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Post by rickyp on Aug 2, 2017 12:38:26 GMT -5
Real good listen it does seems like the coaches kind of know where there at with the kids they just have to see how it works in games the Canada trip will really be good for this team.The comparisons he had for the freshman guards is telling if look at those players but just a comparison maurice cheeks steady pg good defensively a floor general quiet but feisty player John bagley not true point kind of combo guard big strong kind of what you hear about Horn
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Post by OneIndian on Aug 2, 2017 12:49:02 GMT -5
That is ridiculous. He's on the roster and if he has developed (which he has from what I've been told by people who have been at practices) and can be a serviceable post player than he should play. This is also true but it's really hard to believe this young man has improved enough in 5 months to justify any playing time. I was hoping for good things when he was recruited especially because he's such a fine young man. It was painful watching him on the court last year. I really would like to see the kid succeed but he has to earn the minutes. Hopefully a move to the post will help but he really needs to show he can play defense and rebound. Otherwise if he can't be productive he is useless and shouldn't get off the bench. If he's having a year like last year and Rex continues to play him......There is something very wrong.
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Post by SaintsFan on Aug 2, 2017 13:50:15 GMT -5
The first 10 were about Maryland so I assume the total podcast was about 12 minutes or so. The Podcast was 28 1/2 minutes long (watch the little green bar at the bottom of the screen). The first 12 minutes or so were not really Siena basketball related but did give a little more insight into the coach's mind and thought process, but then, if you have an agenda none of that matters. conversely... i listen to what someone says and then measure that against what they actually do, and of course the end results to judge. No agenda other than seeking quality and success. Rarely pay attention to too much of anyone says. Watch the actions and results.
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Post by mjs72 on Aug 2, 2017 13:53:04 GMT -5
One, Jimmy had Evan sit pine for the last month of the season so he noticed it wasn't working. But this year, if reports are true that Sammy came into camp in the same shape he was last season, Fisher may be the only option at the 5. Hopefully as a backup to Prince. Josh Duell didn't have much of a leap but made up for it with positional awareness and a mean steak under the boards. Hopefully Evan can do that. I love the kid's attitude. Going from a guy getting a lot of minutes to a DNP, I didn't see him mooping on the bench.
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Post by SaintsFan on Aug 2, 2017 13:55:07 GMT -5
Problem is Rex didn't do him any favors playing him on the wing, it exposed and magnified every weakness this kid has, if he has any shot it's on the block. He has size and strength, I want to see him use it, so far not so much! Well, I can tell you for a fact that he is a center now and will be played on the block when he plays. From what I've been told, he has improved. I'm hoping to get over there soon to take a look at the team from my own eyes, but I'm hearing he has made strides and looks a lot more comfortable. hopefully this is the case but often has been the reality that it is pretty easy to look good playing against your own ~.500 team. How do you look playing against good teams is a better measuring stick. It has been EXTREMELY difficult to judge the improvement of siena players by them playing intra-squad scrimmages.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 2, 2017 13:56:13 GMT -5
I've been as hard on Fisher as anyone. Even still, if he rebounds and defends, I have no problem with him playing...especially as a backup center.
It's just that he hasn't done those things yet.
For the record, he's also managed a serviceable 44% from 2 pt range on offense. If he stays in the paint and plays legit D for once...it's fine.
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Post by Quackman on Aug 2, 2017 14:11:35 GMT -5
Kids develop and most improve throughout their careers. While not a guy you want to build around, if Fisher has earned the time in practice, I am all for giving him minutes.
If JP is intent on playing a smaller, quicker lineup, I hope that they are going to go back to playing a more aggressive pressing defense.
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Post by diamonddog on Aug 2, 2017 16:20:43 GMT -5
I saw Friday at an Albany Dutchmen game, it looks like he lost some weight from what I saw.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 2, 2017 18:04:02 GMT -5
I saw Friday at an Albany Dutchmen game, it looks like he lost some weight from what I saw. I have been told that he has lost weight (like Fisher did last offseason) but has very little stamina and can't play more than a few minutes at a time without getting too gassed to be productive.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Aug 2, 2017 21:03:16 GMT -5
I saw Friday at an Albany Dutchmen game, it looks like he lost some weight from what I saw. I have been told that he has lost weight (like Fisher did last offseason) but has very little stamina and can't play more than a few minutes at a time without getting too gassed to be productive. Exactly. Losing weight doesn't always = good shape. It's a start, but he needs to put the work in. Because if he does he can be a very good big man in this league down the road.
