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Post by gosaints on Jan 26, 2018 9:56:49 GMT -5
Thanks JP let's just try and feed the ball to Prince.Yeah everyone stand around we call a timeout to force feed Prince WTF Here's PO's stats - 13 min, 3 points, 1 rebound, 4 to's and fouled out. Why would any sane coach try and feed PO the ball? Here's another unimpressive stat! Fisher and Oduro combine for 2 of the teams 36 rebounds!!!!
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Post by rickyp on Jan 26, 2018 10:03:23 GMT -5
I think we should start Prince bring Fisher off the bench.I think Prince not starting he couldn't get in the flow of the game.Therefore throwing off his rhythm.He couldn't get the energy flowing he needed.
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Post by gosaints on Jan 26, 2018 10:10:58 GMT -5
I think we should start Prince bring Fisher off the bench.I think Prince not starting he couldn't get in the flow of the game.Therefore throwing off his rhythm.He couldn't get the energy flowing he needed. Seriously, if a kid can't or doesn't bring "energy" to the game/team his ass needs to be sitting on the bench!
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Post by siena95 on Jan 26, 2018 10:17:12 GMT -5
He may be able to get his energy going if he dropped 20 or so pounds.... and yeah, he is a freshman who has been lucky enough to start a ton, BUT they all need to be ready to contribute when called upon... not saying this was an issue with Prince, but if you are moping, or can't get your motor running because you didn't start, well, you need some help in several areas.
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Post by rickyp on Jan 26, 2018 10:17:22 GMT -5
I was just anticipating what might come next.Doesn't that sound like it would come out like that.
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Post by gosaints on Jan 26, 2018 10:25:27 GMT -5
I was just anticipating what might come next.Doesn't that sound like it would come out like that. You can't anticipate anything when you have a coach who "may" have finally gotten his head out of his A-- and is both coaching and recruiting while operating in Desperation Mode.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 10:35:30 GMT -5
Prince came in touted as all world, all MAAC, and all that JP needed...I think the total staff has let the kid down...they have failed to hone the skills he came in with, failed to teach new and very necessary skills, failed to incorporate plays to benefit from his size and current skill set, failed at correcting his foul prone nature (not helped by our well advertised and poorly executed offense - did I say force it inside and then we'll look to score....?), and then yo-yo'd him game after game. Not sure he and Evan compliment (in terms of skill set/athleticism) each other when paired on the floor. When these two combine for only 2/36 rebounds, something is seriously wrong - the plantar fasciitis condition hasn't been mentioned in a bit and I, based on my own experience, doubt it was magically cured in a couple of months via inserts or new UA sneaks. We are guard rich and something is not right with our combination of bigs - can't hurt to try playing one big and four guards. What strikes me as really strange is how Friday is completely closed out - perhaps he should request a meeting with the boss after talking with Thomas and Manny to see how they sold themselves.
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Post by gosaints on Jan 26, 2018 10:56:34 GMT -5
Prince came in touted as all world, all MAAC, and all that JP needed...I think the total staff has let the kid down...they have failed to hone the skills he came in with, failed to teach new and very necessary skills, failed to incorporate plays to benefit from his size and current skill set, failed at correcting his foul prone nature (not helped by our well advertised and poorly executed offense - did I say force it inside and then we'll look to score....?), and then yo-yo'd him game after game. Not sure he and Evan compliment (in terms of skill set/athleticism) each other when paired on the floor. When these two combine for only 2/36 rebounds, something is seriously wrong - the plantar fasciitis condition hasn't been mentioned in a bit and I, based on my own experience, doubt it was magically cured in a couple of months via inserts or new UA sneaks. We are guard rich and something is not right with our combination of bigs - can't hurt to try playing one big and four guards. What strikes me as really strange is how Friday is completely closed out - perhaps he should request a meeting with the boss after talking with Thomas and Manny to see how they sold themselves. I don't believe this coaching staff understands the need or knows how to continually be developing their players skill set. Only time will tell how Campers meeting with So So went. I'm guessing his playing time decreases as the season wears on. Everyone on this board (except the current coaching staff) knows Sammy should be getting at least 15 minutes of playing time/game. Jimmy yo yo's everyone except Penn. Reason number 1 why they are so inconsistent. He has all the players except Penn and maybe now Horn looking over their shoulder when they make a mistake looking to see if they're getting the hook.
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Post by siena95 on Jan 26, 2018 11:34:08 GMT -5
Prince came in touted as all world, all MAAC, and all that JP needed...I think the total staff has let the kid down...they have failed to hone the skills he came in with, failed to teach new and very necessary skills, failed to incorporate plays to benefit from his size and current skill set, failed at correcting his foul prone nature (not helped by our well advertised and poorly executed offense - did I say force it inside and then we'll look to score....?), and then yo-yo'd him game after game. Not sure he and Evan compliment (in terms of skill set/athleticism) each other when paired on the floor. When these two combine for only 2/36 rebounds, something is seriously wrong - the plantar fasciitis condition hasn't been mentioned in a bit and I, based on my own experience, doubt it was magically cured in a couple of months via inserts or new UA sneaks. We are guard rich and something is not right with our combination of bigs - can't hurt to try playing one big and four guards. What strikes me as really strange is how Friday is completely closed out - perhaps he should request a meeting with the boss after talking with Thomas and Manny to see how they sold themselves. Friday did meet with him... didn't translate to minutes though.
