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Post by indian82 on May 18, 2018 16:00:01 GMT -5
So, JC is just going to sign all of Patsos' backup recruits? Cool yo. From a few videos I’ve seen kid looks to have ability and is a 3 star recruit. Know he’s had injury issues this year but looks to be worth a look by JC. Who gives a shit of Patsos once recruited him...let JC take look and determine if there’s enough potential... youtu.be/qjpWyg3OyTwI agree. Patsos recruited many and couldn't seal the deal on good ones. That doesn't bother me - esp at this late date. We have 2 schollys now, right? And 3 become available normally next year. If JC thinks its worth it, I am not one to object. Just don't lose him because you can't show him around.
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Post by OneIndian on May 18, 2018 16:00:09 GMT -5
From a few videos I’ve seen kid looks to have ability and is a 3 star recruit. Know he’s had injury issues this year but looks to be worth a look by JC. Who gives a shit of Patsos once recruited him...let JC take look and determine if there’s enough potential... youtu.be/qjpWyg3OyTwMy point is it's all three of Seymour, Pickett, and Zachery. I get one. But all 3 former Jimmy recruits? I like Pickett and not arguing there. I liked Zachery once upon a time too. It's just curious that a commodity as well known as Zachery fell off everyone's lists. Why? Wish I knew why but I would hope if there are underlying issues JC would ferret them out quickly and move on. But he’s certainly worth a look. I can only go by what I’ve seen and I do like his game.
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Post by Sienafan on May 18, 2018 16:03:13 GMT -5
So, JC is just going to sign all of Patsos' backup recruits? Cool yo. How do you figure he was a backup recruit? A broken wrist curtailed recruitment that was heading into high-major territory. He was teammates with Welch and Pickett, and by all accounts Patsos coveted him just as much. But much like Welch and Timberlake, he couldn't seal the deal quickly. He's a 3 star recruit at the PG position. They should grab him. I betcha Christian gets a commitment if he gets this kid on campus. He may well make you forget all about Penn.
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Post by indian82 on May 18, 2018 16:03:21 GMT -5
From a few videos I’ve seen kid looks to have ability and is a 3 star recruit. Know he’s had injury issues this year but looks to be worth a look by JC. Who gives a shit of Patsos once recruited him...let JC take look and determine if there’s enough potential... youtu.be/qjpWyg3OyTwMy point is it's all three of Seymour, Pickett, and Zachery. I get one. But all 3 former Jimmy recruits? I like Pickett and not arguing there. I liked Zachery once upon a time too. It's just curious that a commodity as well known as Zachery fell off everyone's lists. Why? Broke his wrist, for one.
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Post by Sienafan on May 18, 2018 16:15:04 GMT -5
From a few videos I’ve seen kid looks to have ability and is a 3 star recruit. Know he’s had injury issues this year but looks to be worth a look by JC. Who gives a shit of Patsos once recruited him...let JC take look and determine if there’s enough potential... youtu.be/qjpWyg3OyTwMy point is it's all three of Seymour, Pickett, and Zachery. I get one. But all 3 former Jimmy recruits? I like Pickett and not arguing there. I liked Zachery once upon a time too. It's just curious that a commodity as well known as Zachery fell off everyone's lists. Why? Broke his wrist and missed his junior season. Then interest dried up, so he decided to attend prep school. Jimmy was going after local kids, and now so is Christian. It's just a coincidence, with the common thread being both of them having been employed at the same local Div. 1 college near where these dudes played. It's actually a smart play if you're looking for a quick recruiting score. They're already familiar with the school. JC just needs to sell himself.
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Post by greenblood on May 18, 2018 16:15:42 GMT -5
Did anyone ever really continue to believe that JP had any shot at sealing the deal with a highly touted recruit? C'mon now....as I have always said...your past performance record speaks for itself.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 16:22:56 GMT -5
My point is people can't have it both ways. These are guys that Jimmy clearly prioritized Baker, Timberlake, and Welch over.
Baker was scooped up quickly. Timberlake is off the table to Towson and ranked highly on NERR. Welch went higher than us.
They're all gone. Scooped up by others fast. Yet these guys remain. I get that it's late and beggars can't be too choosy, I'm just noting the irony.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 16:29:01 GMT -5
So, JC is just going to sign all of Patsos' backup recruits? Cool yo. How do you figure he was a backup recruit? A broken wrist curtailed recruitment that was heading into high-major territory. He was teammates with Welch and Pickett, and by all accounts Patsos coveted him just as much. But much like Welch and Timberlake, he couldn't seal the deal quickly. He's a 3 star recruit at the PG position. They should grab him. I betcha Christian gets a commitment if he gets this kid on campus. He may well make you forget all about Penn. If he's so good and healthy, what school is he committed to now that it's May? Why did NERR rank him so low? I liked him before on face value. That's before everyone ran from him like he had the plague.
