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Post by MTS on Sept 3, 2017 9:05:39 GMT -5
Shivers MRI on Thur....doesn't sound optimistic. Could be torn MCL. Camper comes back Oct 20th. Might be forced into mix if Shivers is out for the year. From my quick read on MCL tears, it looks like there are 3 levels. Grade 1 (small tear) is only a few weeks to a month recovery time. Grade 2 (most common-partial tear) is a 2-3 month recovery time, grade 3 (full tear/rupture) is a 6 month or possibly more recovery time. Hopefully the scan comes back clean or one of the lower grades and he can come back for the start season or at least conference play. If not, we'll definitely miss him. Yeah let's see what the MRI says. But if he's out for the season that's a big blow. The kid has potential and we've been hearing about a big sophomore jump he was about to take. Let's hope that he misses as little time as possible! |
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Post by SIENA1971 on Sept 3, 2017 13:38:01 GMT -5
Wonder if being on a 12 month training regimen is leading to more injuries among athletes ... body has no time to rest ... I just can't recall Siena having these number of injuries in the past as during the last 10 years
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Post by playerparentcoach on Sept 4, 2017 3:16:03 GMT -5
There are so many serious injuries at every level around the country. Def more than anyone is comfortable with. I think it has something to do with basketball players just playing basketball all their life. The multisport athlete is gone. There is something to be said for balancing the work load on a growing body
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 6:43:52 GMT -5
If Shivers is lost for the season, I think this buys JP another year at the helm.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Sept 4, 2017 8:27:10 GMT -5
If Shivers is lost for the season, I think this buys JP another year at the helm. LOL....MTS explosion in, 3, 2, 1.... |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 8:37:06 GMT -5
If Shivers is lost for the season, I think this buys JP another year at the helm. LOL....MTS explosion in, 3, 2, 1.... I'm not saying that for shock value. I believe he'll get sympathy and another year. |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Sept 4, 2017 9:26:12 GMT -5
LOL....MTS explosion in, 3, 2, 1.... I'm not saying that for shock value. I believe he'll get sympathy and another year. I was on record a few months ago saying the only way he gets fired is if we have a single digit win season. The '18-'19 season should be a good one. |
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Post by thebaltimorebullett on Sept 4, 2017 9:33:55 GMT -5
This is where you do NOT put "culture seeing" over basketball. This is not sociology class it's about doing the right thing for the team - winning games
it is refreshing to see someone take themselves so seriously. like all the other students at siena college getting an education and learning to grow as a young adult is the task at hand.
this request just in from new hall - could you type in capitols so we can laugh harder, and let em know we are gonna win plenty of games just for you
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Post by Tony on Sept 4, 2017 9:34:00 GMT -5
I'm not saying that for shock value. I believe he'll get sympathy and another year. I was on record a few months ago saying the only way he gets fired is if we have a single digit win season. The '18-'19 season should be a good one. If we win 14 games and attendance “tanks” he will be fired. Honestly unless team gets off to fast start, I don’t see him surviving past next March. But hey who knows he isn’t stinky Jimmy, he has a way of over achieving in years nothing is expected of him |
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Post by Tony on Sept 4, 2017 9:36:22 GMT -5
LOL....MTS explosion in, 3, 2, 1.... I'm not saying that for shock value. I believe he'll get sympathy and another year. I know much is expected from Shivers- but what does it say about Siena program if you can't overcome the loss of a player that avg 4 ppg last season. Your program has to be stronger than that - at least one would think..LOL |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 4, 2017 9:46:41 GMT -5
I'm not saying that for shock value. I believe he'll get sympathy and another year. I know much is expected from Shivers- but what does it say about Siena program if you can't overcome the loss of a player that avg 4 ppg last season. Your program has to be stronger than that - at least one would think..LOL It says it all. |
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Post by MTS on Sept 4, 2017 9:57:23 GMT -5
I'm not saying that for shock value. I believe he'll get sympathy and another year. I know much is expected from Shivers- but what does it say about Siena program if you can't overcome the loss of a player that avg 4 ppg last season. Your program has to be stronger than that - at least one would think..LOL Bingo. He gets no sympathy - it's a bottom line business. I think Shivers is going to be pretty good but if you can't overcome one guy who was a fringe player a year ago you did not do your job. This is what happens when you give 'ships out to Paige, Cam, WB...he struck out on all of them and has no senior class. Now we desperately need a sophomore who averaged 4 PPG a game next year? Sorry maybe if it was Nico not Shivers... HJ says 18-19 will be real good...why should we believe it? Both times Jimmy had expectations 14-15 and last year he shit the bed. Winning season this year or he's done...Siena will feel it in the wallet the only way they will see the light. |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Sept 4, 2017 9:59:06 GMT -5
So you guys don't think we had an unusual situation having 4 senior starters that combined for close to 6000 points, has something to do with a "4ppg" kid stepping into a prominent role?
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Post by Tony on Sept 4, 2017 10:13:47 GMT -5
So you guys don't think we had an unusual situation having 4 senior starters that combined for close to 6000 points, has something to do with a "4ppg" kid stepping into a prominent role? Where are the Juniors and Seniors?? Oh thats right Jimmy Paige, Mike Wolfe, Cam Gottfried. Kenny Wormley, Willem Brandwijk, Kinnon Larose - Sorry Not buying it ... Besides with all that playing time available Jimmy and staff should have landed dynamite freshmen class- eventually you just run out of excuses and have to perform |
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Post by mjs72 on Sept 4, 2017 10:27:50 GMT -5
I know much is expected from Shivers- but what does it say about Siena program if you can't overcome the loss of a player that avg 4 ppg last season. Your program has to be stronger than that - at least one would think..LOL Bingo. He gets no sympathy - it's a bottom line business. I think Shivers is going to be pretty good but if you can't overcome one guy who was a fringe player a year ago you did not do your job. This is what happens when you give 'ships out to Paige, Cam, WB...he struck out on all of them and has no senior class. Now we desperately need a sophomore who averaged 4 PPG a game next year? Sorry maybe if it was Nico not Shivers... HJ says 18-19 will be real good...why should we believe it? Both times Jimmy had expectations 14-15 and last year he shit the bed. Winning season this year or he's done...Siena will feel it in the wallet the only way they will see the light. A "fringe player" wha was a starter for a lot of games. |
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