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Post by MTS on Jan 26, 2018 11:34:48 GMT -5
Prince came in touted as all world, all MAAC, and all that JP needed...I think the total staff has let the kid down...they have failed to hone the skills he came in with, failed to teach new and very necessary skills, failed to incorporate plays to benefit from his size and current skill set, failed at correcting his foul prone nature (not helped by our well advertised and poorly executed offense - did I say force it inside and then we'll look to score....?), and then yo-yo'd him game after game. Not sure he and Evan compliment (in terms of skill set/athleticism) each other when paired on the floor. When these two combine for only 2/36 rebounds, something is seriously wrong - the plantar fasciitis condition hasn't been mentioned in a bit and I, based on my own experience, doubt it was magically cured in a couple of months via inserts or new UA sneaks. We are guard rich and something is not right with our combination of bigs - can't hurt to try playing one big and four guards. What strikes me as really strange is how Friday is completely closed out - perhaps he should request a meeting with the boss after talking with Thomas and Manny to see how they sold themselves. Prince can play. He looks lost because he is a frosh big who desperately needs to be coached up.
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Post by hoopdad on Jan 26, 2018 11:53:41 GMT -5
Prince's skills are VERY raw in my opinion. He is Big and somewhat athletic. Terrible hands, drops everything he touches, foul waiting to happen, poor shooting touch, not a great rebounder, not a great defender. I think there is a lot of upside to the kid, but he has a long way to go. He is getting by on his physical presence right now and that will only take him so far. He needs to work and improve at all aspects of his game, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 11:56:41 GMT -5
Prince can play. He looks lost because he is a frosh big who desperately needs to be coached up. I'm ok with a frosh struggling with consistency...largely with reference to mistakes like missed FGs, TOs, and fouls. What I'm not ok with is the combination of not rebounding, not shotblocking, and not making FTs. For a kid with his build and athleticism, those are more than just 'frosh mistakes'. Often times a young big that doesn't rebound well...it's because he's too thin and not strong. This is not the case with Oduro. He's looking like a JO-esque dud on the boards without the benefit of shotblocking to make up for it. Some players just don't rebound well. I fear he may be one of them. Something has to change with this guy. He either needs to start making FTs or start rebounding or something.
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Post by gosaints on Jan 26, 2018 12:08:55 GMT -5
Prince's skills are VERY raw in my opinion. He is Big and somewhat athletic. Terrible hands, drops everything he touches, foul waiting to happen, poor shooting touch, not a great rebounder, not a great defender. I think there is a lot of upside to the kid, but he has a long way to go. He is getting by on his physical presence right now and that will only take him so far. He needs to work and improve at all aspects of his game, IMO. Unfortunately he needs coaching to help him accomplish this. Something he's not going to get with the current staff at Siena.
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Post by bbfan on Jan 26, 2018 15:00:14 GMT -5
Prince came in touted as all world, all MAAC, and all that JP needed...I think the total staff has let the kid down...they have failed to hone the skills he came in with, failed to teach new and very necessary skills, failed to incorporate plays to benefit from his size and current skill set, failed at correcting his foul prone nature (not helped by our well advertised and poorly executed offense - did I say force it inside and then we'll look to score....?), and then yo-yo'd him game after game. Not sure he and Evan compliment (in terms of skill set/athleticism) each other when paired on the floor. When these two combine for only 2/36 rebounds, something is seriously wrong - the plantar fasciitis condition hasn't been mentioned in a bit and I, based on my own experience, doubt it was magically cured in a couple of months via inserts or new UA sneaks. We are guard rich and something is not right with our combination of bigs - can't hurt to try playing one big and four guards. What strikes me as really strange is how Friday is completely closed out - perhaps he should request a meeting with the boss after talking with Thomas and Manny to see how they sold themselves. JP sure fell for being on team Canada. If JP actually did some proper recruiting/research he would of found out it was only because so many kids decided not to play for team Canada last year. The only game Canada lost was the only game Oduro started, against Spain. I guess they thought that Spain would be a very winnable game and gave him the nod. He actually had 14 points but was a brutal -13 an important stat that I guess JP doesn't pay attention to. It kills me that JP was touting him as all world, all MAAC lol he was ranked 29th in Canada and dropping due to wait gain and slowing down and just not able to improve his shooting. Oduro will be able to play in the MAAC and be effective in time, but it starts with getting in shape. Friday would have been way more productive then PO, given the same minutes and free passes as PO. Any chance of getting 5 MAAC wins at this point, includes Sammy.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2018 15:32:24 GMT -5
bbfan - I'd be willing to bet the plantar fasciitis was a contributor to his "slowing down" and had we gone and watched the kid many times (what good coaches do) it just might have gotten some notice...not so with this crew - JP hasn't seen his feet in so long he probably doesn't even look at feet OR FOOT SPEED....that is, if he actually goes and sees a kid
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