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Post by sienabkenny on Mar 13, 2024 16:14:00 GMT -5
Frank Ambrose hasn’t tweeted about the Men’s team in months. How is there going to be any sort of rebuild or roster improvement when the guy who runs the collective has no trust in the HC?
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Post by hoopdad on Mar 13, 2024 16:19:37 GMT -5
Frank Ambrose hasn’t tweeted about the Men’s team in months. How is there going to be any sort of rebuild or roster improvement when the guy who runs the collective has no trust in the HC? Agreed, did everyone running Saints March On die or did they march out of the country while Carm crashed and burned the program and their NIL players? They have been completely radio silent during the last half of Carm's record breaking meltdown of a season. Not sure how they expect to get support if they aren't communicating to the fanbase and those who might fund the collective. My wallet is closed to anything Siena for the foreseeable future. I refuse to fund this shit show. Can we point to anything positive these days when it comes to Siena Men's basketball? Anything?
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Post by showbiz on Mar 13, 2024 16:23:55 GMT -5
BOT can't be too scared of future or spending money they just acquired the Master of Arts in Teaching Program from Clarkson University. This includes 16 fully accredited graduate programs in education. Pretty bold move I would say.
If they don't fire Carmen its because they have a soft spot for him being a local boy, former player and Siena graduate and the countless good deeds he does in the community. We are talking about Franciscans here.
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Post by bigsaintg on Mar 13, 2024 16:47:10 GMT -5
I think the school is back on solid financial footing
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Post by gradfan on Mar 13, 2024 16:48:38 GMT -5
Siena will not make any announcement regarding Carm because he will return as coach. If they post a press release saying he will return it gives the impression they considered firing him. That will not happen, especially with the amount of talent he needs to recruit. Players don’t want to play for him now. Good luck getting anything with talent if 2025 recruits think he’s on the way out. Siena having the money, but not wanting to part with it to buyout a contract are two different things. The school isn’t going to buyout Carm for $400K and pay someone else $350K to coach next season. Spending $750 K on head coaches next season – 400K to pay a person not to coach – several years after the school mandated a 10 percent pay cut for all employees to eliminate the school’s debt does not make for happy employees or good optics. A wealthy donor could buy out the contract. A wealthy alum/donor could endow the position, like the bigger P5 conferences do with their football coaches. But, do you think anyone is going to step forward with $300 to $400K per year with D’Argenio doing the hiring? Who would want their name associated with any of the previous hires since Fran left.' Siena’s endowment is pretty solid compared to other schools in the MAAC. However, that doesn’t mean the BOT will use any of it on athletic programs. I am told the BOT is guarding that endowment like their daughter’s honor or prom night. Get used to hearing how Siena will be responsible financially, frugal, thrifty and down-right cheap in coming years with small private schools about to get hit with a drop in enrollment. Difficult decisions are on the horizon, from academics to athletics. If the BOT wants to start saving money, it is time to clean out that entire over paid athletic administration. The stench from the old men’s laziness while collecting really good paychecks permeates Rte. 9 and Spring Street in Loudonville. It’s been that way for years. There are members of the BOT who would be perfectly fine if Siena dropped down to the Liberty League to play RPI, Union, Skidmore twice a year rather than play in the MAAC. D-3 athletics are a heck of a lot cheaper than D-1 athletics. These BOT members built their reputations being successful. They sure as hell aren’t going to risk that reputation with if the school falls into financial hardship. What happened to St. Rose literally scared the San Pellegrino out of the BOT. The group is paranoid about staying in the black financially and will not hesitate to make the decisions for that to happen. Season-ticket holders will get a letter acknowledging a disappointing season and that members of the athletic department are going to roll up their sleeves to guarantee it doesn’t happen next season. Carm will talk about playing up-tempo (he will still try to win games 54-52 next season) a new recruiting strategy (maybe the staff leaves campus 2 days per open period rather than 1) and will focus on JUCOs and maybe 1 player from the portal. A better philosophy would be lighting daily candles at the Grotto to pray for at least Division I-caliber point guard who can handle the ball and doesn’t get beat 5 or 6 times per game on defense because of poor and sloppy footwork – crossing their feet while a quicker guard with the ball blows by them on the way to the basket. And without change, next season will my seventh without a season ticket after the family had them every year starting when the ARC opened – when Kirsh coached and Brooks, Walters, Cahill, Holle and Smith knew how to play and win games. AMEN !! You hit the nail squarely on the head !!
