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Post by frombustawithlove on Nov 2, 2012 7:15:35 GMT -5
www.timesunion.com/sports/article/Siena-s-Martens-ready-to-play-4001850.php?cmpid=twitterSounds like Mitch is leaning towards him as the starter because Anosike and Silas are really both centers and it would clog up the low post on offense. We'll see how well it works out. OD's lack of either shotblocking or an away from the basket game really does cause some issues. I hope both Bisping and Silas are still heavily involved. If they are the 2nd unit, they may have more natural chemistry than the 1st unit.
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Post by albanysaint on Nov 2, 2012 7:31:17 GMT -5
I dont really know how to take this. On one hand you have Mitch's propensity to rely on experience. The other you have a player that was being hyped as the next great big man who will now play behind a guy who has been a career backup. Either Silas isnt where the insiders have stated or Mitch is making a big mistake relying on "experience".
Seems like some had accurately predicted a Martens start, no matter what, last year.
I guess we will see.
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Post by siena2003 on Nov 2, 2012 8:57:44 GMT -5
Martens is the more athletic power forward !! And looking at THIS TEAM - it might be the better fit..if Mitch intends to run alot more !
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Post by MTS on Nov 2, 2012 9:53:27 GMT -5
The old saying is it doesn't matter who starts but who finishes. Imoh should get plenty of time even if he comes off the bench. Davis Martens is talented the potential is there for him to be a really good player.
I would expect 11 players will play early in the season - by January Mitch will get it down to primarily a 9-man rotation.
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Post by frombustawithlove on Nov 2, 2012 10:28:25 GMT -5
I dont really know how to take this. On one hand you have Mitch's propensity to rely on experience. The other you have a player that was being hyped as the next great big man who will now play behind a guy who has been a career backup. Either Silas isnt where the insiders have stated or Mitch is making a big mistake relying on "experience". Seems like some had accurately predicted a Martens start, no matter what, last year. I guess we will see. I don't think it's a reflection on Silas. It's more a reflection on who plays best together. Silas and OD don't have an outside game so they'd play best with with either Bisping or Martens who can dribble drive and shoot. Martens is the more versatile defender but not the shotblocker Silas is rumored to be. Gomis has a raw outside game so he's still really a center now too. He seems a lot like Walters to me. I'd bet money that Bisping will be a better offensive player than Martens but he's inexperienced and not a great interior defender so you don't want to start him with OD who isn't a great interior defender either. Unless you just need more offense. Martens makes a lot of sense if he's finally reaching his long awaited potential but if he doesn't make his shots and continues to be turnover prone, Bisping and Silas are going to take over I think. A lot of it may depend on how well the guards shoot and if we need more offense or defense from the PF spot. |
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Post by siena2003 on Nov 2, 2012 11:07:01 GMT -5
On another note...is Poole starting ??
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Post by Quackman on Nov 2, 2012 11:21:38 GMT -5
I dont really know how to take this. On one hand you have Mitch's propensity to rely on experience. The other you have a player that was being hyped as the next great big man who will now play behind a guy who has been a career backup. Either Silas isnt where the insiders have stated or Mitch is making a big mistake relying on "experience". Seems like some had accurately predicted a Martens start, no matter what, last year. I guess we will see. I have no idea how good Martens will end of being, but in due fairness, he would have started last year and was behind 2 of best bigs Siena has ever had his first two year in the program. |
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Post by albanysaint on Nov 2, 2012 11:23:08 GMT -5
The old saying is it doesn't matter who starts but who finishes. Imoh should get plenty of time even if he comes off the bench. Davis Martens is talented the potential is there for him to be a really good player. I would expect 11 players will play early in the season - by January Mitch will get it down to primarily a 9-man rotation. I expect the rotation to be shortened up to perhaps 7 by mid season |
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Post by albanysaint on Nov 2, 2012 11:24:05 GMT -5
I dont really know how to take this. On one hand you have Mitch's propensity to rely on experience. The other you have a player that was being hyped as the next great big man who will now play behind a guy who has been a career backup. Either Silas isnt where the insiders have stated or Mitch is making a big mistake relying on "experience". Seems like some had accurately predicted a Martens start, no matter what, last year. I guess we will see. I have no idea how good Martens will end of being, but in due fairness, he would have started last year and was behind 2 of best bigs Siena has ever had his first two year in the program. but I thought Mitch was left nothing when he took over? He was left two of the best bigs in siena history? |
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Post by mrsiena on Nov 2, 2012 11:27:13 GMT -5
Davis played well in the 2nd half of the 1st game Capital District finals against James Thomas and other former college players from the area. With the more reps he gets he should duplicate or better what Walters gave us in this past years MAAC tourney.
