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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Nov 29, 2016 21:44:02 GMT -5
Fran professional, ya ok. google "Fran mccaffery technical" under videos. Fran slams chair Fran throws water bottle Fran goes crazy Fran tossed This Fran love has gone too far. Right on cue, Fran gets T'd up on national TV lol. His Iowa team this year, they're...they're not good. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 29, 2016 21:58:33 GMT -5
Fran professional, ya ok. google "Fran mccaffery technical" under videos. Fran slams chair Fran throws water bottle Fran goes crazy Fran tossed This Fran love has gone too far. Right on cue, Fran gets T'd up on national TV lol. His Iowa team this year, they're...they're not good. And that my friend was an example of a good and well timed T - they got a fire lit and ended the half down two. They are not too good now because they are young - he has them on a 5 Week plan. OBTW, this thread was started as a Fran Comparison thread so the bitch that the discussion does just that is off the ranch. |
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Nov 29, 2016 22:04:28 GMT -5
Right on cue, Fran gets T'd up on national TV lol. His Iowa team this year, they're...they're not good. And that my friend was an example of a good and well timed T - they got a fire lit and ended the half down two. They are not too good now because they are young - he has them on a 5 Week plan. OBTW, this thread was started as a Fran Comparison thread so the bitch that the discussion does just that is off the ranch. It was an error on my part. I should have framed it as how we started each season we made the NCAA tourney instead of mentioning the ordained one. But as I mentioned at the onset, sharing the info I found was purely out of curiosity and not intended to stoke debate. With that said, "who has the better timed technicals?" Sounds like the best Smack Talk thread ever lol. |
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Post by olddave on Nov 29, 2016 22:08:29 GMT -5
MP spot on. The hire of JP was an easy, lazy effort to try to bring the program back to its former years after a disastrous hire of MB. Will the school ever hire another Fran, not likely. Type of coach Fran is, a professional, controls their won destiny, will not let the bureaucrats tell them how to run the program. I disagree that there isn't another Fran out there. One both disciplined and calculating, with just the right amount of hunger, passion and the knowledge of the game to be a strategic master. We may have let one go in Tobin Anderson. Perhaps you did not understand my post or I misunderstood your post. There are more Fran's out there, but the school will probably not hire them due to their strong personalities that the school cannot control |
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Nov 29, 2016 23:03:25 GMT -5
And that my friend was an example of a good and well timed T - they got a fire lit and ended the half down two. They are not too good now because they are young - he has them on a 5 Week plan. OBTW, this thread was started as a Fran Comparison thread so the bitch that the discussion does just that is off the ranch. It was an error on my part. I should have framed it as how we started each season we made the NCAA tourney instead of mentioning the ordained one. But as I mentioned at the onset, sharing the info I found was purely out of curiosity and not intended to stoke debate. With that said, "who has the better timed technicals?" Sounds like the best Smack Talk thread ever lol. ...and the Fightin' Frans lost by 14. Maybe he should have gotten a 2nd T with 7 minutes to go in the 2nd half! |
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Post by Papi on Nov 29, 2016 23:09:46 GMT -5
F Fran. He started this mess. The recruiting class he had was like hitting the lottery. The results that group had was like hitting Powerball. It ain't happening anytime soon.
