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Post by rickyp on Dec 19, 2017 15:47:45 GMT -5
You have about three or more shooters but never run them off screens.What a waste.ðŸ˜ðŸ˜žðŸ’”👎➖
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 19, 2017 16:46:34 GMT -5
Since you brought me in to this I will comment. long rebounds come from alot of 3's ..the small guards run those down. They are more like loose balls. So after playing 40 mins per game Penn should be able to grab a bunch of them after the bigs box out. How come Richard isn't grabbing all those easy boards? Or are all these special rebounding 'plays' designed only for Penn... Because he plays half as much as Penn and out of positon. Put Penn at the 2g for short spurts and see how he does
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 19, 2017 16:51:08 GMT -5
[quote author=" playerparentcoach" Richard is a better player and everyone knows that. Jimmy doesn’t know it, the staff doesn’t know it and neither do the vast majority of the fans. [/quote] The staff does not care that Richard is better. Richard got his position changed to play Penn 40 mins at the 1 because thats all he can do. Staff also said Friday was out of shape and Prince was playing while Friday sat. Everyone saw vs HM team that Friday is in better shape than Oduro. Friday is also more ready. But Patsos recruited over them both. Add Smithen and you have a big mess. All so you can play unproven freshmen over vets
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 19, 2017 16:53:19 GMT -5
How come Richard isn't grabbing all those easy boards? Or are all these special rebounding 'plays' designed only for Penn... Actually if you have watched the games, many for Romans' rebounds come from under the basket and in the paint. Yes he goes in an steals them from the bigs after they box out. I can make a video showing you this. Small guards do it all the time. On every level
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 19, 2017 16:57:54 GMT -5
Insoles & cortisone shots will fix the issue! He’s too big for excuses! Exactly and that's all it is an excuse to explain his poor performance lately, it's pathetic. Truth is his conditioning sucks, which affects everything else. Get in shape or take a seat. But we were told Friday was out of shape and thats why he did not play in Canads. I called that BS after if was said. It was just an excuse to give Prince all those mins and give Froday nothing. Cat is out the bag now 15 and 15 is more than a solid game.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 16:59:15 GMT -5
How come Richard isn't grabbing all those easy boards? Or are all these special rebounding 'plays' designed only for Penn... Because he plays half as much as Penn and out of positon. Put Penn at the 2g for short spurts and see how he does Ha. You're so stubborn. You will keep playing that violin even while the ships sinking, continue playing after it's sunk, and won't stop even after you've already drowned. If normalized for the same minutes Penn would still be averaging 2.1 more rebounds per game than Richard. It has nothing to do with position. Penn is a better rebounder. Period. And he always has been. Richard averaged like 2.4 rebounds a game his last full year in high school. Penn averaged 6.1. All you're seeing is a difference in energy level. Penn has a higher one. That's it. End of story.
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Post by Quackman on Dec 19, 2017 17:09:51 GMT -5
Exactly and that's all it is an excuse to explain his poor performance lately, it's pathetic. Truth is his conditioning sucks, which affects everything else. Get in shape or take a seat. But we were told Friday was out of shape and thats why he did not play in Canads. I called that BS after if was said. It was just an excuse to give Prince all those mins and give Froday nothing. Cat is out the bag now 15 and 15 is more than a solid game. I don't usually get involved in these but outside of that one game, what has Friday showed that makes anyone think he is better than the other options? I haven't see anything in the games (outside of Louisville) that makes me think he is better than Oduro or Fisher.
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Post by $cott on Dec 19, 2017 17:15:57 GMT -5
But we were told Friday was out of shape and thats why he did not play in Canads. I called that BS after if was said. It was just an excuse to give Prince all those mins and give Froday nothing. Cat is out the bag now 15 and 15 is more than a solid game. I don't usually get involved in these but outside of that one game, what has Friday showed that makes anyone think he is better than the other options? I haven't see anything in the games (outside of Louisville) that makes me think he is better than Oduro or Fisher. Friday does have a 17.2 Player Efficiency Rating compared to 8.5 for Oduro. What is funny is Friday is second on the team to Smithen (20.2) who has also been buried on the bench.