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Post by rickyp on Aug 2, 2017 21:10:05 GMT -5
Sometimes kids don't realize how good they can be.But if your never in top playing shape you'll never know your own potential.The word I could easily become I'm for example i could be in better shape i could be the starter to I'm in good shape and I'm the starter come on seize the moment.sorry pep talk😃
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Post by Tony on Aug 3, 2017 4:58:37 GMT -5
One, Jimmy had Evan sit pine for the last month of the season so he noticed it wasn't working. But this year, if reports are true that Sammy came into camp in the same shape he was last season, Fisher may be the only option at the 5. Hopefully as a backup to Prince. Josh Duell didn't have much of a leap but made up for it with positional awareness and a mean steak under the boards. Hopefully Evan can do that. I love the kid's attitude. Going from a guy getting a lot of minutes to a DNP, I didn't see him mooping on the bench. Yeah I’m OK with that as well- as long as EF knows his role, defend and rebound. Not taking defended 3 point shots. Kid can shoot but takes a day and half to get his shot off. Worst thing that could have happened to him last year was hitting 6 or 7 three pointers vs a D2 team. EF has size to be a serviceable big man at MAAC level if he plays within himself. If so I see no problem with 5/10 min a game in a backup role
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Post by $cott on Aug 3, 2017 9:14:42 GMT -5
One, Jimmy had Evan sit pine for the last month of the season so he noticed it wasn't working. But this year, if reports are true that Sammy came into camp in the same shape he was last season, Fisher may be the only option at the 5. Hopefully as a backup to Prince. Josh Duell didn't have much of a leap but made up for it with positional awareness and a mean steak under the boards. Hopefully Evan can do that. I love the kid's attitude. Going from a guy getting a lot of minutes to a DNP, I didn't see him mooping on the bench. Yeah I’m OK with that as well- as long as EF knows his role, defend and rebound. Not taking defended 3 point shots. Kid can shoot but takes a day and half to get his shot off. Worst thing that could have happened to him last year was hitting 6 or 7 three pointers vs a D2 team. EF has size to be a serviceable big man at MAAC level if he plays within himself. If so I see no problem with 5/10 min a game in a backup role Not sure I am good with that. Only thing the kid adds is that he's a big that can hit the 3. Now I certainly don't want him taking contested 3's but if he's going to be counted on to only defend and rebound and doesn't have the green light to shoot some 3's then I see no point in him ever being on the court. Obviously if he shoots 5 for 30 again there is no place for him regardless but he was 8 for 14 as a freshman and did have that big game in the scrimmage so we know he is capable.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 3, 2017 9:26:33 GMT -5
Yeah I’m OK with that as well- as long as EF knows his role, defend and rebound. Not taking defended 3 point shots. Kid can shoot but takes a day and half to get his shot off. Worst thing that could have happened to him last year was hitting 6 or 7 three pointers vs a D2 team. EF has size to be a serviceable big man at MAAC level if he plays within himself. If so I see no problem with 5/10 min a game in a backup role Not sure I am good with that. Only thing the kid adds is that he's a big that can hit the 3. Now I certainly don't want him taking contested 3's but if he's going to be counted on to only defend and rebound and doesn't have the green light to shoot some 3's then I see no point in him ever being on the court. Obviously if he shoots 5 for 30 again there is no place for him regardless but he was 8 for 14 as a freshman and did have that big game in the scrimmage so we know he is capable. From what I was told he has completely changed his game. If he gets an open 3 off of pick and pop or something like that he will take it, but he will not be running around the 3 point arc. He will be playing from the post. He has worked on a little hook shot and has the size and strength to rebound well in the MAAC. He isn't going to be great defensively but none of our centers are to be quite honest. Fisher is also the vocal leader of the team.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Aug 3, 2017 10:10:57 GMT -5
The coach decides not you. I heard the coach say it. Now we wait for the results Of course he does, and I told you all this weeks ago, and you told me I was wrong. Now the whole board sees you're the one that was wrong. I get that it hurts, but it's undeniable Actually it proves my point. I said Richard was recruited to play the point and his position was changed after he signed. So I was correct that he was recruited over. You just refuse to admit the facts.
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