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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 9, 2017 3:27:21 GMT -5
....We played a great/tough OOC schedule this year. FIVE (5) conference champions. FOUR (4) that will appear in the NCAA tournament. In our 11 games, 9 were against quality programs that finished +119 games over .500!! Only had 2 bums (Cornell and Ark PB), one of which we didnt schedule.
No one in our league was close. We were .5695....Monmouth was .5158....Iona was .5107
Final overall SOS we finished 96th....Monmouth 175....Iona 158
Sure, I wish we won a few of the closer ones we blew, but you cant say we didnt play the toughest schedule. One that might have gotten us ready for this past weekend?!
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Post by bigsaintg on Mar 9, 2017 6:12:11 GMT -5
I noticed many teams we played are in NCAA unfortunately we are not.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 9, 2017 7:09:21 GMT -5
What good is a strong OOC schedule if it leads to a 4-11 start and no post season? Just sayin........
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Post by greenblood on Mar 9, 2017 8:43:14 GMT -5
Agree with you racer but our off court issues were IMHO huge. In a season where the most impactfull physical injury happened at the end our disciplinary issues and other reported issues were much more inhibitory factors.
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Mar 9, 2017 8:45:46 GMT -5
What good is a strong OOC schedule if it leads to a 4-11 start and no post season? Just sayin........ An 11-4 start would have still not led to the postseason everyone wanted. Just sayin...... |
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Post by siena95 on Mar 9, 2017 8:54:33 GMT -5
What good is a strong OOC schedule if it leads to a 4-11 start and no post season? Just sayin........ An 11-4 start would have still not led to the postseason everyone wanted. Just sayin...... no but a 23-10 final record (i realize the MAAC seeding would change) and a last second lose in the conference championship is much more palatable then basically an under-achieving team for 90% of the season.... and at 23-10, jimmy would not be under such a microscope. 23-10 with that OOC schedulem Siena's RPI would have been very good too. Plus a team learning to win and winning up games in-season can only help. I mean beating Monmouth may be JP's biggest win here, and that isn't really a good thing. |
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Mar 9, 2017 8:58:48 GMT -5
An 11-4 start would have still not led to the postseason everyone wanted. Just sayin...... no but a 23-10 final record (i realize the MAAC seeding would change) and a last second lose in the conference championship is much more palatable then basically an under-achieving team for 90% of the season.... and at 23-10, jimmy would not be under such a microscope. 23-10 with that OOC schedulem Siena's RPI would have been very good too. Plus a team learning to win and winning up games in-season can only help. I mean beating Monmouth may be JP's biggest win here, and that isn't really a good thing. I agree totally. My point is, unless there was some unfathomable in-season moment like beating Kansas at The Phog, if we didn't make the NCAA's this year the season was likely going to be seen as a disappointment - probably even more so if we did have a 20+ win season. |
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Post by greengold4ever on Mar 9, 2017 9:15:45 GMT -5
What good is a strong OOC schedule if it leads to a 4-11 start and no post season? Just sayin........ An 11-4 start would have still not led to the postseason everyone wanted. Just sayin...... but an 11-4 start, very likely gets us an NIT bid based upon our rpi & strength of OCC schedule............sure, still not winning to punch our dance ticket at that point is still a big disappointment, but going to the NIT to play in a legit post season event is a solid consolation................and it was a STATED goal of the program, the admins, the AD, Patsos, coaches & players, that this season was to get to NCAA or NIT (there would be no C tournament), they all agreed upon it and if they didn't make that goal then the program would be re-evaluated (which is where we are as of right now)................. |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 9, 2017 12:59:30 GMT -5
Just to be clear 90% of this board blasted our OOC this summer/fall.
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Post by marshotel on Mar 9, 2017 13:07:11 GMT -5
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Post by knicksaint on Mar 9, 2017 13:30:52 GMT -5
Two things we do not know:
1. If we had started 11-4 instead of 4-11, would the chemistry issues have been as bad?
2. If we had started 11-4, we would have won a number of the games which were close losses. Would that have been a plus late in the Iona game or in overtime? I know we beat Monmouth the day before, but the more success in close games, the more likely I believe a team is to win when facing that scenario again.
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Post by nolesaint on Mar 9, 2017 14:46:55 GMT -5
Just to be clear 90% of this board blasted our OOC this summer/fall. HJ - taking a paper from the liberal playbook with this post. You're correct about the 90% but left out the some big chunks of the issue - away v. home games and some questionable opponents geographically. |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Mar 9, 2017 15:25:37 GMT -5
Just to be clear 90% of this board blasted our OOC this summer/fall. HJ - taking a paper from the liberal playbook with this post. You're correct about the 90% but left out the some big chunks of the issue - away v. home games and some questionable opponents geographically. The best teams won't come here, agreed? We have the the others coming next year. It rotates. Sure it wasn't a great home schedule, (The Bucknell mistake was the worst) but the kids got tourney tough in the road. We did play the best team in 5 different conferences. That's pretty impressive. Geographically, we got into Long Island with Hofstra, Penn with Bucknell, DC with GW, and the Florida Gulf game was great for retired Siena fans. Anytime you can play a top 5 team (Kansas) you do it. |
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Post by th24 on Mar 13, 2017 14:50:30 GMT -5
Mike Francesca had an intresting perspective on mid majors and scheduling. He more or less stated that they should consistently schedule a hard OOC schedule! That is how TOP mid major programs built their programs.And if they have to play all of those LARGER programs away ....so be it!
He also stated mid-major programs should stay in their smaller conferences!
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Post by hankla on Mar 13, 2017 16:20:45 GMT -5
Just to be clear 90% of this board blasted our OOC this summer/fall. I'm surprised someone hasn't pointed out that it was only 89.6% of posters. |
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