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Post by saints15 on Mar 13, 2024 17:12:29 GMT -5
Frank Ambrose hasn’t tweeted about the Men’s team in months. How is there going to be any sort of rebuild or roster improvement when the guy who runs the collective has no trust in the HC? Agreed, did everyone running Saints March On die or did they march out of the country while Carm crashed and burned the program and their NIL players? They have been completely radio silent during the last half of Carm's record breaking meltdown of a season. Not sure how they expect to get support if they aren't communicating to the fanbase and those who might fund the collective. My wallet is closed to anything Siena for the foreseeable future. I refuse to fund this shit show. Can we point to anything positive these days when it comes to Siena Men's basketball? Anything? “Can we point to anything positive these days when it comes to Siena Men's basketball? Anything?”…. Does the season being over count? 🤦♂️
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Post by glen on Mar 13, 2024 17:24:56 GMT -5
The NIL doesn't have $$ on their own...they need to raise funds. Who is going to donate to this mess? I'm sure as hell not. What advertiser wants their product associated with Siena Hoop? County Waste? The school can be frugal - fine...how do they think the fan base is going to react? OK, so Siena is saving $ but wants me to pony up for next season? Economically, things aren't good. My wife applied for a clerical job and there were 150 applicants. People have way better uses for that money than bolstering Siena while they trudge on with poor hires and poor leadership. I seriously think they expect people are just going to renew. I warned them!
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Post by MTS on Mar 13, 2024 18:47:35 GMT -5
Imagine a guy like Lanier hearing this news? In 4 years he got to the big dance, the NIT and had a bad 4th year. Gets fired. Wow. People need to see past this 4-28 season. Id categorize the 2 years before this failures. Especially last year with the amount of talent and experience we had. He stays, and this program will lose a significant amount of fans. Lanier was our best “bad” coach but he still had to go. Wasn’t ready and Siena replaced him with the best coach in program history. Rob was not ready and was stubborn not unlike Carm.
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Post by MTS on Mar 13, 2024 18:49:51 GMT -5
These guys don’t know anything. I still think there’s a good chance Siena and Carm will agree to a “parting”. Might not be announced for a little while though which is stupid in the transfer portal era. This is because the president (Chuck Seifert) is dealing with other issues currently.
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Post by Tony on Mar 13, 2024 19:15:42 GMT -5
With the transfer portal you turn any team around rather quickly, but Carm has not really been too aggressive in there even leaving this years team shorthanded, so he has to go there is no hope. Nobody wants to play for Carm- I just dont trust Darg to hire new coach, and cant retire AD and fire coach same time-- but then again cant get worse can it?
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Post by SIENA1971 on Mar 13, 2024 19:37:49 GMT -5
With the transfer portal you turn any team around rather quickly, but Carm has not really been too aggressive in there even leaving this years team shorthanded, so he has to go there is no hope. Nobody wants to play for Carm- I just dont trust Darg to hire new coach, and cant retire AD and fire coach same time-- but then again cant get worse can it? Well Siena does have a backup AD waiting in the wings 😉
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Post by bigdog76 on Mar 13, 2024 19:48:52 GMT -5
What lessons can be learned from Colgate? I'll start....begin with a good coach.
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Post by bluegold85 on Mar 13, 2024 21:18:43 GMT -5
Frank Ambrose hasn’t tweeted about the Men’s team in months. How is there going to be any sort of rebuild or roster improvement when the guy who runs the collective has no trust in the HC? Agreed, did everyone running Saints March On die or did they march out of the country while Carm crashed and burned the program and their NIL players? They have been completely radio silent during the last half of Carm's record breaking meltdown of a season. Not sure how they expect to get support if they aren't communicating to the fanbase and those who might fund the collective. My wallet is closed to anything Siena for the foreseeable future. I refuse to fund this shit show. Can we point to anything positive these days when it comes to Siena Men's basketball? Anything? SMO is still alive and well. Haven't had much to tweet about given the course of the season, specifically about MBB. Certainly as disappointed as anyone on these boards as to how things went. But we went into this understanding that NIL was necessary to compete and we still believe that. We've learned quite a bit over the course of our first year and will be making some changes in our operation and strategy including new ways to raise NIL $ and how we allocate those funds. Lots to consider as we head into this offseason but you can be sure SMO will be in the mix as the portal opens up on March 18. Also, keep an eye on our WBB team. Coach Jim has a special core of players and a great class coming in. I expect them to make some noise in AC again this year and remember the collective was established for all Siena athletes not just MBB.
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Post by basilboy18 on Mar 14, 2024 11:18:56 GMT -5
According to my sources, Siena President Chuck Seifert is on vacation this week. I'm guessing that means no decision on the future of the basketball program until next week at the earliest.
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Post by sienabkenny on Mar 14, 2024 11:24:41 GMT -5
According to my sources, Siena President Chuck Seifert is on vacation this week. I'm guessing that means no decision on the future of the basketball program until next week at the earliest. By tomorrow afternoon they should either fire Carm or leak that he is staying.
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