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Post by greenblood on Apr 18, 2018 6:25:00 GMT -5
The firm supposedly settled on Beilein, no? Dunne must have been the most qualified runner up based on what they were offering.
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Post by james on Apr 18, 2018 7:16:45 GMT -5
After reading article in TU this morning concerning Petino I wonder if the AD met with the coach or are the excuses just a smokescreen for the administration saying they could or would not come to terms with RP; and why would you want D'argenio & company interviewing in the first place considering the last 2 coaches not including Beyer who were hired (by) this AD.Opportunities like this come by once in a lifetime.The money that would be created could put Siena financially on stable ground.Do not mess this up.GO SAINTS!!
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Post by olddave on Apr 18, 2018 7:19:59 GMT -5
The firm supposedly settled on Beilein, no? Dunne must have been the most qualified runner up based on what they were offering. Loved your post regarding the kids families etc.. Everyone forgets they are in limbo. If Siena did not hire a search firm 2 weeks ago shows how poor their administration is in managing the college. This goes with the balance of you post, at some point the higher ups who make these decisions must leave, terminated. Another more question, more importantly is why D’arg is even involved, given his past history. Not for you GB. As far as RP a dream, who knows, BUT if we were to take past transgressions into consideration St Fran, JP, and others would not have been coaching at Siena. They all had baggage. You don,t want possible transgressions, moral or ethical deliemnas get out of the game.
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Post by OneIndian on Apr 18, 2018 7:21:20 GMT -5
We’ve known for awhile Patsos was persona non grata and an exit strategy was in the works. Can it be a succession plan wasn’t discussed concurrently?
College can’t get this wrong.
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Post by olddave on Apr 18, 2018 7:24:28 GMT -5
We’ve known for awhile Patsos was persona non grata and an exit strategy was in the works. Can it be a succession plan wasn’t discussed concurrently? College can’t get this wrong. Can’t argue that they can’t get it wrong, I believe most here just have no faith in the current admin. In getting the job done. As stated we have known for a while JP was gone, no reason not to hire a search firm to quietly weed out possible candidates so when day come JP is finally gone, boom, you have the best.
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Post by rpize24 on Apr 18, 2018 7:25:12 GMT -5
Singelais was able to get a hold of Roddy Valente and asked him about Pitino and asked him about Pitino coaching at Siena and he said, "unfortunately that will not be happening."
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Post by olddave on Apr 18, 2018 7:30:45 GMT -5
Ashame, oh well move on. I am skeptic though, usuallly take the times useless with a grain of salt. Let’s just say never is never til a replacement coach is actually named, everyone is still in the sandbox.
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Post by blockhead43 on Apr 18, 2018 7:32:31 GMT -5
If they cant get Pitino- then I'm fine with search firm, better than having Darg do it My fear is the search firm will identify the candidates, but the hire will come down to the AD and administration's choice. We all know how that turns out in the end -- the AD and the admin will not select the best candidate. The search firm does the leg work, but ultimately the people who have not been successful in selecting coaches in the past will again be left with the final decision. Ugggggg.
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Post by mjs72 on Apr 18, 2018 7:35:30 GMT -5
B43, not an unreasonable fear but to avoid Paps (the troll)'s prediction we must all "love" whoever is selected. Burning, unconditional love.
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Post by olddave on Apr 18, 2018 7:37:35 GMT -5
If they cant get Pitino- then I'm fine with search firm, better than having Darg do it My fear is the search firm will identify the candidates, but the hire will come down to the AD and administration's choice. We all know how that turns out in the end -- the AD and the admin will not select the best candidate. The search firm does the leg work, but ultimately the people who have not been successful in selecting coaches in the past will again be left with the final decision. Ugggggg. Rightful concern. Will the BOD let the same personnel do the hiring.Br. Ed to the best of my knowledge did not hire JP, though he certainly played a role in extensions. Question asked before, where money came from for JP buyout. If from a donor did it have conditions stipulations on the program. I don’t know, most here choose to ignore and not answer. If correct, the donation will play a role in the future of program.
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Apr 18, 2018 7:41:30 GMT -5
I would love Beilien as a new up and comer with a bunch of connecoins at higher levels.
Though very successful not sold on Becker being a difference maker, though I do think he would win.
As much as we might be selling our soul to the Devil for Pitino, he might very well also be the program changer that we have been waiting for....for years....well before Fran....that can give smallbany an opportunity to have something of national significance.
Hard to say no and not take a chance on that opportunity.
You blew it once when you did not pursue the A-10 opportunity when you had the chance. Hard to walk away from a second opportunity if the monies he will accept are anything south of a million (even at $950k).
If you think his name and "coaching record" can bring in a much higher level of recruit which will translate to a quicker turnaround on the floor in terms of wins and losses, as well as bringing in 2,000 more fan's a game than Beilien or anyone else would right from the get go, along with all the additional revenue streams he would create for not only Siena but the local downtown Albany economy, and all the national attention Siena would get, which leads to more student applications, etc...., how can you walk away from that perfect storm of an opportunity over a couple hundred thousand a year if you are at let's say $700k and he is at $900k?
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Post by hoopdad on Apr 18, 2018 7:49:45 GMT -5
Why does anyone think the same AD and administration that has allowed the program to run into the ground the past 8 years is going to get this hire right? There is more than men's basketball HC problems with the Siena athletic program.
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Post by clickclack on Apr 18, 2018 7:58:08 GMT -5
Can't believe at this late a stage Siena is still in the process of hiring a search firm...search firms are for AD's that can't do their job. I know people love to use them because it removes some of the blame and burden of making a call if it goes south. You just offload the responsibility. AD, do your job, interview, hire and stand behind your choice. I know your AD has a terrible track record and I know why you guys don't trust him. IMO just another reason to dump the dead wood. Get a real AD...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2018 8:03:26 GMT -5
The firm supposedly settled on Beilein, no? Dunne must have been the most qualified runner up based on what they were offering. Loved your post regarding the kids families etc.. Everyone forgets they are in limbo. If Siena did not hire a search firm 2 weeks ago shows how poor their administration is in managing the college. This goes with the balance of you post, at some point the higher ups who make these decisions must leave, terminated. Another more question, more importantly is why D’arg is even involved, given his past history. Not for you GB. As far as RP a dream, who knows, BUT if we were to take past transgressions into consideration St Fran, JP, and others would not have been coaching at Siena. They all had baggage. You don,t want possible transgressions, moral or ethical deliemnas get out of the game. Could you enlighten me as to what "past transgressions" existed when Siena hired Fran? What other "baggage" was out there about "others" we hired? Throwing out these vague, wide open, and, to my knowledge, unsubstantiated charges does noone any good. Not trying to be confrontational, just trying to understand the factual basis for your claims....
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Apr 18, 2018 8:05:16 GMT -5
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