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Post by Quackman on Dec 19, 2017 17:21:58 GMT -5
Because he plays half as much as Penn and out of positon. Put Penn at the 2g for short spurts and see how he does Ha. You're so stubborn. You will keep playing that violin even while the ships sinking, continue playing after it's sunk, and won't stop even after you've already drowned. If normalized for the same minutes Penn would still be averaging 2.1 more rebounds per game than Richard. It has nothing to do with position. Penn is a better rebounder. Period. And he always has been. Richard averaged like 2.4 rebounds a game his last full year in high school. Penn averaged 6.1. All you're seeing is a difference in energy level. Penn has a higher one. That's it. End of story. A more telling stat, to me, is that Richard has a negative A/TO (.79) ratio for his career compared to Penn @ 1.63. I don't doubt that Richard was recruited as a point guard but there is a better option on the team in Penn. Richard needs to figure out what he can do to get on the floor more. And, I don't necessarily believe it is a negative that a guy can play one position ... especially if he excels at that position. Check out Penn's stats through 11 games and compare to Moore and Wright's freshman years. Moore and Wright had more assists/steals but he beats them both in every other category. (Scoring, rebounding and all 3 shooting % stats) I am not saying that Penn is at Moore or Wright's level ... that is something better judged at the end of a career. Just saying he has had a pretty solid start to his career.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2017 17:31:33 GMT -5
Ha. You're so stubborn. You will keep playing that violin even while the ships sinking, continue playing after it's sunk, and won't stop even after you've already drowned. If normalized for the same minutes Penn would still be averaging 2.1 more rebounds per game than Richard. It has nothing to do with position. Penn is a better rebounder. Period. And he always has been. Richard averaged like 2.4 rebounds a game his last full year in high school. Penn averaged 6.1. All you're seeing is a difference in energy level. Penn has a higher one. That's it. End of story. A more telling stat, to me, is that Richard has a negative A/TO (.79) ratio for his career compared to Penn @ 1.63. I don't doubt that Richard was recruited as a point guard but there is a better option on the team in Penn. Richard needs to figure out what he can do to get on the floor more. And, I don't necessarily believe it is a negative that a guy can play one position ... especially if he excels at that position. Check out Penn's stats through 11 games and compare to Moore and Wright's freshman years. Moore and Wright had more assists/steals but he beats them both in every other category. (Scoring, rebounding and all 3 shooting % stats) I am not saying that Penn is at Moore or Wright's level ... that is something better judged at the end of a career. Just saying he has had a pretty solid start to his career. Also, Richard has never been a ballhawk at any level and he doesn't get to the FT line very much. Penn does both. He's always gotten to the line a lot. He has a certain knack for it. It's the primary reason he scores so many points on so few shots. That's why he's currently the most efficient scorer on this team.
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Post by Quackman on Dec 19, 2017 17:33:08 GMT -5
I don't usually get involved in these but outside of that one game, what has Friday showed that makes anyone think he is better than the other options? I haven't see anything in the games (outside of Louisville) that makes me think he is better than Oduro or Fisher. Friday does have a 17.2 Player Efficiency Rating compared to 8.5 for Oduro. What is funny is Friday is second on the team to Smithen (20.2) who has also been buried on the bench. Yeah, not a big fan of that rating system. According to Hollinger, Nick Ward is the best player in the NCAA, enough said.
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Post by $cott on Dec 19, 2017 17:41:52 GMT -5
Friday does have a 17.2 Player Efficiency Rating compared to 8.5 for Oduro. What is funny is Friday is second on the team to Smithen (20.2) who has also been buried on the bench. Yeah, not a big fan of that rating system. According to Hollinger, Nick Ward is the best player in the NCAA, enough said. You are confusing best player and most efficient player. A big man that shoots a high percentage in limited minutes is extremely efficient, definitely doesn't mean he's the best player. The best player is playing way more minutes and forced to take low percentage shots while the shot clock is winding down so won't be as efficient. It is a much more useful tool for comparing players on the same team playing the same position.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 19, 2017 18:47:30 GMT -5
Because he plays half as much as Penn and out of positon. Put Penn at the 2g for short spurts and see how he does Ha. You're so stubborn. You will keep playing that violin even while the ships sinking, continue playing after it's sunk, and won't stop even after you've already drowned. If normalized for the same minutes Penn would still be averaging 2.1 more rebounds per game than Richard. It has nothing to do with position. Penn is a better rebounder. Period. And he always has been. Richard averaged like 2.4 rebounds a game his last full year in high school. Penn averaged 6.1. All you're seeing is a difference in energy level. Penn has a higher one. That's it. End of story. I will quit when you do. Penn plays 40 min per game at the point. I dont believe that helps the team be tge best it could be. I have given my reasons. End of story
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 19, 2017 18:50:18 GMT -5
Is there any other poster out here that thinks Richard is a better PG than Penn? Anyone besides PPC? Because she uses the term,"everybody knows" a lot for not having any other supporters.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 19, 2017 18:51:34 GMT -5
A more telling stat, to me, is that Richard has a negative A/TO (.79) ratio for his career compared to Penn @ 1.63. I don't doubt that Richard was recruited as a point guard but there is a better option on the team in Penn. Richard needs to figure out what he can do to get on the floor more. And, I don't necessarily believe it is a negative that a guy can play one position ... especially if he excels at that position. Check out Penn's stats through 11 games and compare to Moore and Wright's freshman years. Moore and Wright had more assists/steals but he beats them both in every other category. (Scoring, rebounding and all 3 shooting % stats) I am not saying that Penn is at Moore or Wright's level ... that is something better judged at the end of a career. Just saying he has had a pretty solid start to his career. Also, Richard has never been a ballhawk at any level and he doesn't get to the FT line very much. Penn does both. He's always gotten to the line a lot. He has a certain knack for it. It's the primary reason he scores so many points on so few shots. That's why he's currently the most efficient scorer on this team. Penn gets to the FT line because he holds on to the ball to get fouled. He also forces drives and takes bad shots to get fouled. He is allowed to take bad shots and stay in the game. Unlike anyone else on the team
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