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Post by MTS on Feb 7, 2018 17:44:56 GMT -5
Why would any self respecting coach ever put up with that working arrangement when it’s his name, career and reputation on the line. That’s not logical and makes no sense? I generally find when something doesn’t compute an element of truth is lacking. Logical? lol So by our logic he should have walked away from 1.2 million last year?? After the blow up vs Canisius, yeah, his bosses had him by the short hairs. Your element of truth comment is funny. Guy admittingly fighting for his coaching life is gonna kick, the ONLY (most of your opinions) legit player he has on his roster, off the team?? And just give me one logical reason why Wormley left Aug 14th if the reason i gave you wasnt true? If he was "run off" he'd be at another school by April. And why did he go to a JC school? Did JP fail his classes for him? You giuys can hate 24/7, I'm over it, but try to keep it a little real. You contracted yourself. How did they have him "by the short hairs" if they owed him $1.2M last year? Patsos should have dared them to fire him. But according to you he agrees to be a puppet? Doesn't make sense. If it really is true what a dysfunction program from the top down.
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Post by MTS on Feb 7, 2018 17:46:45 GMT -5
So lets get the $800K check signed and we can all get back on the same page....rooting for Siena to win basketball games. On that ☝️I agree. For the record I don’t buy into the team tank BS I haven’t been a season tix holder for decades to pull for Siena to lose. Believe me I'm not proud to root for tanking. At this point it doesn't matter they simply aren't good enough to beat anyone. But answer me this honestly would you rather win 10 games and Patsos comes back or win 8 games and he gets fired?
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Post by Papi on Feb 7, 2018 17:56:57 GMT -5
On that ☝️I agree. For the record I don’t buy into the team tank BS I haven’t been a season tix holder for decades to pull for Siena to lose. Believe me I'm not proud to root for tanking. At this point it doesn't matter they simply aren't good enough to beat anyone. But answer me this honestly would you rather win 10 games and Patsos comes back or win 8 games and he gets fired? You've already bailed. Why do you care?
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Post by rickyp on Feb 7, 2018 17:58:29 GMT -5
I don't know we don't know but somebody knows.The more this season goes the more things come out be it true or not.But things are looking like chaos and the storm hasn't even came.I said that March/April is important time be it JP or administration.If your helping him with recruits you need to come out and say for sure he'll be back.If your still deciding you need to make a statement like UCONN just did.Either way i think the administration needs to say something asap for everyone involved.Your alumni boosters ,fans, recruits and current players.
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Post by MTS on Feb 7, 2018 17:59:06 GMT -5
Believe me I'm not proud to root for tanking. At this point it doesn't matter they simply aren't good enough to beat anyone. But answer me this honestly would you rather win 10 games and Patsos comes back or win 8 games and he gets fired? You've already bailed. Why do you care? I care but if Patsos remains I'll be off until he's gone.
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Post by billmurray on Feb 7, 2018 18:25:29 GMT -5
You've already bailed. Why do you care? I care but if Patsos remains I'll be off until he's gone. Mike, only paying customers impact the bottom line. You being on or off makes zero difference.
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Post by great10110 on Feb 7, 2018 18:30:07 GMT -5
I care but if Patsos remains I'll be off until he's gone. Mike, only paying customers impact the bottom line. You being on or off makes zero difference. Guy is a clown on Twitter me. Your act is getting old. What is the media going to get out of Siena? There not going to let anyone know there going to fire or retain the coach mid year, yet you want to respond to everything with your #firepatsos antics. And you wonder why recruits don’t want to play at Siena. Have to deal with clowns like yourself.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 7, 2018 18:33:23 GMT -5
Nah they all moved on because they had NBA aspirations. Jumbo’s on pace to lose over 70% of his first three recruiting classes with more to follow from year fours. That’s logical? ? No one said he wasnt at fault for some, or even most of the defections. But to constantly blame him for every kid that leaves is idiotic. I think it would be wise to give him his $800K and both parties move on. New coach means at least 5 new season ticket holders will come back, and one more that never went to game, and still wont, after a change. Thats a start. Either way the apathy on this board has become unbearable. I see no reason why any recruit would ever come here if they had access to this site. JP has ruined it, and the "fans" are trying their best to kill it altogether. If true you contributed plenty with your consistent “fan” criticism of the players.
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Post by hoopdad on Feb 7, 2018 18:36:12 GMT -5
So the reason why recruits are not coming to Siena is because of this board? Really? C'mon man! I think there are many reason why recruits do not end up as Saints. This board ain't one of them.
