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Post by hockeyguy on Mar 14, 2017 10:03:50 GMT -5
I think he rounded up... but HJ is absolutely right... as usual lots of bitching about the OOC schedule. It seems some on here almost (note almost) think we should be hosting Duke AND Kentucky or similar every year.
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Post by gorvy on Mar 14, 2017 10:57:43 GMT -5
Count me as one fine with the schedule. Lots of other things to be concerned about. The schedule had the right teams on it even though it didn't break well at home. I would prefer Siena stay away from the non neutral site tourneys if possible. I also dislike home games away from the tuc. If it has to happen again hold it at the arc for the students. Again I wouldn't complain about this just points of discussion. The sos was good just have to find a way to win them. I'm excited about the 18 game maac schedule. That's going to add variety and be fun for debate. What maac teams will Siena get to play this year? Siena finished 4th and made it to championship but will probably get hosed in the poll that decides the schedule.
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Post by Tony on Mar 14, 2017 11:05:00 GMT -5
I think he rounded up... but HJ is absolutely right... as usual lots of bitching about the OOC schedule. It seems some on here almost (note almost) think we should be hosting Duke AND Kentucky or similar every year. Wondered when someone would post a stupid thing like this- I must have missed when someone posted Siena should be hosting Duke and Kentucky? The balls on Siena fans expected better than Cornell and Ark pine bluff. Next thing you know Siena fans will expect better than 6 losing seasons in last 7 regular seasons
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Post by SIENA1971 on Mar 14, 2017 11:15:30 GMT -5
Things can only get better for mid-majors if NCAA selection committee gives credit to majors who schedule mid-majors with a .500 plus record . . . and yes I do get delusional in blizzards
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 14, 2017 18:25:19 GMT -5
Things can only get better for mid-majors if NCAA selection committee gives credit to majors who schedule mid-majors with a .500 plus record . . . and yes I do get delusional in blizzards Exactly. I mean why do we play such a hard schedule when all that matters are W and L's?? There is ZERO advantage for a MM to play the 95th toughest schedule in the country. You need to scroll down over 60 spots to find the next MAAC team. Who knows what our record would have been this year with Monmouth or Ionas schedule? I wanna dump Louisville and Memphis next year. Not one logical reason to play those teams. It's a guaranteed 0-2 start. Fans dont care about the exposure, or the guaranteed money. They just care about the W and L's. Thats how a HC is judged. Get rid of the BCS game and schedule two cupcakes. Next time we go to Florida, play South Florida, not FGCU. Stupid. Winning is all that matters.
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Post by MTS on Mar 14, 2017 18:40:11 GMT -5
Things can only get better for mid-majors if NCAA selection committee gives credit to majors who schedule mid-majors with a .500 plus record . . . and yes I do get delusional in blizzards Exactly. I mean why do we play such a hard schedule when all that matters are W and L's?? There is ZERO advantage for a MM to play the 95th toughest schedule in the country. You need to scroll down over 60 spots to find the next MAAC team. Who knows what our record would have been this year with Monmouth or Ionas schedule? I wanna dump Louisville and Memphis next year. Not one logical reason to play those teams. It's a guaranteed 0-2 start. Fans dont care about the exposure, or the guaranteed money. They just care about the W and L's. Thats how a HC is judged. Get rid of the BCS game and schedule two cupcakes. Next time we go to Florida, play South Florida, not FGCU. Stupid. Winning is all that matters. We played exactly ONE "unwinnable" game at Kansas. The rest were all good mid-major opportunity just on the road. We had a senior dominated team we just simply did not get the job done. The schedule was actually really good ( and yes I wish better games were at home) Had Siena gone even 20-11 and won the tournament their RPI is around 55 and they have a 13 seed and a realistic NCAA tournament game. As for next year I would agree. Playing Louisville and Memphis doesn't help a guy fighting for his job.
