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Post by playerparentcoach on Aug 29, 2013 6:38:10 GMT -5
I’m sure we will see the big line up at times- how much depends on how they defend As for the 3 point shooting on this trip keep two things in mind I think 3 of the 5 games were played with 24 sec shot clock, so many of those 3’s were rushed at end of clock, and the entire trip the 3 point line was the international distance ( about a foot and a half longer than NCAA) and yes that makes a difference Very true on all counts...this team has 3pt shooting and unselfish players that will make the extra pass...First team to 80
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 6:58:18 GMT -5
Poole played over 35 min/gm as a freshman but then got sick mid-way through last year and was not the same the rest of the season. I think we get to see what he can really do this year. Coming in JP said he was a cornerstone and I don't think Poole did anything to change JP's mind this trip. After the Brookwood game JP said "I knew Rob Poole would not let us quit", you can't teach that. Combine that with 24 and 23 pt games and solid defense and that is a major reason Lavon will not see major minutes at the three the next two years. For Lavon, that's the bad news. The good news is he will see SOME time at the three and has two years to grow his game and rise and shine as a jr after Poole graduates. Two years to strut his stuff, and polish his skills as an "all-around player". Nine fouls in two games is a little disconcerting, but there are a ton of reasons why that might have happened, including he is still adjusting to playing against a team full of big, quick players. As for the "undersized 4" characterization PPC, ask some of the posters how Alex Franklin did as a 6'5" "4" against some pretty tough programs including the national champion Louisville Cardinals in the NCAA second round. He ended up beating a couple of pretty good teamates (and some other pretty good MAAC players) for MAAC POY. It may not be where you envision him playing the next two years but looks like that will be the scenario. Better than going to a BCS school and riding the pine for two or more years "waiting his turn". Just curious, you said you now realize he should have gone BCS to maximize his potential.. did he have any BCS offers? Just to be accurate, Poole averaged 27.4 minutes per game as a freshman, not "over 35". he was the 6th man, started 6 of 31 games.
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Post by SaintsFan on Aug 29, 2013 8:10:47 GMT -5
that is accurate magic, but he did play 30+ minutes in 11 games his rookie year and nine more games of 27+. SERIOUS minutes for a rookie
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 8:20:37 GMT -5
We NEED Silas. This team is not particularly tough on the boards without him. He needs to get his game in gear.
Poole and Hymes are the leaders. Wright is the most important. Long is the versatility. Silas the interior.
Everyone else are contributors but not as important at this point. Bisping did most of his scoring inside this week. He took only 1 three all week. Why? He won't find things as easy inside during the season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 8:31:20 GMT -5
that is accurate magic, but he did play 30+ minutes in 11 games his rookie year and nine more games of 27+. SERIOUS minutes for a rookie 30 plus 11 times is quite different than hockeyguy saying he played 35+ average was my point. I wish Poole would get 35+, every year.
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Post by Sienafan on Aug 29, 2013 8:59:17 GMT -5
We NEED Silas. This team is not particularly tough on the boards without him. He needs to get his game in gear. Poole and Hymes are the leaders. Wright is the most important. Long is the versatility. Silas the interior. Everyone else are contributors but not as important at this point. Bisping did most of his scoring inside this week. He took only 1 three all week. Why? He won't find things as easy inside during the season. None of them tried to light it up from three much - most likely because of the international 3 point line. As for the your list of important vs. less important players, I disagree. I think JO may end up being the better option than Silas this season if things continue on their current path.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 9:07:22 GMT -5
We NEED Silas. This team is not particularly tough on the boards without him. He needs to get his game in gear. Poole and Hymes are the leaders. Wright is the most important. Long is the versatility. Silas the interior. Everyone else are contributors but not as important at this point. Bisping did most of his scoring inside this week. He took only 1 three all week. Why? He won't find things as easy inside during the season. None of them tried to light it up from three much - most likely because of the international 3 point line. As for the your list of important vs. less important players, I disagree. I think JO may end up being the better option than Silas this season if things continue on their current path. JO needs to rebound better. Wolfe hardly played and nearly had the same amount of boards. He likes to score but I still don't yet think he's got the toughness and desire inside. Silas had twice the rebounds and he averaged like 15 mins a game. The competition inside is only going to get tougher. If he couldn't get boards now, what's it going to be like against the Laury's, Brown's, Kemp's, Pankey's of the MAAC?