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Post by Sienafan on May 18, 2018 16:50:16 GMT -5
My point is people can't have it both ways. These are guys that Jimmy clearly prioritized Baker, Timberlake, and Welch over. Baker was scooped up quickly. Timberlake is off the table to Towson and ranked highly on NERR. Welch went higher than us. They're all gone. Scooped up by others fast. Yet these guys remain. I get that it's late and beggars can't be too choosy, I'm just noting the irony. He prioritized Zachery too. Had him on campus around the same time as the rest. Why he hasn't been scooped up as well is beyond me. There doesn't seem to be anything out there about how he did at prep at Springfield Commonwealth Academy. So maybe something didn't go well at prep. He claimed Dayton, Oregon State, Massachusetts, St. Bonaventure showed interest but wanted to see him play live before offering. None of them ended up offering. So was it because they didn't get a chance to see him play...or they did and didn't like what they saw? Who knows?
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Post by Sienafan on May 18, 2018 16:53:22 GMT -5
How do you figure he was a backup recruit? A broken wrist curtailed recruitment that was heading into high-major territory. He was teammates with Welch and Pickett, and by all accounts Patsos coveted him just as much. But much like Welch and Timberlake, he couldn't seal the deal quickly. He's a 3 star recruit at the PG position. They should grab him. I betcha Christian gets a commitment if he gets this kid on campus. He may well make you forget all about Penn. If he's so good and healthy, what school is he committed to now that it's May? Why did NERR rank him so low? I liked him before on face value. That's before everyone ran from him like he had the plague. Did some digging. He has his own thread on a Syracuse board. One poster claims in a 2017 post that he had some unspecified off the court issues. syracusefan.com/threads/pg-malik-zachery-ny.76785/page-7
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Post by mjs72 on May 18, 2018 17:06:01 GMT -5
Coaches think they are the one to get kids on the straight and narrow. Jimmy must have thought he could handle Nico. JC now needs a PG and may need to take a chance on this kid. I would think though he would have thoroughly vetted this kid.
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Post by indian82 on May 18, 2018 17:08:06 GMT -5
How do you figure he was a backup recruit? A broken wrist curtailed recruitment that was heading into high-major territory. He was teammates with Welch and Pickett, and by all accounts Patsos coveted him just as much. But much like Welch and Timberlake, he couldn't seal the deal quickly. He's a 3 star recruit at the PG position. They should grab him. I betcha Christian gets a commitment if he gets this kid on campus. He may well make you forget all about Penn. If he's so good and healthy, what school is he committed to now that it's May? Why did NERR rank him so low? I liked him before on face value. That's before everyone ran from him like he had the plague. OK - And he could be a diamond in the rough that polishes up nice. I have no choice but to trust the coach whose job depends on finding kids to play for him. And this one does not seem like he sells used cars.
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Post by indian82 on May 18, 2018 17:24:22 GMT -5
If he's so good and healthy, what school is he committed to now that it's May? Why did NERR rank him so low? I liked him before on face value. That's before everyone ran from him like he had the plague. Did some digging. He has his own thread on a Syracuse board. One poster claims in a 2017 post that he had some unspecified off the court issues. syracusefan.com/threads/pg-malik-zachery-ny.76785/page-7Thanks. And this comment seems to defuse those concerns. And that post was over a year ago and referenced something in the past at the time, so I assume the kid was barely 15. People change and kids deserve second chances.
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Post by Sienafan on May 18, 2018 17:49:38 GMT -5
How do you figure he was a backup recruit? A broken wrist curtailed recruitment that was heading into high-major territory. He was teammates with Welch and Pickett, and by all accounts Patsos coveted him just as much. But much like Welch and Timberlake, he couldn't seal the deal quickly. He's a 3 star recruit at the PG position. They should grab him. I betcha Christian gets a commitment if he gets this kid on campus. He may well make you forget all about Penn. If he's so good and healthy, what school is he committed to now that it's May? Why did NERR rank him so low? I liked him before on face value. That's before everyone ran from him like he had the plague. You know, a little perspective is needed here. When you get hired late and get a late start at recruiting for your new school, the guys that nobody has scooped up yet for whatever reason are the guys you're gonna get by definition. Perfectly acceptable under the circumstances. Such guys aren't necessarily defective. Hasbrouck was one such guy. If we approach it from your perspective, he's a great catch that we would've thrown back and Siena likely has two less titles under it's belt. I think Pickett, Zachery, and Zdor are all players not snatched up sooner for whatever reason that can be good players for Siena. In my opinion, if JC lands those 3 along with Seymour - that's an outstanding first recruiting class for a guy that started in May. Dude has landed everyone he's had on campus so far. So I like our chances if he sets up visits. Can't wait to see what he has up his sleeve for the 2019 class.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 18, 2018 22:06:58 GMT -5
Let's keep the "everyone that has visited campus he's got" theory in perspective. Usually kids that visit places in Mid-May, it's their last shot.
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