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Post by Tony on Dec 1, 2013 21:38:22 GMT -5
Yeah, Tony, that's awesome. You're never wrong. Except that their top 4 in attendance will be gone and the remainder draw less than 5k at home, so how can you claim they will bring any on the road?  Not to mention that when VCU, UMass, St Louis, Richmond, and Dayton are gone, the others attendance will drop even more, to about 4k. please show me the link the top 4 are gone-- what did I tell you about bullshitting Take St Louis and Dayton out of equation ( two most rumored to be leaving) and then VCU-ST Bonaventure- St Josephs-Richmond-URI-UMAASS-LaSalle all have more attendance than anyone in MAAC not named Siena—in fact VCU- Richmond- Mason – Umass_ all have double maybe triple the attendance of any team in MAAC- yeah they are close numbers.. Like I Said Upstate - if you dont want to go to A10 plenty of legitimate reasons ( cost- level of competition etc) but attendance is not a minus for going to A10- its actually a plus |
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Post by billmurray on Dec 1, 2013 22:00:16 GMT -5
Yeah, Tony, that's awesome. You're never wrong. Except that their top 4 in attendance will be gone and the remainder draw less than 5k at home, so how can you claim they will bring any on the road? Not to mention that when VCU, UMass, St Louis, Richmond, and Dayton are gone, the others attendance will drop even more, to about 4k. please show me the link the top 4 are gone-- what did I tell you about bullshitting Take St Louis and Dayton out of equation ( two most rumored to be leaving) and then VCU-ST Bonaventure- St Josephs-Richmond-URI-UMAASS-LaSalle all have more attendance than anyone in MAAC not named Siena—in fact VCU- Richmond- Mason – Umass_ all have double maybe triple the attendance of any team in MAAC- yeah they are close numbers.. Like I Said Upstate - if you dont want to go to A10 plenty of legitimate reasons ( cost- level of competition etc) but attendance is not a minus for going to A10- its actually a plus Well said Tony. If the call does come Siena has to and will go. |
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Post by DelmartianEd on Dec 2, 2013 3:04:41 GMT -5
......If Siena got the invite in the future and declined it, it's certainly possible that our invite would go on to Fairfield or Iona, or maybe even Manhattan or Canisius. If you're not moving up, you're falling behind. Square, If the A10 expands it is questionable whether Siena will get the invite. Other possible candidates include William & Mary, Hofstra, The College of Charleston, Northeastern, James Madison, UNC Wilmington, and Detroit. There has been absolutely no mention of Fairfield, Iona, Manhattan, or Canisius being invited to join the A10 as you have asked us to believe. I am told by a source I deem reliable that Hofstra (think larger media market) will be invited before Siena. W&M and JMU are football schools, so you can take them off your list. Detroit is only a thing if Dayton is sticking around and needs a travel partner/regional rival. We can't compete with that. As for the others, if they got the invite, are you concerned that the CAA could replace them with MAAC programs? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 7:07:39 GMT -5
Yeah, Tony, that's awesome. You're never wrong. Except that their top 4 in attendance will be gone and the remainder draw less than 5k at home, so how can you claim they will bring any on the road? Not to mention that when VCU, UMass, St Louis, Richmond, and Dayton are gone, the others attendance will drop even more, to about 4k. please show me the link the top 4 are gone-- what did I tell you about bullshitting Take St Louis and Dayton out of equation ( two most rumored to be leaving) and then VCU-ST Bonaventure- St Josephs-Richmond-URI-UMAASS-LaSalle all have more attendance than anyone in MAAC not named Siena—in fact VCU- Richmond- Mason – Umass_ all have double maybe triple the attendance of any team in MAAC- yeah they are close numbers.. Like I Said Upstate - if you dont want to go to A10 plenty of legitimate reasons ( cost- level of competition etc) but attendance is not a minus for going to A10- its actually a plus Bullshitting? I'm speculating, based on reports, same as anyone else. Here's 1 for you, from Lindy's. If the Big East grows, Richmond, St Louis , Dayton, and VCU are the most likely targets. If the Big East takes 2, the others are likely heading to Conference USA, especially St Louis, who came from CUSA and would return, like Charlotte did. And UMass is doing everything they can to get to a football league. So, as I said, likely, at least 3 of top 5 gone and others will lose attendance without those schools on the schedule. Since you think "cost" is a reason, I'll call it cost. Drawing less fans reduces revenue. Increased travel causes increased costs. Recruiting is already slipping in the A-10 with Temple and Xavier gone. Coaches can't sell games against national powers to recruits anymore. Tourney money won't increase, the A-10 will be a 1 bid league. |
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Post by th24 on Dec 2, 2013 7:29:39 GMT -5
Man...it sounds like UPSTATE has an agenda- maybe he works for MAAC?! I don't think it would surprise anyone if the couple of people from this blog worked for the commissioner!