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 14, 2017 18:48:13 GMT -5
Things can only get better for mid-majors if NCAA selection committee gives credit to majors who schedule mid-majors with a .500 plus record . . . and yes I do get delusional in blizzards Exactly. I mean why do we play such a hard schedule when all that matters are W and L's?? There is ZERO advantage for a MM to play the 95th toughest schedule in the country. You need to scroll down over 60 spots to find the next MAAC team. Who knows what our record would have been this year with Monmouth or Ionas schedule? I wanna dump Louisville and Memphis next year. Not one logical reason to play those teams. It's a guaranteed 0-2 start. Fans dont care about the exposure, or the guaranteed money. They just care about the W and L's. Thats how a HC is judged. Get rid of the BCS game and schedule two cupcakes. Next time we go to Florida, play South Florida, not FGCU. Stupid. Winning is all that matters. That's a load of crap outside Ka anyone of those OOC games this year should have been winable. If you wanna act like one of the better mids recruit and coach like one. Otherwise pack up the TU go back to the ARC and charge $5 a tix. Ka I get and Lville next yr too Memphis had an RPi of 121 we should play them...c'mon with the BS! Phew that post had Rex spin written all over it!
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 14, 2017 19:10:43 GMT -5
Exactly. I mean why do we play such a hard schedule when all that matters are W and L's?? There is ZERO advantage for a MM to play the 95th toughest schedule in the country. You need to scroll down over 60 spots to find the next MAAC team. Who knows what our record would have been this year with Monmouth or Ionas schedule? I wanna dump Louisville and Memphis next year. Not one logical reason to play those teams. It's a guaranteed 0-2 start. Fans dont care about the exposure, or the guaranteed money. They just care about the W and L's. Thats how a HC is judged. Get rid of the BCS game and schedule two cupcakes. Next time we go to Florida, play South Florida, not FGCU. Stupid. Winning is all that matters. That's a load of crap outside Ka anyone of those OOC games this year should have been winable. If you wanna act like one of the better mids recruit and coach like one. Otherwise pack up the TU go back to the ARC and charge $5 a tix. Ka I get and Lville next yr too Memphis had an RPi of 121 we should play them...c'mon with the BS! Phew that post had Rex spin written all over it! Like you guys preach, all that matters are W/L's. Then why would a guy fighting for his job the last couple years, have a schedule that tough. You guys can call the games anything you want. Just like the record doesn't lie, neither does the 95th SOS. IF I was the HC, I'd rather win 22 games and play a shitty schedule, and have you guys bitch about that instead of the record. 22-12 sounds alot better than 17-17. This isn't about standing up for the HC, but you guys cry no matter what, and it's tiresome. IF he went 22-12 and had the same schedule strength as Canisius, THAT would be your new bitch. "Well we didn't play a hard enough schedule" Boo F'in Hoo.
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 14, 2017 19:20:57 GMT -5
That's a load of crap outside Ka anyone of those OOC games this year should have been winable. If you wanna act like one of the better mids recruit and coach like one. Otherwise pack up the TU go back to the ARC and charge $5 a tix. Ka I get and Lville next yr too Memphis had an RPi of 121 we should play them...c'mon with the BS! Phew that post had Rex spin written all over it! Like you guys preach, all that matters are W/L's. Then why would a guy fighting for his job the last couple years, have a schedule that tough. You guys can call the games anything you want. Just like the record doesn't lie, neither does the 95th SOS. IF I was the HC, I'd rather win 22 games and play a shitty schedule, and have you guys bitch about that instead of the record. 22-12 sounds alot better than 17-17. This isn't about standing up for the HC, but you guys cry no matter what, and it's tiresome. IF he went 22-12 and had the same schedule strength as Canisius, THAT would be your new bitch. "Well we didn't play a hard enough schedule" Boo F'in Hoo. Did that sanctioned spin come from the end of the bar? He's fighting for his job because he can't recruit and compete with the best in his own conference. Sure he got to the MAAC finals this year, he should have with 4 1k PT scores and Nico. It's too bad he struggles yr in yr out with the best in the MAAC. Look at his 13 yr track record...speaks volumes Stop being a shill for your buddy. Everyone knows your angle. ๐ I want to be a competitive in our own conference first and compete with solid mids OOC not beat up on low major patsies and have a mediocre coach blow smoke up my a$$!
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Post by gorvy on Mar 14, 2017 19:34:55 GMT -5
The rpi last two years was fine. The issue has always been titles. He does just enough to have a decent but not excellent season. Hardly anyone is comparing him to beyer, Mitch etc but he can't be compared to the better coaches here either. New crop of players next season let's see what happens--/ this will be the first season the majority if not all of the playing time will come from players not originally recruited to Loyola. And we are all told that the only reason why he couldn't win at Loyola was because it was Loyola. So can he win a title at Siena?
