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Post by playerparentcoach on Aug 31, 2013 19:00:40 GMT -5
I know about the 6'8 guys...and that's what I mean...the more size the better
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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2013 6:36:12 GMT -5
PPC with all the time you spend on thees boards, you should spend time educating yourself on who the staff is recruiting: they are all guards and forwards. As Knicksaint stated recently, the top 3 are Kevin Degnan (6-8 Combo Forward) who signed with Fairfield, Sterling Taplin a 6-2 combo guard, and William Bradwijk a 6-8 combo forward who can shoot it real well from 3. The staff has reportedly tried to get 6-8 Elijah Burns to reconsider his reclass to 2015 and come to Siena, they have been recruiting him hard according to his twitter - he is a combo forward. We do not need any big men as we have four on the roster who will be here for the enxt 2 years. we recently offered a wing who selected Bucknell. Why does she need to know who the top targets are to have an opinion about what the team needs? There's nothing wrong with you disagreeing with her, but saying she needs to "educate" herself is degrading. Besides which, just because knicksaint named the "Top 3 " , doesn't mean the staff isn't recruiting anyone else. And Siena has zero shot at Elijah Burns. |
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 6, 2013 19:03:35 GMT -5
How long does the NCAA need to determine if Cole is eligible for a waiver? The NCAA should simply do what it usually does to Siena and screw them over yet again. Seems like when Siena applies for a waiver they're usually denied.
Maybe their lack of a quick denial may be a blessing & they'll approve Cole's (Siena's) waiver.
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Post by DelmartianEd on Oct 6, 2013 20:20:59 GMT -5
Last season, October 25th is when it was announced that Tavon Sledge (Iona) was granted his waiver and Ashton Pankey (Manhattan) was denied his.
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Post by gosaints on Oct 6, 2013 20:46:24 GMT -5
PPC with all the time you spend on thees boards, you should spend time educating yourself on who the staff is recruiting: they are all guards and forwards. As Knicksaint stated recently, the top 3 are Kevin Degnan (6-8 Combo Forward) who signed with Fairfield, Sterling Taplin a 6-2 combo guard, and William Bradwijk a 6-8 combo forward who can shoot it real well from 3. The staff has reportedly tried to get 6-8 Elijah Burns to reconsider his reclass to 2015 and come to Siena, they have been recruiting him hard according to his twitter - he is a combo forward. We do not need any big men as we have four on the roster who will be here for the enxt 2 years. we recently offered a wing who selected Bucknell. Why does she need to know who the top targets are to have an opinion about what the team needs? There's nothing wrong with you disagreeing with her, but saying she needs to "educate" herself is degrading. Besides which, just because knicksaint named the "Top 3 " , doesn't mean the staff isn't recruiting anyone else. And Siena has zero shot at Elijah Burns. I've seen Burns play about 30 games for Lasalle and thank God siena has no shot at him! He likes to play outside and is soft around the hoop!!!! |
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Post by hoopjunkie on Oct 6, 2013 21:22:45 GMT -5
Burns will be begging to come home when he goes too high......
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Oct 7, 2013 8:51:38 GMT -5
TY for the info. So it sounds like the fact that we haven't Rec'd confirmation yet isn't a bad sign. I'd still like to hear something sooner if possible. Wouldn't it be cool if Siena found out "good" news by 9/12 to share w/us at the TUC? Per twitter from Cole himself, the waiver request wasn't even sent from Cole/Patsos/Siena to the NCAA clearinghouse until September 16th. So, I don't think the fact that we haven't heard anything yet is abnormal. With that said, I don't expect a waiver to be granted (no insider info, just a hunch). |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 10:46:49 GMT -5
How long does the NCAA need to determine if Cole is eligible for a waiver? The NCAA should simply do what it usually does to Siena and screw them over yet again. Seems like when Siena applies for a waiver they're usually denied. Maybe their lack of a quick denial may be a blessing & they'll approve Cole's (Siena's) waiver. Just judging by what has been posted here, I can't see where Cole has much grounds for a waiver, so it wouldn't really be "screwing Siena over" if it was denied. I hope he gets it if it's what he wants, but he's not really closer to home, there wasn't a coaching change or post -season ban, none of the normal avenues for a waiver. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 11:25:49 GMT -5
How long does the NCAA need to determine if Cole is eligible for a waiver? The NCAA should simply do what it usually does to Siena and screw them over yet again. Seems like when Siena applies for a waiver they're usually denied. Maybe their lack of a quick denial may be a blessing & they'll approve Cole's (Siena's) waiver. Just judging by what has been posted here, I can't see where Cole has much grounds for a waiver, so it wouldn't really be "screwing Siena over" if it was denied. I hope he gets it if it's what he wants, but he's not really closer to home, there wasn't a coaching change or post -season ban, none of the normal avenues for a waiver. I would be very cautious drawing any conclusions based solely on what has been posted on this board or any of the previously granted and publicly discussed waivers given to players on other MAAC or other teams. None of us know the specifics and basis for the waiver that Cole is presenting for NCAA consideration. I would strongly doubt that Siena would go forward if they did not believe there was a legitimate shot at obtaining the waiver. Let's just let it play out and see what the NCAA rules. I believe any outcome will be good for Siena, either in the short term or longer term. JMO! |
