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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 6:42:22 GMT -5
Just a bit of advice - you are biting off way more than you can chew - jumping from a ? about GB playing to coaching at the collegiate level as a basis for her analysis, confirms your first statement, the one about your inferior knowledge. One doesn't have to coach at the collegiate level to have a knowledge of the game that affords their views and critiques with a degree of respect and consideration. GB knows the game, both from coaching, viewing from the cheap seats in countless venues, and from very in-depth technical discussions with so many of our previous players. She wasn't knicknamed " TEAM MOM" for no reason. As to your point about play calling, you are partially correct in that, in some situations, PG's look back at their benches to see IF A CHANGE SHOULD BE MADE, i.e., if the D switches from man to zone or vice versa. Most trusted PG's are given the freedom to call plays based on what they see in the defense that is in front of them - that skill is developed on the practice floor based on one, two or three days of playing against a scout team, running the current opponent's most likely plays, AND also playing AS A MEMBER OF THE SCOUT TEAM during those practices - that's what good coaches do. A little more in-depth than "Joe Blow is a lefty, now go play with energy" or "This team is better than us now go play with energy and remember, it's all about the MAAC". Good coaches and good PG's get direction in the huddle - our kids get their ear wax melted or watch one of their teammates get his ass reamed. Coaches will many times give a signal to one of the players bringing the ball inbounds or up court if a specific play is called based on the current situation (Note I said when bringing the ball up court, not after getting the ball over midcourt and then wondering what now??), that player, if not the PG, will pass that info onto his teammates. JP's system involves screams and "Hey look at me!!!" signals that, besides telling his players that coach had a momentary brain fart, alerts the other team to the fact that "A PLAY IS BEING CALLED" - if that team has a decent coach and ran an average scout/prep practice, they'd know to look at the Mark Thomas suit for A HINT of what we might try to run - might be a clue to why so many shot clock violations when our offense completely stalls. par·a·graph ˈperəˌɡraf/ noun noun: paragraph; plural noun: paragraphs 1. a distinct section of a piece of writing, usually dealing with a single theme and indicated by a new line, indentation, or numbering. synonyms: section, subdivision, part, subsection, division, portion, segment, passage
Excellent point - my bad - contributing factors: a) "fluffer" attacking a "hater" whom I highly respect b) fatigue following a grueling 1 1/2 hour spin class
c) an excellent, albeit shared, bottle of Chianti from a vineyard not far from Siena, Italy d) full bladder created by b) and c) above e) "fluffer" comparing JP's coaching style to that of any other college basketball coach
Happy Holidays! Hoping Santa will bring me Grammarly Premium.....
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 9:31:42 GMT -5
Who cares it’s message board not a doctoral dissertation. You'll never get an A in my class with that kind of attitude young man.