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Post by greengold4ever on Nov 2, 2012 11:46:16 GMT -5
The old saying is it doesn't matter who starts but who finishes. Imoh should get plenty of time even if he comes off the bench. Davis Martens is talented the potential is there for him to be a really good player. I would expect 11 players will play early in the season - by January Mitch will get it down to primarily a 9-man rotation. I expect the rotation to be shortened up to perhaps 7 by mid season take that bet, you are out of your mind if you think that will happen!!!!!!!!! |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 2, 2012 12:16:08 GMT -5
I have no idea how good Martens will end of being, but in due fairness, he would have started last year and was behind 2 of best bigs Siena has ever had his first two year in the program. but I thought Mitch was left nothing when he took over? He was left two of the best bigs in siena history? No, he was left with a starting backcourt of Kyle Griffin and Kyle Downey. Fran didn't sign a good guard since CJ. And OD was hardly "great" when Mitch took over. Maybe his coaching got him there?  |
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Post by albanysaint on Nov 2, 2012 13:12:56 GMT -5
but I thought Mitch was left nothing when he took over? He was left two of the best bigs in siena history? No, he was left with a starting backcourt of Kyle Griffin and Kyle Downey. Fran didn't sign a good guard since CJ. And OD was hardly "great" when Mitch took over. Maybe his coaching got him there? yeah, he went from a 10 and 7 guy (as a sophomore) behind Rossiter to a 15 and 12 guy as the lone option. coaching? hardly. Other than the call to make sure OD touches the ball every time down the floor for 37 minutes a game. Regarding guards, three years later and we are starting one of the smallest back courts in all division 1. credit to - coaching. How many more years do you get to blame fran? two? three, four? The rest of mitch's career? Heck why not blame fran for mitch's days at fairfield as well |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Nov 2, 2012 13:37:31 GMT -5
No, he was left with a starting backcourt of Kyle Griffin and Kyle Downey. Fran didn't sign a good guard since CJ. And OD was hardly "great" when Mitch took over. Maybe his coaching got him there? yeah, he went from a 10 and 7 guy (as a sophomore) behind Rossiter to a 15 and 12 guy as the lone option. coaching? hardly. Other than the call to make sure OD touches the ball every time down the floor for 37 minutes a game. Regarding guards, three years later and we are starting one of the smallest back courts in all division 1. credit to - coaching. How many more years do you get to blame fran? two? three, four? The rest of mitch's career? Heck why not blame fran for mitch's days at fairfield as well I only focused on the year YOU mentioned ("I thought Mitch didn't inherit anyone!?"). The guards that Fran left, you refuse to address (can't blame you), and now you act like OD sat behind Rossiter his sophomore year? He started 30 of 31, and the only reason he averaged 8.9ppg/6.7rpg that year was BECAUSE he played NEXT to Rossiter, not behind him. As for blaming Fran, all I say is name me the last above average 1, 2 or 3 he bought into the program?? CJ? lol Worst senior year since Jeff Robinson. Mitch got nothing from him. Let's leave it alone. You hate Mitch, and want him gone. We get it. I just wanna see him get the opportunity to coach HIS kids for one year. This will be that year. |
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Post by albanysaint on Nov 2, 2012 13:51:53 GMT -5
three reasons to ignore the guards mitch was delt.
1-he was associate head coach. of anyone on the planet outside of fran, mitch should have known what was needed and what wasnt.
2-three years have passed
3-guards are easy to come by at the maac level. moreso than bigs. this should have been addressed long before today.
by your own admission it is mitchs team. its now or never. that is until we blame the year's results on fran 5 months from now.
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