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Post by knicksaint on Mar 7, 2016 8:54:15 GMT -5
Wishful thinking so his kid can play more Wrong on soooo many levels. Correct, MP. It's only March 7, but olddave is in contention for the most ignorant post of 2016.
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Post by olddave on Mar 7, 2016 9:05:13 GMT -5
Wrong on soooo many levels. Correct, MP. It's only March 7, but olddave is in contention for the most ignorant post of 2016. I only state the obvious. Am I the one who threw the NICO staying Siena out there. No. Get TH here to elaborate on his comment, that btw in put out on public air. Since I don't know the reasons why TH stated it and you certainly don't other than your opinion that aim wrong I would love to hear the truth along with the other hundreds of other posters.
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Post by hoopsforever on Mar 7, 2016 10:43:17 GMT -5
OldDave, I think it is because Tom Huerter has never been about Tom Huerter, he is always about Siena, a highly respected member of the family who has played for the Saints, and supported Siena basketball for over 30 years now. We all love the guy and know that he is not a selfish parent, he is all about Siena. When he talks about his son, it is only about his son's opportunity to help Siena. I, for one, am VERY HAPPY that Tom Huerter's son is coming to the program. Hope that helps explain things.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 11:50:41 GMT -5
We played a nice game, and we could have won. The Manhattan game, we won on the line (35/45- 78%) and this game we lost on the line (11/21 – 52%). It also didn’t help when Nico came out in the second half we went zone and they hit a couple of 3’s. I know our players are to slow; I rather have them score 2 points than 3. English is a set up shooter for the three, when he has to dribble, it takes away his three. Also, when Brett switched on English when English was running the point, he scored every time. Brett should have backed up and let Nico through. Just my opinion. It’s a game we could have won. MrSiena is right, practice your free throws, 52% is unacceptable. I hope we continue to play somewhere…. Next year is our year! I hope the TUC & MAAC realize that their adult prices of tickets are “To Damn High”
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Post by siena95 on Mar 7, 2016 12:59:44 GMT -5
We played a nice game, and we could have won. The Manhattan game, we won on the line (35/45- 78%) and this game we lost on the line (11/21 – 52%). It also didn’t help when Nico came out in the second half we went zone and they hit a couple of 3’s. I know our players are to slow; I rather have them score 2 points than 3. English is a set up shooter for the three, when he has to dribble, it takes away his three. Also, when Brett switched on English when English was running the point, he scored every time. Brett should have backed up and let Nico through. Just my opinion. It’s a game we could have won. MrSiena is right, practice your free throws, 52% is unacceptable. I hope we continue to play somewhere…. Next year is our year! I hope the TUC & MAAC realize that their adult prices of tickets are “To Damn High” I felt the game was about lost when Nico came out (who probably did as good a job covering English as you can expect from anyone) and within 3 seconds they find English for a wide open 3. Of course it went in..... the other defense issue i saw was when they tried to pick nico, Brett would either flash to english for a second and then fade away, or never really go toward him at all, a few of his 3's in second half were due to that. He only needs an inch to open fire, so you can't give him any space.... overall, you can see where Siena needs to be athletically watching Iona and Monmouth and they just aren't there yet. Not sure i would have had wright play so much either, he didn't have it at all, was gun shy and when Jimmy had Kenny and Wright in at same time, you were a 0 from two guard spots offensively. maybe Jimmy was hoping the real Marquis would show up, but it was obvious he didn't have it. Nico- to play that hard defensively and still do what he did on the offensive end is impressive. Kids ceiling is very high. LL- two solid games from him. Need to keep that fire lit for a full season next year. Bench- needs to be addressed in recruiting--- i mean take away lavons pts off the bench (in reality he is a starter) there was hardly any help from bench. Fisher had a few 3's over the weekend, Larose barely played (he was not ready for Iona pressure), and no one else even checked in for the most part. Smithen should help, but would be nice to go to the bench and not see leads disappear and deficits double up.