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Post by SaintsFan on Dec 22, 2017 10:41:40 GMT -5
I think making them work on defense deep into the shot clock, broke them down and got us good looks throughout the game. IF Nico gives us anything normal in the 2nd half, we win that game going away. He's the only great athlete we have and was getting to the basket pretty easily on them in the first half. That element was missing in the 2nd half. Sure, Horn shot great and kept the game within reach, and according to some we cant take that? We're only allowed to accept it when he misses all his shots? Obviously he wont shot 66% from 3 consistently, but after seeing the last 2 games, 45-50% is def within reach and will help the team going forward. i dont agree. I think this was a game at all simply because of the three point shooting. When they are raining down like that it is EXTREMELY eroding to defense as defenders start to over commit etc and stretch out to the three point line. One could argue that this was good offense but the reality is that this Siena team does not shoot threes at that kind of clip with any regularity. Luck was with Siena and they hit at a very high clip. That wont happen with regularity. My point in stating this is that for the games they dont shoot threes like this they are going to have all of the same warts that have them with three wins... and that is going to be most games. It says a LOT about recruiting that the only real athletic players on the team are Clareth who is a head case and Camper who really doesnt play and cant shoot outside of 2 ft from the rim. as for Horn... i like his effort and ive stated that from the beginning. But a non-league game where they probably didnt scout horn or much of Siena at all.... You shoot threes like that and lose ... chances are that on a regular shooting night you get wiped by the other team. I doubt highly that Horn can shoot 45-50% on the season from three. And if he did start hitting with any kind of consistency then the league defenses are going to scout accordingly.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 10:52:16 GMT -5
I think making them work on defense deep into the shot clock, broke them down and got us good looks throughout the game. IF Nico gives us anything normal in the 2nd half, we win that game going away. He's the only great athlete we have and was getting to the basket pretty easily on them in the first half. That element was missing in the 2nd half. Sure, Horn shot great and kept the game within reach, and according to some we cant take that? We're only allowed to accept it when he misses all his shots? Obviously he wont shot 66% from 3 consistently, but after seeing the last 2 games, 45-50% is def within reach and will help the team going forward. i dont agree. I think this was a game at all simply because of the three point shooting. When they are raining down like that it is EXTREMELY eroding to defense as defenders start to over commit etc and stretch out to the three point line. One could argue that this was good offense but the reality is that this Siena team does not shoot threes at that kind of clip with any regularity. Luck was with Siena and they hit at a very high clip. That wont happen with regularity. My point in stating this is that for the games they dont shoot threes like this they are going to have all of the same warts that have them with three wins... and that is going to be most games. It says a LOT about recruiting that the only real athletic players on the team are Clareth who is a head case and Camper who really doesnt play and cant shoot outside of 2 ft from the rim. as for Horn... i like his effort and ive stated that from the beginning. But a non-league game where they probably didnt scout horn or much of Siena at all.... You shoot threes like that and lose ... chances are that on a regular shooting night you get wiped by the other team. I doubt highly that Horn can shoot 45-50% on the season from three. And if he did start hitting with any kind of consistency then the league defenses are going to scout accordingly. Siena guard shooting from three this year: Clareth - 38.7% Shivers - 34.3% Penn - 36.4% Richard - 44.8% Horn - 36.7% Smithen - 75% (3 of 4) Bentley - 44.4% Heurter - 50% (1 of 2) And Fisher at 31%. Siena is 2nd in the MAAC and just a sliver behind Iona at 38.5% on the year. The last 2 games helped raise them from 36% to 38% but it's not really such a fluke. This whole team is shooting jumpers well. Until Memphis, Horn was the weak link keeping them down....but we knew he was supposed to be a 40% type shooter. Yeah teams will now know they have to guard Horn...but they also have to guard the others. When Fisher is at the 5, there's typically 5 potential 3 pt shooters on the floor. It's a lot easier to get an open three like that...and even easier to open up the driving lanes with intelligent spacing.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 10:58:39 GMT -5
