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Post by billmurray on Apr 4, 2024 19:46:21 GMT -5
Good for him. I would prefer a degree from GT over U Oklahoma any day. I'm sure he will do well there.
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 4, 2024 20:49:09 GMT -5
Good for him. I would prefer a degree from GT over U Oklahoma any day. I'm sure he will do well there. Another underwear change. Last one. I’m sure he will have some fond memories of his college stays. 🤦🏻♂️ These guys are like itinerant musicians doing a gig and moving onto the next one. Going to 3 schools used to be a sign of trouble. Now it’s normal.
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Post by greengold4ever on Apr 5, 2024 6:09:52 GMT -5
Good for him. I would prefer a degree from GT over U Oklahoma any day. I'm sure he will do well there. Another underwear change. Last one. I’m sure he will have some fond memories of his college stays. 🤦🏻♂️ These guys are like itinerant musicians doing a gig and moving onto the next one. Going to 3 schools used to be a sign of trouble. Now it’s normal. 3 schools?.............try 4, just ask Don Carey and Colby Rogers and very soon Durugordon...........oddly enough the other thing they all have in common along with McCollum is a short stint in Loudonville.........
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Post by lakeshore7778 on Apr 5, 2024 7:58:44 GMT -5
Another underwear change. Last one. I’m sure he will have some fond memories of his college stays. 🤦🏻♂️ These guys are like itinerant musicians doing a gig and moving onto the next one. Going to 3 schools used to be a sign of trouble. Now it’s normal. 3 schools?.............try 4, just ask Don Carey and Colby Rogers and very soon Durugordon...........oddly enough the other thing they all have in common along with McCollum is a short stint in Loudonville......... Be careful of throwing stones from glass houses… Siena target Alec Oglesby’s already at his third school. Cleveland State, UNCW, Stetson.
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Apr 5, 2024 7:59:23 GMT -5
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Post by Quackman on Apr 5, 2024 7:59:23 GMT -5
Kinda funny. Posters are on here hoping for transfers to pick Siena, but hating on those that left. I hate the NIL era as much as anyone, but it is what it is.
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Post by greengold4ever on Apr 5, 2024 8:03:00 GMT -5
Kinda funny. Posters are on here hoping for transfers to pick Siena, but hating on those that left. I hate the NIL era as much as anyone, but it is what it is. who is hating...........just posting facts.......
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Apr 5, 2024 8:52:58 GMT -5
Post by hoopdad on Apr 5, 2024 8:52:58 GMT -5
The players are taking full advantage of the system that the NCAA has put in place and maximizing their potential while they can. Is that not the American way?
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Post by greengold4ever on Apr 5, 2024 9:03:31 GMT -5
The players are taking full advantage of the system that the NCAA has put in place and maximizing their potential while they can. Is that not the American way? ok, devils advocate here.............all of this you point out is true, but at the end of the day, are all these athletes playing some kind of pro ball, and for how long?..........and if so when that type of career is over, then what happens?........are the countless # of student athletes that have transferred multiple times to different schools even have a degree?.........does the NCAA even care about that?..........just saying........
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Post by lakeshore7778 on Apr 5, 2024 9:22:06 GMT -5
The players are taking full advantage of the system that the NCAA has put in place and maximizing their potential while they can. Is that not the American way? ok, devils advocate here.............all of this you point out is true, but at the end of the day, are all these athletes playing some kind of pro ball, and for how long?..........and if so when that type of career is over, then what happens?........are the countless # of student athletes that have transferred multiple times to different schools even have a degree?.........does the NCAA even care about that?..........just saying........ All good points, but I wouldn't necessarily blame the NCAA. If it were up to the NCAA we'd still have transfer rules, no ability for an athlete to earn money while in college, and stronger academic requirements. (Granted that's assuming they enforced their own rules.) The majority of kids who play college sports - even at the D1 level - will never get farther than college sports. I feel sorry for those of them chasing the NIL $ in college. They'll never get to experience the enjoyment of having been part of a team over an extended period of time, or gaining friendships you can't make if you only spend two semesters at each school, or potentially spending five years of your life and possibly not ending up with a single degree. .
