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Post by OneIndian on Feb 11, 2018 11:50:09 GMT -5
And there you go, step one a bandaid in an attempt to stop the hemorrhaging. Programs in trouble! They've had $5 tickets forever. Periodically yes. I think you’ll be seeing more promos and giveways trying to get more people into the TU. Turnstile counts in the 2500-3000 range ain’t gonna cut it....I’m sure they’re not meeting anticipated numbers with the TU. Might as well move back to the ARC.
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Post by indian82 on Feb 11, 2018 11:50:29 GMT -5
I for one will post until the College gets the message. Like I said before as attendance (fans actually through the turnstiles) declines sharply that’ll be the final straw. We’re well on our way... I have no doubt the College is aware of this board, and this board is microcosm of a larger segment. Most basketball fans in the area are well aware this product is bad. $5 tickets tomorrow. Should help the turnstiles. Maybe MTS will show. And that's about the only good info you provide or care about on this team. What a fan. SMH
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Post by hoopdad on Feb 11, 2018 11:56:56 GMT -5
When is the local media going to start asking the hard questions regarding Patsos' future? D'Argenio and Brother Ed need to be questioned regarding the current state of the program, JP's status and the Saints' future. Corporate sponsors, season ticket holders and supporters of the program deserve answers. If this was any other College in an a bigger market, with the history that Siena has, those questions would be being asked. Local sports media needs to start doing their jobs. Sports rarely get deep investigative coverage nor should they - its entertainment for those who enjoy competition. Now if some of the sponsors start to publicly question the return on their investment it might spark an editorial but that's probably it. Barring some moral turpitude or illegal activity Sponsors, Boosters, Alumni, the MAAC, TUC etc are the only forces that can force Siena's hand. Asking the questions that I have proposed is hardly deep investigative coverage. Simple questions on the status of the flagship sports team in the Albany market. A team that is failing significantly against its stated goals and its achievements of the past. No investigation needed. Just asking those in charge the simple questions.
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Post by greengold4ever on Feb 11, 2018 11:56:59 GMT -5
And there you go, step one a bandaid in an attempt to stop the hemorrhaging. Programs in trouble! They've had $5 tickets forever. and even with that (along with those special give away's to area youth programs).......the average attendance during Patsos era is LESS than that of the Mitch era, how telling is that..........you saw those numbers recently, so you cannot justify any argument in that regard........not to mention this yr, with the home games being blacked out locally, you cannot even use the "game is on TV" argument to draw less people...........folks are staying away, both in the walk up, and more dramatically those that have already paid for a ticket have decided they would rather miss the game and be out the money from their pocket than attend, that is a major major issue...................
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Post by Papi on Feb 11, 2018 12:33:22 GMT -5
MP, it wasn't a shot at KH. The guy is a great player and you are correct about one thing he has nothing to do with anything with what's going on at Siena. It's a shot at all of the negatives posted day in and day out on the coaching staff and administration by you and your fellow haters. While you reserve ALL your negatives toward the players. I will ask you again: 4.75 years into the 5 year plan. Is our HC earning his money. You can probably go back to his comments an be able to know he has not performed up to anybody's expectations. Almost 8 years in and we haven't 'sniffed' a regular season title. One year in 3rd. I am not sure what you consider good performance in your job for whatever your income, but this is WAY sub-par to most people. Wrong guy to ask if he's or anyone is worth their salary. I'm grossly under paid but I love what I do. If I was paid $440k a year I would do my job the same. I don't envy anyone who makes money and isn't deserving of it. Sounds like you might be envious.
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 11, 2018 12:54:02 GMT -5
I for one will post until the College gets the message. Like I said before as attendance (fans actually through the turnstiles) declines sharply that’ll be the final straw. We’re well on our way... I have no doubt the College is aware of this board, and this board is microcosm of a larger segment/sentiment. Most basketball fans in the area are well aware this product is bad. TheBaltimoreMullet said: when perusing these pages they are acutely aware where they went wrong with some of the alumni that act like spoiled children Yeah that’s it.......lmao Do you come up with these brilliant takes all by yourself or are you ”wordsmithing” with Jumbo?