i dont agree. I think this was a game at all simply because of the three point shooting. When they are raining down like that it is EXTREMELY eroding to defense as defenders start to over commit etc and stretch out to the three point line. One could argue that this was good offense but the reality is that this Siena team does not shoot threes at that kind of clip with any regularity. Luck was with Siena and they hit at a very high clip. That wont happen with regularity. My point in stating this is that for the games they dont shoot threes like this they are going to have all of the same warts that have them with three wins... and that is going to be most games. It says a LOT about recruiting that the only real athletic players on the team are Clareth who is a head case and Camper who really doesnt play and cant shoot outside of 2 ft from the rim. as for Horn... i like his effort and ive stated that from the beginning. But a non-league game where they probably didnt scout horn or much of Siena at all.... You shoot threes like that and lose ... chances are that on a regular shooting night you get wiped by the other team. I doubt highly that Horn can shoot 45-50% on the season from three. And if he did start hitting with any kind of consistency then the league defenses are going to scout accordingly. Siena guard shooting from three this year: Clareth - 38.7% Shivers - 34.3% Penn - 36.4% Richard - 44.8% Horn - 36.7% Smithen - 75% (3 of 4) Bentley - 44.4% Heurter - 50% (1 of 2) And Fisher at 31%. Siena is 2nd in the MAAC and just a sliver behind Iona at 38.5% on the year. The last 2 games helped raise them from 36% to 38% but it's not really such a fluke. This whole team is shooting jumpers well. Until Memphis, Horn was the weak link keeping them down....but we knew he was supposed to be a 40% type shooter. Yeah teams will now know they have to guard Horn... but they also have to guard the others. When Fisher is at the 5, there's typical 5 3 pt shooters on the floor. This is true if and only if a) they practiced well before the game, b) they are not glued to the bench, and c) DRUM ROLL PLEASE - they are on the floor at the same time like in a FOUR guard offense (and if JP doesn't have one of them playing a pseudo 5 to kick it out to Fisher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
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Post by Deleted on Dec 22, 2017 11:04:21 GMT -5
This is true if and only if a) they practiced well before the game, b) they are not glued to the bench, and c) DRUM ROLL PLEASE - they are on the floor at the same time like in a FOUR guard offense (and if JP doesn't have one of them playing a pseudo 5 to kick it out to Fisher!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) Hey, I didn't say Jimmy couldn't still mess it up. Just saying that I don't think the 3 pt skill and the team's ability to get open shots is a player issue. I think this team can really shoot. The real problem is they play for the one coach in the league who makes 3's the least important aspect of an offense and is not used to coaching an Iona/Warriors style team. This year Jimmy is a bit like a charioteer holding back his horses.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2017 12:06:11 GMT -5
And Penn cant defend without fouling That's a joke right? Coming from the Mom of the player that fouled more than anyone in NCAA history?! Why are you bringing that up? Lol Lavon was defensive player of the year senior year. He overcame his foul troubles after leading the nation in fouls his first 2 seasons. But what does this have to do with what I said about Penn?
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2017 12:07:32 GMT -5
Richard came to Siena to play the point. Tell Patsos he made a mistake then. I just reported the facts. Maybe you should try and get a job at FOX News! That would be nice. Do you have a connect that you could help me out with
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2017 12:08:51 GMT -5
And Penn cant defend without fouling A tendency you are only TOO FAMILIAR with... Why would you say that? And what does it matter? lol
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2017 12:11:26 GMT -5
There is little TRUST when he has to look at the HC/bench to start almost every offensive possession. Give me a friggin break. TRUST is more than just putting him out there for almost the entire game. The trust is putting him out there for 40.mins no.matter how good or bad he plays. No one else gets anything close to that. It's what Wright got for 4 years.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 29, 2017 16:31:30 GMT -5
That's a joke right? Coming from the Mom of the player that fouled more than anyone in NCAA history?! Why are you bringing that up? Lol Lavon was defensive player of the year senior year. He overcame his foul troubles after leading the nation in fouls his first 2 seasons. But what does this have to do with what I said about Penn? You cant find the irony in it that you, of all people, would disparage a kid for, "not being able to defend without fouling?" I wouldnt say a word if you had ripped LeLavon for LEADING THE COUNTRY IN FOULING when he did it. I do believe he ended his career as the player with the most fouls in the history of the NCAA's. I'm sure we can look it up, but in the meantime continue to rip Penn on a daily basis because he's not a Baltimore kid.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 29, 2017 16:34:12 GMT -5
There is little TRUST when he has to look at the HC/bench to start almost every offensive possession. Give me a friggin break. TRUST is more than just putting him out there for almost the entire game. It's what Wright got for 4 years. And thats where the real hatred for this kid comes from. He reminds you of Wright. Now it all makes sense. Wright got more rope than LeLavon and it pisses you off that this kid has the same freedom. Either way, he's clearly the 2nd best player on our team. Everyone can see that except you.
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