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Post by billmurray on Feb 19, 2017 12:25:33 GMT -5
Except Albany can't HALF fill their current 4500 arena, but you keep going with that theory 😜......and I love how 6800 is a "bad" night of attendance in the MAAC! 😝😝 Don't be naive. If Albany ever decided to take over the tuc what do you think will happen...the fans attending the Siena games now will be attending the Albany games instead duh. Your starting to attend Albany games yourself so don't say it can't happen. Besides, I never said 6,850 was "bad", just not great. Last year 8k showed up for Marist let's see what happens this year. If UA joined the CAA for basketball and was competitive they would draw well at the SEFCU, maybe even get close to the facility's capacity.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 19, 2017 12:28:59 GMT -5
We can agree to disagree and I'm not saying it will definitely happen or in the next few years but if Albany had the desire to move up in conference who's to say they don't work out a deal to move to the tuc and grab the 2k walk up that we used to get. They average 3,400 now (up 800 from previous year) that's 5,300. Suddenly not to far off from the Siena crowds. Already Siena fans are attending ualbany games. All I'm saying is something needs to change if Siena wants to rebuild interest in the program. Only because they had Siena at home this year. Once again if you take out the Siena, Vermont and Stonybrook games they're home attendance is pathetic/disapointing. They can't even get the students to attend their games. They should do better but for some confounding reason they don't. Correct I was looking at 3,400 for 2015. This year back to 2,500 it seems, that is pathetic.
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Post by MTS on Feb 19, 2017 12:37:16 GMT -5
All this grief after a win. Sun is out ;temperatures on the rise in the Capital District; but those on this venue will say the Blizzard of'88 came in March. For you youngsters 1888. Speaking of 1988 - I was only a little kid (have no memory of it) but I wonder what this board would have been like in March of 1988 after losing to a 4 win New Hampshire team in the NAC tournament as a #1 seed? And then 12 months later winning on a miracle shot against BU before stunning Stanford?
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Post by musicman on Feb 19, 2017 12:43:20 GMT -5
At some time in the future the economic impact of continually putting an inferior product on the floor will become an issue ... if basketball can't cover its costs Siena may need to reconsider the division they're playing in ... over the upcoming decade there is going to be a shakeup on many college campuses that has nothing to do w athletics excellent point. I fear for the survival of many private colleges in this country. The discussion about the survival of college sports is miniscule in comparison to the big picture involving higher education.
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Post by musicman on Feb 19, 2017 12:59:35 GMT -5
UA needs to consistently even come close to selling out their own gym before that's ever an issue. No offense but that's the same kind of thinking as "Albany will never be d1" or "Albany will never beat Siena" or "Albany will never play a game against siena at sefcu". How many former or current Siena Siena season ticket holders bought season tickets for the Great Danes this year, 100, 200?. Let's see how many of those renew even though Siena's not playing. I think most of us on here would agree that UA has done a better job of promoting their product. And their product is certainly something attractive that a sports fan can enjoy. Although many on here don't particularly care for Roger Wyland, I think Siena made a mistake in not keeping his services. The publicity UAlbany gets from his position with them as well as his switch to the ESPN sports radio channel has been a boon for UAlbany. The exposure priceless.
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Post by musicman on Feb 19, 2017 13:11:53 GMT -5
Don't be naive. If Albany ever decided to take over the tuc what do you think will happen...the fans attending the Siena games now will be attending the Albany games instead duh. Your starting to attend Albany games yourself so don't say it can't happen. Besides, I never said 6,850 was "bad", just not great. Last year 8k showed up for Marist let's see what happens this year. Nope Some good points here. I understand that UA has a large commuter number in their student body. It blows me away that a school with 25,000 students doesn't draw squat when taking into account how huge the school is. DI basketball and that number of students? It's pathetic!
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Post by psycholojets on Feb 19, 2017 13:14:39 GMT -5
Apathy is bad but I have trouble with tendency of some to put out the worst potential outcome treat it like it has already occurred and then pretend their outrage is justified.
For example...What If...none of the freshman take the sophomore leap and the incoming freshman class are all stiffs who belong in D2. What If we only win like three games all year and the TUC attendance drops to 3,000 a game...then what? How can we stop this carnage to our beloved saints?
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Post by psycholojets on Feb 19, 2017 13:22:08 GMT -5
Admittedly this is not isolated to the saints...the New York papers start in April what will happen when Geno Smith throws for interceptions in a game in September? The papers in Boston are discussing who will replace John Farrel when the team starts 5 and 10 out of the gate. That after the Red Sox won the AL East last year.