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Post by nolesaint on Mar 7, 2016 13:11:20 GMT -5
Wrong on soooo many levels. Ok MP who's wrong and why. I commented on another poster who questioned TH comments regarding NICO. TH gave no specifics as far as the poster stated and I will not even try run down NICO, who Is a good kid as semesters run kids and coach down all the time. TH is extraordinary as a local color commentator, knows BB and is fair and impartial so not sure why he is throwing something of this nature out, just to see, of it sticks. Use the analogy of postseason, the broadcast crew says one thing other media outlets state the opposite. I like most posters state what we feel and comment on what is in reports. Most don't pretend to have the ear of the school and those that do are at times fed disinformation, not their fault. in conclusion if TH has definite info on NICO leaving state it, don't just put it out there it's a disservice to the player coach and school. Since no other info is stated by the poster I can make the conclusion because guess who his kid is playing behind. Btw if you have further information, that can help alleviate the stress that the statement causes fans please elaborate.
I find it curious that you'd be questioning Tom. If you know him at ALL you would know that he bleeds green and gold - bleeds it! As for the basis of his statement, if you are so concerned about it relating to a concern he has about his own son, I'd offer that although you are 'old' you haven't been paying attention over the years. If you had been paying attention over the years, you just might recall similar comments about many of the players from Fran's era such as CJ, RR, Edwin, Kenny, Alex, Ronald; Lanier's era such as Kujo and Jack M and yup unfortunately they left for greener pastures; Paul's era such as James Clinton - oops he did leave for greener pastures too didn't he; etc. So you can try to twist this into something nefarious if you want but its really just the reality of college basketball today. To paraphrase something Tony (I think) has said if you average them our there are nearly 2 transfers per year per program in D1 hoop. These transfer happen for all kinds of reasons but the fact is that the happen. Now knowing Tom like I do and how much he loves Siena and what Nico has and can continue to do for the program, I very firm in my belief that his comment was related to the above mentioned history at Siena and average annual transfer in DI college basketball rather than some crazy ass conspiracy you are cooking up in your 'old' head.
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Post by MTS on Mar 7, 2016 13:21:21 GMT -5
Ok MP who's wrong and why. I commented on another poster who questioned TH comments regarding NICO. TH gave no specifics as far as the poster stated and I will not even try run down NICO, who Is a good kid as semesters run kids and coach down all the time. TH is extraordinary as a local color commentator, knows BB and is fair and impartial so not sure why he is throwing something of this nature out, just to see, of it sticks. Use the analogy of postseason, the broadcast crew says one thing other media outlets state the opposite. I like most posters state what we feel and comment on what is in reports. Most don't pretend to have the ear of the school and those that do are at times fed disinformation, not their fault. in conclusion if TH has definite info on NICO leaving state it, don't just put it out there it's a disservice to the player coach and school. Since no other info is stated by the poster I can make the conclusion because guess who his kid is playing behind. Btw if you have further information, that can help alleviate the stress that the statement causes fans please elaborate.