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 14, 2017 19:34:57 GMT -5
Like you guys preach, all that matters are W/L's. Then why would a guy fighting for his job the last couple years, have a schedule that tough. You guys can call the games anything you want. Just like the record doesn't lie, neither does the 95th SOS. IF I was the HC, I'd rather win 22 games and play a shitty schedule, and have you guys bitch about that instead of the record. 22-12 sounds alot better than 17-17. This isn't about standing up for the HC, but you guys cry no matter what, and it's tiresome. IF he went 22-12 and had the same schedule strength as Canisius, THAT would be your new bitch. "Well we didn't play a hard enough schedule" Boo F'in Hoo. Did that sanctioned spin come from the end of the bar? He's fighting for his job because he can't recruit and compete with the best in his own conference. Sure he got to the MAAC finals this year, he should have with 4 1k PT scores and Nico. It's too bad he struggles yr in yr out with the best in the MAAC. Look at his 13 yr track record...speaks volumes Stop being a shill for your buddy. Everyone knows your angle. ๐ You always lose our arguments the minute you go with the "bar" angle. You're so clueless about his social life, or how much we actually talk. He's never in my bar, but you always need to get personal when you're beat. THAT'S YOUR ANGLE. You totally ignored the facts in my post, because you had no real rebuttal. Like I said, i wish we had a SOS of a 190th team, and we'd go 22-12. But if we did, you'd be the ringleader for how bad the schedule was.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 14, 2017 19:38:08 GMT -5
The rpi last two years was fine. The issue has always been titles. He does just enough to have a decent but not excellent season. Hardly anyone is comparing him to beyer, Mitch etc but he can't be compared to the better coaches here either. New crop of players next season let's see what happens--/ this will be the first season the majority if not all of the playing time will come from players not originally recruited to Loyola. And we are all told that the only reason why he couldn't win at Loyola was because it was Loyola. So can he win a title at Siena? The problem is fans dont care about RPI's. Only records. He's a fool to schedule like he did this past year. Fans would be much happier with a 22-12 record and a SOS like Iona or Monmouths.
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Post by Tony on Mar 14, 2017 19:39:50 GMT -5
All this talk about non conf SoS- is pure spin, Team was tied for 3rd, lost several games they shouldn't have both in conf and out of conf. Team had a disappointing year for several reasons, Non Conf record is toward the bottom of that
And yes itโs an art getting the right SoS- I'm not a big fan of the tournaments Jimmy gets in, we get 2 guaranteed loses and a $hitty low major home game. Play more teams like the bonnies, Hofstra FSGU etc.. balance the schedule so you donโt have a year like this year when the home portion of non conf stinks so bad, this year was one of worst home non conf schedule we had seen in years- the Bucknell game was just icing on cake for a bad year where everything went wrong
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 14, 2017 19:40:05 GMT -5
The rpi last two years was fine. The issue has always been titles. He does just enough to have a decent but not excellent season. Hardly anyone is comparing him to beyer, Mitch etc but he can't be compared to the better coaches here either. New crop of players next season let's see what happens--/ this will be the first season the majority if not all of the playing time will come from players not originally recruited to Loyola. And we are all told that the only reason why he couldn't win at Loyola was because it was Loyola. So can he win a title at Siena? The problem is fans dont care about RPI's. Only records. He's a fool to schedule like he did this past year. Fans would be much happier with a 22-12 record and a SOS like Iona or Monmouths. C'mon he can't win in the MAAC and you're whinny about OOC. LOL! Loyola .518 Siena .504 Lifetime .513 after 13 years in the MAAC Case closed! Plus UA Vt Hofstra SB FGCU UNC Asheville are all teams we should be able to hang with ... now stop crying. I think your boy needs a beer. Chop chop! Rex spends more time planning vacations then planing games and recruiting! That's the problem.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 14, 2017 19:47:36 GMT -5
The problem is fans dont care about RPI's. Only records. He's a fool to schedule like he did this past year. Fans would be much happier with a 22-12 record and a SOS like Iona or Monmouths. C'mon he can't win in the MAAC and you're whinny about OOC. LOL! Loyola .518 Siena .504 Lifetime .513 after 13 years in the MAAC Case closed! I think your boy needs a beer. Chop chop! Rex spends more time planning vacations then planing games and recruiting! That's the problem. You lose again.
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