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Post by thebaltimorebullett on Feb 11, 2018 14:40:00 GMT -5
leave a best wishes on the coaches phone for most every game when he s on the way to gym, always a message - more than 20 years now
never discussed this forum with him or michelle, but she has been distant since she found out I bet Trump in the general and cleaned house
no sir I learned my letters from authers, with so much as a hs degree and hanging around intelligent people. I would never speak for anyone else or tell him how to do his job
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Post by nolesaint on Feb 11, 2018 16:57:56 GMT -5
Sports rarely get deep investigative coverage nor should they - its entertainment for those who enjoy competition. Now if some of the sponsors start to publicly question the return on their investment it might spark an editorial but that's probably it. Barring some moral turpitude or illegal activity Sponsors, Boosters, Alumni, the MAAC, TUC etc are the only forces that can force Siena's hand. Asking the questions that I have proposed is hardly deep investigative coverage. Simple questions on the status of the flagship sports team in the Albany market. A team that is failing significantly against its stated goals and its achievements of the past. No investigation needed. Just asking those in charge the simple questions. So who, meaning which reporter or editor, asks these questions? What section of the paper does it appear in? What do you think happens once it appears in the paper? Have you ever seen anything like what your asking for ever in any main stream media publication? From time to time there will be stories about business deals related to professional teams or how tax dollars are being spent on sports franchises but I truly do not recall ever seeing something like what you've mentioned where a newspaper begins asking hard questions of a small private school about the their sports programs. I know this can read like I'm fighting or picking at you but that truly is not my intent rather I'd like to see folks stay focused on actions/inaction that can bring about change.
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Post by thebaltimorebullett on Feb 11, 2018 17:18:26 GMT -5
do yourself a favor and stop watching chuck toad
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Post by indian82 on Feb 11, 2018 19:14:16 GMT -5
While you reserve ALL your negatives toward the players. I will ask you again: 4.75 years into the 5 year plan. Is our HC earning his money. You can probably go back to his comments an be able to know he has not performed up to anybody's expectations. Almost 8 years in and we haven't 'sniffed' a regular season title. One year in 3rd. I am not sure what you consider good performance in your job for whatever your income, but this is WAY sub-par to most people. Wrong guy to ask if he's or anyone is worth their salary. I'm grossly under paid but I love what I do. If I was paid $440k a year I would do my job the same. I don't envy anyone who makes money and isn't deserving of it. Sounds like you might be envious. Don't make it about you. $330K. sub .500, no seniors, nothing better than 3rd in the MAAC, no 'N" tournaments almost a full 5 years in.. A lot of negatives in that description. Yet you continue to criticize only the 18-22 year old college kids. I'm not surprised.
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Post by thebaltimorebullett on Feb 11, 2018 19:57:53 GMT -5
'look babe,it s me not you'- yea right that checks in the mail. higher education, and the last I checked this is college not middle school - is about finding truth and learn responsibility.
I would like to think there is a charter and guidelines for the mens team - not a single one of your snipes are conditions spelled out in a contract registered in the state of NY
and furthermore who are you to say what someone elses value is - especially since it s not your dime. tell me anybody, no matter how much they make that doesn t deep down inside think they are underpaid. I find it ironic that such high minded grads of siena college that care so deeply about the rep of the institution has a message board for board for the ball team - while I m still lookin for all you citizens to tell me where to find the board about the proffessors, their methods, vacations, social habits and hair styles or what have you. after that excercise point me in the direction of the diversity officer - they average 475k at the top 50 schools. what s their deal and where do they eat lunch - how about the paper put an eye on that.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 11, 2018 20:09:37 GMT -5
'look babe,it s me not you'- yea right that checks in the mail. higher education, and the last I checked this is college not middle school - is about finding truth and learn responsibility. I would like to think there is a charter and guidelines for the mens team - not a single one of your snipes are conditions spelled out in a contract registered in the state of NY and furthermore who are you to say what someone elses value is - especially since it s not your dime. tell me anybody, no matter how much they make that doesn t deep down inside think they are underpaid. I find it ironic that such high minded grads of siena college that care so deeply about the rep of the institution has a message board for board for the ball team - while I m still lookin for all you citizens to tell me where to find the board about the proffessors, their methods, vacations, social habits and hair styles or what have you. after that excercise point me in the direction of the diversity officer - they average 475k at the top 50 schools. what s their deal and where do they eat lunch - how about the paper put an eye on that. . Get real Siena has already fired three coaches, not one of them for cause other than poor basketball. Every coach that comes in here knows the deal —- win and you are set up for a multimillion dollar payday. Lose and it’s back to the drawing board. No amount of sniping or griping is going to change the fact that as of now Siena chooses to charge more than double on average for its product and gets it on faith that the product will eventually be as promised. Now if that has changed you will see movement in the other direction but again that will be Siena’s choice not the fans’.
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Post by thebaltimorebullett on Feb 11, 2018 20:22:44 GMT -5
trust me, whoever looks at the opening at siena college will be well aware that the last four guys took a dirtnap, and truth be told the guy before that maybe wanted to leave town - and it wasn t all about the money. is that real enough
following your logic paydays from receivables should be comencerate with performance.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 11, 2018 20:26:51 GMT -5
trust me, whoever looks at the opening at siena college will be well aware that the last four guys took a dirtnap, and truth be told the guy before that maybe wanted to leave town - and it wasn t all about the money. is that real enough following your logic paydays from receivables should be comencerate with performance. That’s not even close to accurate despite what you and your ilk will be saying when the time comes.
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Post by thebaltimorebullett on Feb 11, 2018 21:54:27 GMT -5
enlighten me, please show you re not an empty chair
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