I find it curious that you'd be questioning Tom. If you know him at ALL you would know that he bleeds green and gold - bleeds it! As for the basis of his statement, if you are so concerned about it relating to a concern he has about his own son, I'd offer that although you are 'old' you haven't been paying attention over the years. If you had been paying attention over the years, you just might recall similar comments about many of the players from Fran's era such as CJ, RR, Edwin, Kenny, Alex, Ronald; Lanier's era such as Kujo and Jack M and yup unfortunately they left for greener pastures; Paul's era such as James Clinton - oops he did leave for greener pastures too didn't he; etc. So you can try to twist this into something nefarious if you want but its really just the reality of college basketball today. To paraphrase something Tony (I think) has said if you average them our there are nearly 2 transfers per year per program in D1 hoop. These transfer happen for all kinds of reasons but the fact is that the happen. Now knowing Tom like I do and how much he loves Siena and what Nico has and can continue to do for the program, I very firm in my belief that his comment was related to the above mentioned history at Siena and average annual transfer in DI college basketball rather than some crazy ass conspiracy you are cooking up in your 'old' head. I agree. I'm a big fan of Tom and the General. I will miss Tom on TV/Radio. They want the very best for Siena (but still produce a professional broadcast). Tom has connections with the program and when you say something like that you might get people a little concerned. I highly doubt Nico is going anyplace. Just look at his tweets and comments after the game. It is pretty clear he loves Siena and his teammates and wants to work harder to get Siena to the NCAA tournament. But anytime you see a frosh that good and in the current D1 landscape everyone thinks that worst even a Siena former player and broadcaster. But saying out loud is another thing. The other thing I didn't get (as I previously mentioned) from Tom and Robert was saying the season was probably over. I mean it could be but they interviewed D'Arg at halftime of the Manhattan game and went through all of the possibilities of tournaments should Siena not win the MAAC. D'Arg mentioned finances are concerns but postseason is important for Siena. If you listened to D'Arg and Jimmy last night it is pretty obvious Siena is going to be playing in another tournament - home or away we don't know as JP said.
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Post by olddave on Mar 7, 2016 13:35:23 GMT -5
Candidly I quoted off a post as I did not hear the comments. My point was that if you make such comments onpublicair waves give the faithful an explanation for such. No doubt TH bleeds green and I mysel have used his comments regarding games here. Unfortunately I state biblically what many may have thought privately Have we received info regarding the statement. Believe Tom wishs he never said it and didn't mean to set off firestorm. Btw is I am wrong man enough to admit it but just show me.
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Post by olddave on Mar 7, 2016 14:59:32 GMT -5
T Huerter on 1300 2pm with PV. Yes he bleeds green and gold, 100% behind the team, no one including me doubts that. Brought up many relevant points regarding the program and professionally shot PV down which he accepted because of Toms knowledge. To finish the mild controversy here and I ma paraphrasing regarding NICO, every year he is at Siena he will ne outstanding. Went over PV's head. Perhaps the posters who know him personally can reach out and have him define his comments on both broadcasts.
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Post by james on Mar 7, 2016 16:17:37 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken Jack McClinton left after the coach whom recruited him was dismissed and no,James Clinton played all 4 years if my memory serves me correctly which is not that often.GO SAINTS!!
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Post by olddave on Mar 7, 2016 19:42:03 GMT -5
Listening to Bills championship game said Roundtree graduated Wake Forest in 3 years. Give the kid credit.
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Post by greenblood on Mar 7, 2016 19:54:46 GMT -5
There are many bball players that graduate in 3 years with viable degrees (not creative arts) and play as graduate transfers.
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Post by nolesaint on Mar 7, 2016 21:03:18 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken Jack McClinton left after the coach whom recruited him was dismissed and no,James Clinton played all 4 years if my memory serves me correctly which is not that often.GO SAINTS!! Re Jack M - like I said kids transfer for all kinds of reasons. Quite sure James Clinton transferred to SBU. Could be wrong.
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Post by greenblood on Mar 7, 2016 21:17:07 GMT -5
Jack McCLinton was the consummate gym rat. His father believed he could platform higher and Jack was a workaholic at getting better and bigger. Many people here were not kind when he left. He proved them all wrong. Every kid and family has to do what they think is best for their future on and off the court.
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Post by brian on Mar 7, 2016 21:19:48 GMT -5
If I'm not mistaken Jack McClinton left after the coach whom recruited him was dismissed and no,James Clinton played all 4 years if my memory serves me correctly which is not that often.GO SAINTS!! Re Jack M - like I said kids transfer for all kinds of reasons. Quite sure James Clinton transferred to SBU. Could be wrong. James Clinton didn't transfer to SBU, Paul Williams.
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