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Post by $cott on Jan 19, 2022 10:20:08 GMT -5
Looks like 2 more teams coming in, or at least that's the plan. I know 10 teams seems attractive but in the ever changing landscape having more teams is probably the safest bet. Keeping in mind you need 7(?) teams to remain NCAA eligible. If that 7 team number is accurate AE is dangerously close to losing eligibility. AE with another departure not named NJIT could be below that magic number of 7. Adam Zagoria (@adamzagoria) Tweeted: .@maaccommish told me via Zoom the goal would be to get to 12 schools for the 2022-23 season, which would mean adding 2 new schools with the departure of Monmoth As far as I can tell the only NEC teams that aren't football members are Mt St Mary's and Farleigh Dickinson. That would in no way make the league stronger.
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Post by marshotel on Jan 19, 2022 10:22:44 GMT -5
Looks like 2 more teams coming in, or at least that's the plan. I know 10 teams seems attractive but in the ever changing landscape having more teams is probably the safest bet. Keeping in mind you need 7(?) teams to remain NCAA eligible. If that 7 team number is accurate AE is dangerously close to losing eligibility. AE with another departure not named NJIT could be below that magic number of 7. I'm making a assumption with AE, that Stony Brook is going to CAA and Hartford follows through with their move to D3. That gets the AE to 8 teams. NJIT doesn't count towards the total number, they need to have 5 years tenure to be eligble toward that number. So AE is at 7 teams.
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Post by musicman on Jan 19, 2022 12:01:56 GMT -5
If we were to add two new schools, I would love to see Hofstra be one of the schools added. With it's favorable proximity to other MAAC schools it would be a great addition. I understand they are in the CAA. Since they dropped their football program maybe it's possible they would love rivalries with schools like Iona, Fairfield, Manhattan, etc. They certainly would be saving a lot of money in transportation. With serious money concerns in DI athletics, there might be a chance the money factor could trump the CAA's higher prestige. Probably not likely but you never know.
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Post by $cott on Jan 19, 2022 12:15:10 GMT -5
If we were to add two new schools, I would love to see Hofstra be one of the schools added. With it's favorable proximity to other MAAC schools it would be a great addition. I understand they are in the CAA. Since they dropped their football program maybe it's possible they would love rivalries with schools like Iona, Fairfield, Manhattan, etc. They certainly would be saving a lot of money in transportation. With serious money concerns in DI athletics, there might be a chance the money factor could trump the CAA's higher prestige. Probably not likely but you never know. Yes, if the MAAC is hellbent on expanding and I was in charge then my first move would be to hard sell Hofstra, Drexel, and Northeastern on the CAA being a football conference and that the MAAC is a basketball conference. Outside of that I really don't see much in the way of good options to expand, would rather stay at 10.
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Post by SIENA1971 on Jan 19, 2022 15:41:04 GMT -5
If we were to add two new schools, I would love to see Hofstra be one of the schools added. With it's favorable proximity to other MAAC schools it would be a great addition. I understand they are in the CAA. Since they dropped their football program maybe it's possible they would love rivalries with schools like Iona, Fairfield, Manhattan, etc. They certainly would be saving a lot of money in transportation. With serious money concerns in DI athletics, there might be a chance the money factor could trump the CAA's higher prestige. Probably not likely but you never know. Yes, if the MAAC is hellbent on expanding and I was in charge then my first move would be to hard sell Hofstra, Drexel, and Northeastern on the CAA being a football conference and that the MAAC is a basketball conference. Outside of that I really don't see much in the way of good options to expand, would rather stay at 10. If MAAC goes to 12 would like to see two 6 team divisions- play teams twice in your division- one time for other division- 16 league games … 4 less games than current structure
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Post by MTS on Jan 19, 2022 15:42:52 GMT -5
Yes, if the MAAC is hellbent on expanding and I was in charge then my first move would be to hard sell Hofstra, Drexel, and Northeastern on the CAA being a football conference and that the MAAC is a basketball conference. Outside of that I really don't see much in the way of good options to expand, would rather stay at 10. If MAAC goes to 12 would like to see two 6 team divisions- play teams twice in your division- one time for other division- 16 league games … 4 less games than current structure Non conference games are harder to schedule. I think more leagues want 20 conference games— at least 18.
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Post by $cott on Jan 19, 2022 15:51:40 GMT -5
If MAAC goes to 12 would like to see two 6 team divisions- play teams twice in your division- one time for other division- 16 league games … 4 less games than current structure Non conference games are harder to schedule. I think more leagues want 20 conference games— at least 18. Yes, and the number of conference games divided by 2 is the floor for your number of home games. So if you have those 10 guaranteed home games then you are pretty locked in to 12-16 home games in the best and worst case. With just 8 guaranteed home games you could run into a rough scheduling year where you only wind up with 10 or 11 home games.
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Post by SIENA1971 on Jan 19, 2022 15:53:30 GMT -5
If MAAC goes to 12 would like to see two 6 team divisions- play teams twice in your division- one time for other division- 16 league games … 4 less games than current structure Non conference games are harder to schedule. I think more leagues want 20 conference games— at least 18. True but with St Bona & Albany also being yearly games … I would like a little more variety of opponents as a season ticket holder
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Post by marshotel on Jan 19, 2022 17:45:50 GMT -5
The 5-6 teams fans would want aren't coming (Northeastern, Hofstra, Drexel, LaSalle, Fordham, St Joe's). The most successful teams between NEC and Patriot will be a great get at this point. Bucknell, Holy Cross and Colgate from the Patriot League and LIU, Mt. Saint Mary's and Fairleigh Dickinson from the NEC.