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Post by greenblood on Nov 30, 2016 5:22:02 GMT -5
I disagree that there isn't another Fran out there. One both disciplined and calculating, with just the right amount of hunger, passion and the knowledge of the game to be a strategic master. We may have let one go in Tobin Anderson. Perhaps you did not understand my post or I misunderstood your post. There are more Fran's out there, but the school will probably not hire them due to their strong personalities that the school cannot control DAVE, with all due respect what they've got is a poster child for out of control. |
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Post by olddave on Nov 30, 2016 6:17:32 GMT -5
Perhaps you did not understand my post or I misunderstood your post. There are more Fran's out there, but the school will probably not hire them due to their strong personalities that the school cannot control DAVE, with all due respect what they've got is a poster child for out of control. And who hired JP, nice safe controllable 500 coach, not me, not you, the people running the school. They knew what they were getting. Shame on the fans alumni continuing to support the program, school, am I one yes but getting close to saying f off next phone call from the school. |
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Post by $cott on Nov 30, 2016 10:10:10 GMT -5
I disagree that there isn't another Fran out there. One both disciplined and calculating, with just the right amount of hunger, passion and the knowledge of the game to be a strategic master. We may have let one go in Tobin Anderson. Perhaps you did not understand my post or I misunderstood your post. There are more Fran's out there, but the school will probably not hire them due to their strong personalities that the school cannot control LOLOLOLOL! Of all the valid criticisms of Siena, the idea that they picked Jimmy cause he was easy to control has to be the most ridiculous. |
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Post by siena95 on Nov 30, 2016 10:58:05 GMT -5
Perhaps you did not understand my post or I misunderstood your post. There are more Fran's out there, but the school will probably not hire them due to their strong personalities that the school cannot control LOLOLOLOL! Of all the valid criticisms of Siena, the idea that they picked So-So Jimbo cause he was easy to control has to be the most ridiculous. I laughed at that too... maybe they mean he isn't going to be looking for a raise, or somehow become larger then the school? so in that way, they control him and the program. For those that forget, or didn't attend, Siena is a college that has a basketball team, not a basketball program that happens to be at a college..... so when Fran had his run, and his salary really jumped (and would have again had he stayed) the admin and faculty got real antsy with that..... so if you notice, any time siena has had a chance to hit a home run and continue the success (albeit not at the 4 year run we had, but not bottoming out either) of a previous head coach, it usually goes poorly as they go "cheap" and/or easy. Replacing Fran with a successful coach would have been hard, yes, but that is what the admin and ath. dept. gets paid for.... time and time again they eff it up. We are now in year 4, arguably the best team since JP has been here and the season is walking a tight rope right now.... and next year doesn't look too good from a distance, so what do we do, wait another 3 or 4 years to be relevant? I was never on board with the hire of JP and 3 years later have seen very little to change that take. |
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Post by SIENA1971 on Nov 30, 2016 11:23:55 GMT -5
Perhaps you did not understand my post or I misunderstood your post. There are more Fran's out there, but the school will probably not hire them due to their strong personalities that the school cannot control LOLOLOLOL! Of all the valid criticisms of Siena, the idea that they picked So-So Jimbo cause he was easy to control has to be the most ridiculous. Siena knew what they were getting . . . how many years was he at Loyola . . . my guess was to get Siena's name back into the community . . . everyone loves Jimmy outside the TUC . . . Kevin Plank (Under Armour(, on the radio, TV, always good for a quote in the papers, at the track, local watering holes, banquets, etcetera |
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Post by siena95 on Nov 30, 2016 11:52:10 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOL! Of all the valid criticisms of Siena, the idea that they picked So-So Jimbo cause he was easy to control has to be the most ridiculous. Siena knew what they were getting . . . how many years was he at Loyola . . . my guess was to get Siena's name back into the community . . . everyone loves So-So Jimbo outside the TUC . . . Kevin Plank (Under Armour(, on the radio, TV, always good for a quote in the papers, at the track, local watering holes, banquets, etcetera They should have hired Dickie V then, if more concerned with the social aspect of the job.... and quite frankly that acts gets old real quick when you aren't winning, no one wants a circus clown when the tent is on fire. |
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Post by MTS on Nov 30, 2016 11:54:49 GMT -5
LOLOLOLOL! Of all the valid criticisms of Siena, the idea that they picked So-So Jimbo cause he was easy to control has to be the most ridiculous. Siena knew what they were getting . . . how many years was he at Loyola . . . my guess was to get Siena's name back into the community . . . everyone loves So-So Jimbo outside the TUC . . . Kevin Plank (Under Armour(, on the radio, TV, always good for a quote in the papers, at the track, local watering holes, banquets, etcetera I get the economic aspects but all of that stuff doesn't matter if you don't win and win big time (i.e. MAAC championships). |
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Post by SIENA1971 on Nov 30, 2016 13:44:50 GMT -5
Only if Jimmy got a blood transfusion from Gary Williams ... Loyola record didn't represent a sure-fire road to the NCAAs ... But his players graduated which Siena prides itself as being one of the top schools w that stat
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Post by bigfan on Nov 30, 2016 18:51:21 GMT -5
I really liked Fran. A lot.
But please keep in mind that he had the best starting talent the program has ever known. Today's team is very talented, and has some depth, but the talent is not on a par with Fran's teams.
Yes, Fran did recruit those guys, but it's not as if they were slam dunk stars that he knew would be studs. There is some luck involved in recruiting.
I remain convinced that this team, with proper coaching, should be NCAA or NIT bound. I believe that any one of our former successful coaches could take them there.
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