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 7:32:06 GMT -5
I'm having difficulty understanding your view that our home attendance would drop if we were in the A10. Every one of the current A10 teams would bring in more fans than 3/4 of the current MAAC teams. We draw reasonably well for the bottom MAAC teams when we are on a home streak, near or at the top of the MAAC standings and the weather is clear and dry. All of the current A10 teams (I don't want to engage in what if "so and so" leaves - some other "so and so" may come in with even more appeal) would, IMO bring in more fans out of curiosity to see someone new as well as to see a better brand of hoop. Our Traveling fan base would likely increase for games as far away as Philly but would not extend to Richmond or Dayton, let alone St. Louis. Our band of "I'll go anywhere we play" (and they do) die hards will continue their on-the-road support. Our impact on attendance at the other teams' facilities is of no consequence other than our traveling fan support. I say grab the invite when and if it comes. In the meantime, let's concentrate on supporting this team so it has as much help as we fans can give it to get back to the top of the MAAC and be worthy of an up-conference invite.
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Post by nolesaint on Dec 2, 2013 8:00:55 GMT -5
This is comical. When the call comes Siena will, as it should, jump in with both feet!
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Post by glen on Dec 2, 2013 8:06:16 GMT -5
The Big East is only taking 2 *IF* it expands. St Louis and Dayton are the most likely. There may be some shuffling for FB but AA doesn't really pay. It is a loser (money-wise). I doubt UMass jumps anywhere just for FB.
Either way, the A10 PRODUCES good teams. Did you see the GW win over Creighton? GW isn't even one of the "premiere" teams. Any teams that go to the A10 to replace the departing teams will get better. That league focuses resources on hoop. They aren't pretending to be a hockey/soccer/LAX/etc. league. The A10 is all hoop. Sure if some of the better teams go it'll be down for a bit but it'll be back before you can say Mitch Buonaguro.
Look at the athletes on the A10 teams we've played to date. They are all a good bit better than MAAC level. I'll take playing with the remaining A10 teams over the current MAAC/NEC teams any day. Here's any easy test...quick - name a MAAC/NEC sweet 16 team? Now, name an A10 sweet-16 team. Stark differnce. Period.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 2, 2013 8:21:37 GMT -5
The Big East is only taking 2 *IF* it expands. St Louis and Dayton are the most likely. There may be some shuffling for FB but AA doesn't really pay. It is a loser (money-wise). I doubt UMass jumps anywhere just for FB. Either way, the A10 PRODUCES good teams. Did you see the GW win over Creighton? GW isn't even one of the "premiere" teams. Any teams that go to the A10 to replace the departing teams will get better. That league focuses resources on hoop. They aren't pretending to be a hockey/soccer/LAX/etc. league. The A10 is all hoop. Sure if some of the better teams go it'll be down for a bit but it'll be back before you can say Mitch Buonaguro. Look at the athletes on the A10 teams we've played to date. They are all a good bit better than MAAC level. I'll take playing with the remaining A10 teams over the current MAAC/NEC teams any day. Here's any easy test...quick - name a MAAC/NEC sweet 16 team? Now, name an A10 sweet-16 team. Stark differnce. Period. Look at the athletes in the A-10? Sure. Because they were recruited to play against Temple, Xavier, Charlotte, Butler. Watch the level go down. Name a Sweet 16 team ? You name an A-10 Sweet 16 team who will still be there in a year or 2. VCU, possibly. You guys don't seem to see how much they've lost and continue to lose. |
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Post by glen on Dec 2, 2013 11:31:54 GMT -5
U73 - And compared to the MAAC/NEC? Yes, they keep losing...and are still better
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Post by $cott on Dec 2, 2013 14:56:03 GMT -5
There is no reason whatsoever to think that the A10 will lose more than 3 teams. St Louis and Dayton or Richmond will go to the Big East and maybe eventually UMass will join a football conference. There is no way Richmond and VCU are leaving the A10 for Conference USA.
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Post by Tony on Dec 2, 2013 18:48:12 GMT -5
There is no reason whatsoever to think that the A10 will lose more than 3 teams. St Louis and Dayton or Richmond will go to the Big East and maybe eventually UMass will join a football conference. There is no way Richmond and VCU are leaving the A10 for Conference USA. Correct Scott.. and no reason to believe attendance would decrease- a no brainer better teams coming into TUC and programs that actually have fans that travel. Attendance would increase. Just wait and upstate will come up with some other idea why the A10 is a bad idea... and before we get too far ahead- first of all we need a invite-- and most importantly we have to put a good product on the floor |
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 7, 2013 18:46:05 GMT -5
If offered Siena is gone, no doubt about it bye bye MAAC.. You can bank on it!
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Not to mention that when VCU, UMass, St Louis, Richmond, and Dayton are gone, the others attendance will drop even more, to about 4k. 
