The Right Backed Another Winner

[CellarRat]

I wonder if the guilty teacher is a democrat? My guess is that she is. Intolerance on the left is far more prevalent than the right.

guardianlv.com/2014/04/bible-confiscated-from-second-grader-flagged-inappropriate/

[indian82]

Apr 27, 2014 6:47:16 GMT -5 CellarRat said:

The left backed this guy and so did the NAACP:

nydn.us/1hCb2kg

Let's see how he feels when his black players don't play and his black fans don't attend the games. He's a old senile fool.

Well, yeah that's obvious, but you're still missing my point or choosing to ignore it.

[indian82]

Apr 27, 2014 7:02:00 GMT -5 CellarRat said:

I wonder if the guilty teacher is a democrat? My guess is that she is. Intolerance on the left is far more prevalent than the right.

guardianlv.com/2014/04/bible-confiscated-from-second-grader-flagged-inappropriate/

You're right - that's reprehensible too. But you're still pointing to the failings of the other side and not expecting more from the leaders and organizations you would hope could change it. I guess they do not need any improvements - No need to do anything. Their unity, organization and leadership should guarantee a majority in the House and Senate and they should win the WH handily. Although nobody can tell me who that leader will be that can it.

[CellarRat]

Apr 27, 2014 7:05:30 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Apr 27, 2014 6:47:16 GMT -5 CellarRat said:

The left backed this guy and so did the NAACP:

nydn.us/1hCb2kg

Let's see how he feels when his black players don't play and his black fans don't attend the games. He's a old senile fool.

Well, yeah that's obvious, but you're still missing my point or choosing to ignore it.

I guess I am. For the record, I agree with you more often than I don't.

However, when you use kids gloves with your opponents and a sledge hammer with people that share your beliefs for the sake of looking moderate, it is annoying.

Society is moving further and further left, compromise at this point is just a means of slowing down the inevitable. That apparently is something that you support. No surprise that liberals on this board find you reasonable.

[indian82]

Apr 27, 2014 7:20:49 GMT -5 CellarRat said:

Apr 27, 2014 7:05:30 GMT -5 indian82 said:

Well, yeah that's obvious, but you're still missing my point or choosing to ignore it.

I guess I am. For the record, I agree with you more often than I don't.

However, when you use kids gloves with your opponents and a sledge hammer with people that share your beliefs for the sake of looking moderate, it is annoying.

Society is moving further and further left, compromise at this point is just a means of slowing down the inevitable. That apparently is something that you support. No surprise that liberals on this board find you reasonable.

Kid gloves or heavy weight gloves - you still need effective leaders to unite and communicate conservative ideas effectively to enough people who can make a difference. Until then it's just a few factions yelling at the 'other side' - mostly in forums like this that don't mean anything. And some of these factions are the Bundy-types and social imbeciles saying crazy things about rape, abortion, etc. who will only turn those on the fence in the other direction.

[SaintsFan]

See that i82... he backhanded complimented you by implying you're a liberal. Typical.

[indian82]

Apr 27, 2014 7:34:19 GMT -5 SaintsFan said:

See that i82... he backhanded complimented you by implying you're a liberal. Typical.

And I have to assume that he finds me unreasonable. If so, so be it.

He's misunderstanding my intent if he thinks I am trying to use a sledge hammer. As a poor analogy, do sports team who are struggling (think Siena in the recent past) merely point out the other team's weaknesses and figure that because of those weaknesses that they should triumph or do they try to improve themselves? Maybe a poor analogy, but just another way to try to get my point across. Until the Republicans find that leader(s) and change their game plan 2016 will be their 3rd consecutive losing season. Reince Priebus ain't coming up with anything new that I see. He forgot who he may have on the bench and his recruiting isn't very good either.

[indian82]

And to follow up on the sledge hammer approach, I know that's what Cellar Rat wants to use on the 'other side'. That may be OK if you know how to use it and you know that your sledgehammer is bigger than whatever your opponent is using. But I don't think either is the case here. The Republicans/Conservatives/Right/TeaPartiers (whatever you want to call them) are not working from a position of strength.

[CellarRat]

Apr 27, 2014 7:34:19 GMT -5 SaintsFan said:

See that i82... he backhanded complimented you by implying you're a liberal. Typical.

I know he is not a liberal. He wants and desires the same things that many conservatives on this board do. Many liberals on this board, like you, desire a lot of things that are inconsistent and irreconcilable with those views. To compromise is simply giving in. That is my point. Typical? Ok.

The problem we have now is that most conservatives are moderates on the political spectrum, and most liberals are far left. I personally think it is a losing battle for conservatives. Part of the reason I left the Democratic Party. We are becoming more and more socialistic as a country for sure. The solution is to adapt to the new reality. The generations to follow will not know the difference.

The only way the conservatives have a chance is to support a small government-fiscally conservative philosophy with libertarian leaning views for social issues. Most people on the right would support this and maybe 30 to 50% on the left would.

People like SF would never vote for a Republican. Typical.

[thefan]

Society is moving further and further left, compromise at this point is just a means of slowing down the inevitable

Read more: sienahoop.proboards.com/thread/2477/right-backed-another-winner?page=2#ixzz3076sbta4

So you think the country is becoming more liberal? Shouldn't that mean the will of the people (more liberal) would be the direction of things? And not what's best for the Koch's and Adelson's and Soros's of the world?

[CellarRat]

Apr 27, 2014 13:47:54 GMT -5 thefan said:

Society is moving further and further left, compromise at this point is just a means of slowing down the inevitable

Read more: sienahoop.proboards.com/thread/2477/right-backed-another-winner?page=2#ixzz3076sbta4

So you think the country is becoming more liberal? Shouldn't that mean the will of the people (more liberal) would be the direction of things? And not what's best for the Koch's and Adelson's and Soros's of the world?

Yes I do. Democrats typically kill the middle and uppermiddle class. Obama was hell bent to raise taxes on those folks and he did. He also passed ACA which taxes some even more! Just redistributing wealth from the uppermiddle class down to the middle and lower classes. "Income taxes" don't affect people like Soros and the Koch brothers. Don't blame me I didn't vote for him. Blame yourself.

[billmurray]

I have a problem with those who lose elections and see the solution obstructionism and even worse proposing/lionizing armed insurrection. SF is on target here, we need sound ideas to move the economy forward, not obstructionism and insurrection. Reasonable people can agree on something for the benefit of the America and its people. Both sides should make an attempt to get something done. Doing nothing and insurrection are not the American way.

[CellarRat]

Apr 27, 2014 16:53:11 GMT -5 billmurray said:

I have a problem with those who lose elections and see the solution obstructionism and even worse proposing/lionizing armed insurrection. SF is on target here, we need sound ideas to move the economy forward, not obstructionism and insurrection. Reasonable people can agree on something for the benefit of the America and its people. Both sides should make an attempt to get something done. Doing nothing and insurrection are not the American way.

You are a partisan that's clear. You guys are so entrenched you don't even realize that your party is the party that didn't compromise the last six years.

[billmurray]

What part of both sides do you not understand. Concessions need to be made by both sides, no partisanship here. Let go you partisanship and be part of the solution, not the problem.

[CellarRat]

Reread your post, you don't seem to understand what you said. You called one side obstructionists. Is that the side you want to do the compromising?