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Post by great10110 on Feb 7, 2018 18:54:42 GMT -5
So the reason why recruits are not coming to Siena is because of this board? Really? C'mon man! I think there are many reason why recruits do not end up as Saints. This board ain't one of them. Not saying it’s this board, but they do read them. Know for a fact city rock coaches do and they relay the messages. Don’t believe me? Welch knew all about everything being said and hasn’t committed because of fan speculation on coaching staff. He had a very good visit and his parents did as well. I’ll leave it at that.
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Post by OneIndian on Feb 7, 2018 18:59:42 GMT -5
No one said he wasnt at fault for some, or even most of the defections. But to constantly blame him for every kid that leaves is idiotic. I think it would be wise to give him his $800K and both parties move on. New coach means at least 5 new season ticket holders will come back, and one more that never went to game, and still wont, after a change. Thats a start. Either way the apathy on this board has become unbearable. I see no reason why any recruit would ever come here if they had access to this site. JP has ruined it, and the "fans" are trying their best to kill it altogether. If true you contributed plenty with your consistent “fan” criticism of the players. Also I might add... Apathy is a lack of interest... what I see is a fanbase that is interested and cares to a fault but is more than fed up with how this program has been run. At least that’s how I feel. This message board isn’t hindering the recruiting process, there’s only one individual responsible and we all know who that is....
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 19:02:58 GMT -5
So the reason why recruits are not coming to Siena is because of this board? Really? C'mon man! I think there are many reason why recruits do not end up as Saints. This board ain't one of them. Not saying it’s this board, but they do read them. Know for a fact city rock coaches do and they relay the messages. Don’t believe me? Welch knew all about everything being said and hasn’t committed because of fan speculation on coaching staff. He had a very good visit and his parents did as well. I’ll leave it at that. All a recruit has to do is a) look at our dismal record, b) check out our roster and class demographics, c) do some simple common core math comparing the # of seniors (ZERO for you folks at Stout) with the number of open offers (MORE THAN ZERO), d) watch the man in action, e) look at where we are in the standings, and f) ask themselves where do the openings come from (not like we've got NBA players getting ready to declare) - then make a decision - not too many of those REAL THINGS would paint a "OMG THERE IS PT THERE FOR MOI AND COACH PATSIE CAN COACH (hope I spelled that right coach - GO SIENNA!"
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Post by rickyp on Feb 7, 2018 19:17:56 GMT -5
I would hope that a recruit looking to come here wouldn't be thinking about us opinionated people.This is the last place i would be looking at for my decision.And the people helping him out with that decision really the message board.If your reading this Mr Welch or whoever make your decision based on real things that matter stop reading our opinions.Hopefully education education environment facilities coaches and playing time is what your making your decision based on.Because if what we say is in your decision making stop.And for you AAU coaches stop do better by these kids,you know better.JMO
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2018 19:31:15 GMT -5
Spot on ricky - well said. Funny how so many "experts" say recruits read it and are affected while players don't so we can shit all over them....beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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Post by hoopjunkie on Feb 7, 2018 20:32:49 GMT -5
Logical? lol So by our logic he should have walked away from 1.2 million last year?? After the blow up vs Canisius, yeah, his bosses had him by the short hairs. Your element of truth comment is funny. Guy admittingly fighting for his coaching life is gonna kick, the ONLY (most of your opinions) legit player he has on his roster, off the team?? And just give me one logical reason why Wormley left Aug 14th if the reason i gave you wasnt true? If he was "run off" he'd be at another school by April. And why did he go to a JC school? Did JP fail his classes for him? You giuys can hate 24/7, I'm over it, but try to keep it a little real. Who has got who by the short hair’s? The college now owes him $800k and the program is on life support. Sorry I just don’t buy the JP as the innocent 😇 victim act. Although i do believe DArg has some culpability but for reasons other than controlling Jimbo’s every move. They had him by the short hairs because one more outburst like the one vs Canisius last year, and the administration had the right to void his contract, costing him the remaining 1.2 guaranteed on his contract. So basically, be a good boy, do what you're told, and you'll get your money. His horrible recruiting has gotten him in this mess, and I'm pretty sure he knows it. Probably too little too late to bring in stellar class and make some noise next year. IF he signs 3/4 real good kids, maybe he figures it makes the administrations decision to fire him more difficult?
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