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 7, 2013 12:15:01 GMT -5
How long does the NCAA need to determine if Cole is eligible for a waiver? The NCAA should simply do what it usually does to Siena and screw them over yet again. Seems like when Siena applies for a waiver they're usually denied. Maybe their lack of a quick denial may be a blessing & they'll approve Cole's (Siena's) waiver. Just judging by what has been posted here, I can't see where Cole has much grounds for a waiver, so it wouldn't really be "screwing Siena over" if it was denied. I hope he gets it if it's what he wants, but he's not really closer to home, there wasn't a coaching change or post -season ban, none of the normal avenues for a waiver. I feel they screwed Siena over with Imoh & Lionel. It just seemed unfair to pass a new rule (that was discussed for years until finally passing a couple summers ago) AFTER Those two committed before that new rule was passed. IMO they should have been grandfathered in or something. Then Siena had to appeal multiple times just to receive limited years play on top of sitting out a year. Then I read stories of an Iona getting waivers like the NCAA is handing out free gas or something. Maybe I don't fully understand the situations but just seems Siena isn't as lucky as Iona with waivers. |
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Post by SaintsFan on Oct 7, 2013 12:33:35 GMT -5
Just judging by what has been posted here, I can't see where Cole has much grounds for a waiver, so it wouldn't really be "screwing Siena over" if it was denied. I hope he gets it if it's what he wants, but he's not really closer to home, there wasn't a coaching change or post -season ban, none of the normal avenues for a waiver. I feel they screwed Siena over with Imoh & Lionel. It just seemed unfair to pass a new rule (that was discussed for years until finally passing a couple summers ago) AFTER Those two committed before that new rule was passed. IMO they should have been grandfathered in or something. Then Siena had to appeal multiple times just to receive limited years play on top of sitting out a year. Then I read stories of an Iona getting waivers like the NCAA is handing out free gas or something. Maybe I don't fully understand the situations but just seems Siena isn't as lucky as Iona with waivers. I dont agree. Every other program backed off recruiting them. It is no coincidence that they wound up with a guy that struggled to recruit at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 7, 2013 13:31:53 GMT -5
Just judging by what has been posted here, I can't see where Cole has much grounds for a waiver, so it wouldn't really be "screwing Siena over" if it was denied. I hope he gets it if it's what he wants, but he's not really closer to home, there wasn't a coaching change or post -season ban, none of the normal avenues for a waiver. I feel they screwed Siena over with Imoh & Lionel. It just seemed unfair to pass a new rule (that was discussed for years until finally passing a couple summers ago) AFTER Those two committed before that new rule was passed. IMO they should have been grandfathered in or something. Then Siena had to appeal multiple times just to receive limited years play on top of sitting out a year. Then I read stories of an Iona getting waivers like the NCAA is handing out free gas or something. Maybe I don't fully understand the situations but just seems Siena isn't as lucky as Iona with waivers. Not a matter of luck. it is a matter of individual cases. FWIW, some reports from twitter sound like Iona's waiver request for Kelvin Amayo has been denied |
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 8, 2013 15:11:03 GMT -5
How accurate is verbal commits.com? They list Cole as a PG and Oliver as a SF.
PPC you've seen the practices and/or pick up games, is Cole a Legit PG or is he more of a Sg/combo guard?
While I can see Oliver maybe being able to play SF in the MAAC, I believe he'd be better as a SG (especially in the MAAC).
That site just seems a little off in their classifications.
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Post by SaintsFan on Oct 8, 2013 20:11:03 GMT -5
How accurate is verbal commits.com? They list Cole as a PG and Oliver as a SF. PPC you've seen the practices and/or pick up games, is Cole a Legit PG or is he more of a Sg/combo guard? While I can see Oliver maybe being able to play SF in the MAAC, I believe he'd be better as a SG (especially in the MAAC). That site just seems a little off in their classifications. A 2 and bit of a gunner |
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Post by playerparentcoach on Oct 8, 2013 21:58:40 GMT -5
How accurate is verbal commits.com? They list Cole as a PG and Oliver as a SF. PPC you've seen the practices and/or pick up games, is Cole a Legit PG or is he more of a Sg/combo guard? While I can see Oliver maybe being able to play SF in the MAAC, I believe he'd be better as a SG (especially in the MAAC). That site just seems a little off in their classifications. Verbal commits gets their info from the profiles...they take each players profile fron ESPN, rivals,and I forgot the 3rd...and list the players position from all 3....they use the reported list of offers and plug the player in for that team with that position. ..they do not get any info from coaches...so there are a lot of players recruited for positions that are different than they have listed Oliver is a 2/3 for the Saints...at least that's what he played in Montreal ...he only played the 3 when he was in with Audu....but Montreal was a tryout. ...I think he will play almost all of his minutes at the 2 Cole can prob play 1-3...but I agree that Oliver is less 3 than him...Cole has a really good handle and can score whenever he wants. ...Wright is a better pg though |
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