If Holy Cross and Mt. Saint Mary's come in I wouldn't complain.
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Post by hankla on Jan 20, 2022 8:46:12 GMT -5
At least the MAAC no matter how many teams it has will not be inaccurately labeled like the A10 and the Big 10. I don't know offhand if there are any other conferences that can't count over two hands worth of fingers. I have too much time on my hands. Big Twelve has only ten teams and is losing two of them to SEC.
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Post by $cott on Jan 20, 2022 9:16:58 GMT -5
The 5-6 teams fans would want aren't coming (Northeastern, Hofstra, Drexel, LaSalle, Fordham, St Joe's). The most successful teams between NEC and Patriot will be a great get at this point. Bucknell, Holy Cross and Colgate from the Patriot League and LIU, Mt. Saint Mary's and Fairleigh Dickinson from the NEC. If Holy Cross and Mt. Saint Mary's come in I wouldn't complain. LaSalle, Fordham, and St Joe's would make absolutely no sense. Patriot League would be interesting but that league is so respected for their academics that I doubt any of them would see the move to the MAAC making much sense (Loyola jumped MAAC to Patriot). Assuming the non-football schools are sticking with the CAA then I think our options are going to be Mt St Mary's, FDU, and the remains of the America East. I'd rather stick at 10 unless it was Vermont that was added along with a Mt St Mary's.
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Post by marshotel on Jan 20, 2022 9:55:02 GMT -5
The 5-6 teams fans would want aren't coming (Northeastern, Hofstra, Drexel, LaSalle, Fordham, St Joe's). The most successful teams between NEC and Patriot will be a great get at this point. Bucknell, Holy Cross and Colgate from the Patriot League and LIU, Mt. Saint Mary's and Fairleigh Dickinson from the NEC. If Holy Cross and Mt. Saint Mary's come in I wouldn't complain. LaSalle, Fordham, and St Joe's would make absolutely no sense. Patriot League would be interesting but that league is so respected for their academics that I doubt any of them would see the move to the MAAC making much sense (Loyola jumped MAAC to Patriot). Assuming the non-football schools are sticking with the CAA then I think our options are going to be Mt St Mary's, FDU, and the remains of the America East. I'd rather stick at 10 unless it was Vermont that was added along with a Mt St Mary's. I'm torn standing pat at 10. For Iona and maybe a couple of other teams it will be good and open up opportunities for better OOC scheduling. Darg has openly expressed his OOC scheduling plan for Siena. Day bus trips are his ideal non-conference opponents.
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Post by $cott on Jan 20, 2022 10:17:21 GMT -5
LaSalle, Fordham, and St Joe's would make absolutely no sense. Patriot League would be interesting but that league is so respected for their academics that I doubt any of them would see the move to the MAAC making much sense (Loyola jumped MAAC to Patriot). Assuming the non-football schools are sticking with the CAA then I think our options are going to be Mt St Mary's, FDU, and the remains of the America East. I'd rather stick at 10 unless it was Vermont that was added along with a Mt St Mary's. I'm torn standing pat at 10. For Iona and maybe a couple of other teams it will be good and open up opportunities for better OOC scheduling. Darg has openly expressed his OOC scheduling plan for Siena. Day bus trips are his ideal non-conference opponents. The league gets the same amount of NCAA Tournament revenue whether there are 7 teams or 16 teams. Is just a question of whether each team gets 1/7th of the pot or 1/16th. I don't see any reason you would want to dilute your revenue per team at the same time as you are diluting the quality of play. You either expand to make your conference better or cause you need to expand to survive. The MAAC is fine with 10 teams so should only expand if it improves the conference. I do not think adding Farleigh Dickinson does that.
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Post by marshotel on Jan 20, 2022 10:49:07 GMT -5
I'm torn standing pat at 10. For Iona and maybe a couple of other teams it will be good and open up opportunities for better OOC scheduling. Darg has openly expressed his OOC scheduling plan for Siena. Day bus trips are his ideal non-conference opponents. The league gets the same amount of NCAA Tournament revenue whether there are 7 teams or 16 teams. Is just a question of whether each team gets 1/7th of the pot or 1/16th. I don't see any reason you would want to dilute your revenue per team at the same time as you are diluting the quality of play. You either expand to make your conference better or cause you need to expand to survive. The MAAC is fine with 10 teams so should only expand if it improves the conference. I do not think adding Farleigh Dickinson does that. I'm sure the AE thought they were fine at 10 also. AE is one team away from losing auto qualifying bid.
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Post by $cott on Jan 20, 2022 11:01:23 GMT -5
The league gets the same amount of NCAA Tournament revenue whether there are 7 teams or 16 teams. Is just a question of whether each team gets 1/7th of the pot or 1/16th. I don't see any reason you would want to dilute your revenue per team at the same time as you are diluting the quality of play. You either expand to make your conference better or cause you need to expand to survive. The MAAC is fine with 10 teams so should only expand if it improves the conference. I do not think adding Farleigh Dickinson does that. I'm sure the AE thought they were fine at 10 also. AE is one team away from losing auto qualifying bid. AE was always at risk with a bunch of schools already in the CAA for football. They actually really lucked out here as the CAA could have ended them if they had added Stony Brook, Albany, and New Hampshire rather than Hampton and Monmouth.
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