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 19, 2017 13:23:16 GMT -5
Part of UAs issue is the AE don't think people are interested in UMBC Hartford Binghamton Me etc...
Move to the CAA and attendance probably increases.
They've done a pretty good job attendance wise with the football program.
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Post by hockeyguy on Feb 19, 2017 13:47:39 GMT -5
Part of UAs issue is the AE don't think people are interested in UMBC Hartford Binghamton Me etc... Move to the CAA and attendance probably increases. They've done a pretty good job attendance wise with the football program. Of the 11 D1 football programs in NYS, UA comes in 8th in attendance in 2015 according to the NCAA website, beating Colgate, Marist and Wagner. All significantly smaller schools than the Danes. I would not call that "a pretty good job".
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Post by gorvy on Feb 19, 2017 14:01:39 GMT -5
Apathy is bad but I have trouble with tendency of some to put out the worst potential outcome treat it like it has already occurred and then pretend their outrage is justified. For example...What If...none of the freshman take the sophomore leap and the incoming freshman class are all stiffs who belong in D2. What If we only win like three games all year and the TUC attendance drops to 3,000 a game...then what? How can we stop this carnage to our beloved saints? But you have to admit attendance is dropping right? Sent from my SM-G900P using proboards
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 19, 2017 14:58:03 GMT -5
Part of UAs issue is the AE don't think people are interested in UMBC Hartford Binghamton Me etc... Move to the CAA and attendance probably increases. They've done a pretty good job attendance wise with the football program. Of the 11 D1 football programs in NYS, UA comes in 8th in attendance in 2015 according to the NCAA website, beating Colgate, Marist and Wagner. All significantly smaller schools than the Danes. I would not call that "a pretty good job". It'll take a bit to get the football program going, they are relatively new to the CAA, new to recruiting at that level and having the newer stadium. I went to a few games this year where Ford Field was at at or near capacity. Are they Syr or UB no but I definitely saw interest from the community at least at the games I attended. If the basketball team goes CAA and Siena continues to tank I could see UA catching Siena in attendance. You can already see attendance dropping at the TU with all the no shows. Look around ... at most games attendance (people actually showing) looks to be substantially less than what Fran was drawing.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 19, 2017 15:27:11 GMT -5
Of the 11 D1 football programs in NYS, UA comes in 8th in attendance in 2015 according to the NCAA website, beating Colgate, Marist and Wagner. All significantly smaller schools than the Danes. I would not call that "a pretty good job". It'll take a bit to get the football program going, they are relatively new to the CAA, new to recruiting at that level and having the newer stadium. I went to a few games this year where Ford Field was at at or near capacity. Are they Syr or UB no but I definitely saw increased interest from the community this year. If the basketball team goes CAA and Siena continues to tank I could see UA catching Siena in attendance. You can already see attendance dropping at the TU with all the no shows. Look around ... at most games attendance (people actually showing) looks to be substantially less than what Fran was drawing. Careful you used the f word, f comparisons aren't welcome here since his accomplishments were a "miracle".
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Post by hockeyguy on Feb 19, 2017 22:52:41 GMT -5
I will take a little different look at it, and this is simply my opinion and in no way meant to be demeaning to any group or generation. When I was growing up Little League Baseball, Pop Warner Football and PeeWee Hockey were flourishing. You actually had to try-out to make a team. Today, District 14 LL is a shadow of itself, I don't know if they still even play PopWarner anymore (I am out of the area so don't have much information)and youth hockey is way down in participation. Why does this matter and why is this relevant? If you don't play as a kid you are less likely to be as engaged in rooting for your school when you are college student unless it is "a social event". Just take a look at student attendance at UA or Siena or RPI hockey which used to sell out 5700 seats a few times every year. There even used to be "a hockey line" for three weeks to get student tickets at RPI. No more. So it is to a large degree alumni and local fans who make up support for the teams these days. Times have changed. Many of the UA students are from out of the area (I know they have commuter students, but they tend to be even less engaged)so I am skeptical that short of joining the A-10 or better UA will catch Siena in BBall attendance. Could be wrong, just one guy looking at it from a different angle.
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Post by sienahusker on Feb 19, 2017 23:02:58 GMT -5
Some good points here. I understand that UA has a large commuter number in their student body. It blows me away that a school with 25,000 students doesn't draw squat when taking into account how huge the school is. DI basketball and that number of students? It's pathetic! It has to be embarassing for them considering their recent success.
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