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Post by SaintsFan on Aug 29, 2013 9:08:50 GMT -5
that is accurate magic, but he did play 30+ minutes in 11 games his rookie year and nine more games of 27+. SERIOUS minutes for a rookie 30 plus 11 times is quite different than hockeyguy saying he played 35+ average was my point. I wish Poole would get 35+, every year. i would hope the team is deep enough that he never has to average that.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 9:12:19 GMT -5
30 plus 11 times is quite different than hockeyguy saying he played 35+ average was my point. I wish Poole would get 35+, every year. i would hope the team is deep enough that he never has to average that. When a coach says he's looking to play 8-9 guys, guys are going to get minutes. 35+ isn't unheard of in D1.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 9:14:24 GMT -5
i would hope the team is deep enough that he never has to average that. When a coach says he's looking to play 8-9 guys, guys are going to get minutes. 35+ isn't unheard of in D1. In the post game, Luke made it sound like the staff came away thinking they had 11 guys who could play...including White. Interpret as you will...
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Aug 29, 2013 9:20:38 GMT -5
We NEED Silas. This team is not particularly tough on the boards without him. He needs to get his game in gear. Silas' development will have a significant impact on this team in a number of ways. If he does improve upon his penchant for silly fouls & turnovers, he should see starter's minutes at the 5 and, as you said, be this team's top rebounder and low-post defensive presence. If he doesn't reduce his mistakes, his minutes will be cut, and I think that will result in seeing some smaller front-court line-ups due to the lack of options behind him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 9:20:55 GMT -5
When a coach says he's looking to play 8-9 guys, guys are going to get minutes. 35+ isn't unheard of in D1. In the post game, Luke made it sound like the staff came away thinking they had 11 guys who could play...including White. Interpret as you will... I agree they have 11 who can play, but realistically, how often does that happen. Over 100 players average more than 35 minutes per game in D1 last year.
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Post by Sienafan on Aug 29, 2013 9:27:46 GMT -5
None of them tried to light it up from three much - most likely because of the international 3 point line. As for the your list of important vs. less important players, I disagree. I think JO may end up being the better option than Silas this season if things continue on their current path. JO needs to rebound better. Wolfe hardly played and nearly had the same amount of boards. He likes to score but I still don't yet think he's got the toughness and desire inside. Silas had twice the rebounds and he averaged like 15 mins a game. The competition inside is only going to get tougher. If he couldn't get boards now, what's it going to be like against the Laury's, Brown's, Kemp's, Pankey's of the MAAC? It's August and JO is just 4 games into his college career. I think he's got more to show you. Meanwhile Silas the veteran starter had to be benched. JO is the most physically imposing of them as well. The rebounds will come as he learns positioning in practice. The team needs consistent offense from the 5 this season.
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Post by DelmartianEd on Aug 29, 2013 9:30:36 GMT -5
In the post game, Luke made it sound like the staff came away thinking they had 11 guys who could play...including White. Interpret as you will... I agree they have 11 who can play, but realistically, how often does that happen. Over 100 players average more than 35 minutes per game in D1 last year. Well, injuries are an unfortunate reality (we've got one right now that should clear up before the season starts). So 11 is good, since this team will still be able to go nine deep even if there are (knock on wood) two injuries at the same time.
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Post by Sienafan on Aug 29, 2013 9:32:30 GMT -5
In the post game, Luke made it sound like the staff came away thinking they had 11 guys who could play...including White. Interpret as you will... I agree they have 11 who can play, but realistically, how often does that happen. Over 100 players average more than 35 minutes per game in D1 last year. You can easily play 11 in an up tempo style. Players get winded faster playing that way and you keep running fresh players in there. You can especially rotate a lot of guards who are always sprinting. This wears down the opposing team.
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