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Post by sienabkenny on Apr 5, 2024 9:28:54 GMT -5
The players are taking full advantage of the system that the NCAA has put in place and maximizing their potential while they can. Is that not the American way? ok, devils advocate here.............all of this you point out is true, but at the end of the day, are all these athletes playing some kind of pro ball, and for how long?..........and if so when that type of career is over, then what happens?........are the countless # of student athletes that have transferred multiple times to different schools even have a degree?.........does the NCAA even care about that?..........just saying........ That’s the point though many of them won’t become millionaires as pros so they’re deciding to cash in now. If Javian was making between 100-200K at OU this past year and GT offered him between 300-500K to play there it makes perfect sense (I don’t know the exact numbers but it’s probably a fairly realistic estimate). Sure, I worry if these kids will get degrees but if you have a good agent maybe they could negotiate a deal that the school has to let you finish your degree for free regardless of time. It’s horrible for the health of the sport but it makes sense for the individual.
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Apr 5, 2024 10:00:36 GMT -5
Post by lakeshore7778 on Apr 5, 2024 10:00:36 GMT -5
ok, devils advocate here.............all of this you point out is true, but at the end of the day, are all these athletes playing some kind of pro ball, and for how long?..........and if so when that type of career is over, then what happens?........are the countless # of student athletes that have transferred multiple times to different schools even have a degree?.........does the NCAA even care about that?..........just saying........ That’s the point though many of them won’t become millionaires as pros so they’re deciding to cash in now. If Javian was making between 100-200K at OU this past year and GT offered him between 300-500K to play there it makes perfect sense (I don’t know the exact numbers but it’s probably fairly realistic estimate). Sure, I worry if these kids will get degrees but if you have a good agent maybe they could negotiate a deal that the school has to let you finish your degree for free regardless of time. It’s horrible for the health of the sport but it makes sense for the individual. I'm not so sure it's healthy for the individuals, either. I wonder how many schools with NIL consortiums providing that kind of money have support in place to make sure their student athletes are knowledgeable on how to take advantage of it - and keep it. Plenty of NFL, NBA, and MLB stories of players going bankrupt making orders of magnitude more money than what NILs can provide.
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Post by sienabkenny on Apr 5, 2024 10:12:53 GMT -5
That’s the point though many of them won’t become millionaires as pros so they’re deciding to cash in now. If Javian was making between 100-200K at OU this past year and GT offered him between 300-500K to play there it makes perfect sense (I don’t know the exact numbers but it’s probably fairly realistic estimate). Sure, I worry if these kids will get degrees but if you have a good agent maybe they could negotiate a deal that the school has to let you finish your degree for free regardless of time. It’s horrible for the health of the sport but it makes sense for the individual. I'm not so sure it's healthy for the individuals, either. I wonder how many schools with NIL consortiums providing that kind of money have support in place to make sure their student athletes are knowledgeable on how to take advantage of it - and keep it. Plenty of NFL, NBA, and MLB stories of players going bankrupt making orders of magnitude more money than what NILs can provide. Yes, that’s true also. The kids who chase NIL are missing out on other aspects of the college experience.
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Post by gosaints00 on Apr 5, 2024 10:24:57 GMT -5
Javian who?
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Post by CellarRat on Apr 5, 2024 10:25:05 GMT -5
Kinda funny. Posters are on here hoping for transfers to pick Siena, but hating on those that left. I hate the NIL era as much as anyone, but it is what it is. I don’t see anyone “hating” on here. I don’t think Dan Hurley and other coaches making these comments are hating on anyone. It’s what college basketball has become and they don’t like it. If that is hating, I guess I’m a hater.
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Apr 5, 2024 10:33:52 GMT -5
Post by hoopdad on Apr 5, 2024 10:33:52 GMT -5
The players are taking full advantage of the system that the NCAA has put in place and maximizing their potential while they can. Is that not the American way? ok, devils advocate here.............all of this you point out is true, but at the end of the day, are all these athletes playing some kind of pro ball, and for how long?..........and if so when that type of career is over, then what happens?........are the countless # of student athletes that have transferred multiple times to different schools even have a degree?.........does the NCAA even care about that?..........just saying........ All you points are valid too. Current system has a lot of flaws that need to be addressed. Seems that amateur status in college athletics is dead.
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