 10, 2013 18:20:44 GMT -5
Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 10, 2013 18:20:44 GMT -5
That's HJ problem- he must be one of those what have you done for me lately types-- yes Poole had a bad half, and no he will never be confused for Ubiles-- But Poole is a solid player "Done for me lately?" I gave you Pooles CAREER (the stats you told me don't matter? ) shooting percentage after 60+ games!!!! It's 36%!!!! Owens was 41% in his 100 games!! What's the confusion? And from the 3 pt line, after all these games,(and the only ones we have to go on) they shot EXACTLY the same!!! (.342%) Now I see whay you told me to throw these numbers out.......its like a cold glass of water in your face. Robs form is 100x better looking than Owens, but the results are better with the kid that was always in the background, because he never got a real opportunity because of how great his teammates were,. ps---Tony you proudly said Rob shot 40% from the 3 pt line one year......so if his CAREER % from there is 32% what did he shoot his OTHER year at Siena?? Or would you prefer we leave out his 27% from beyond the ARC his first year? LOL And who cares how many he makes? If he takes 100 and makes 32, thats better than Owen taking 50 and making 16?? REALLY? LMAO
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Nov 10, 2013 18:32:25 GMT -5
Post by greenblood on Nov 10, 2013 18:32:25 GMT -5
and Rob has not played in a system where he has the opportunity to improve....just saying, like everything else this year, let's see how the new and old merge with COACHING and EXPECTATIONS.
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