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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2017 21:38:22 GMT -5
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 10, 2017 22:11:13 GMT -5
They beat Wichita State last year and beat Wisconsin the year they went to the Final 4. We will be tested on this trip.
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Post by OneIndian on Aug 11, 2017 18:24:28 GMT -5
How do you think these Canadian teams would do mid NCAA season, my guess is they get waxed!
NCAA schools are not exactly going full bore against these squads. Kind of like LeMoyne knocking off Syr a few years back, fun to talk about but meaningless in the scheme of things. In other words these games tell you $hi+.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 11, 2017 18:30:13 GMT -5
How do you think these Canadian teams would do mid NCAA season, my guess is they get waxed! NCAA schools are not exactly going full bore against these squads. Kind of like LeMoyne knocking off Syr a few years back, fun to talk about but meaningless in the scheme of things. In other words these games tell you $hi+. The point is that they are probably at least a high-D2 to low D1 level opponent (perhaps even a bit better). No one is saying they are Kentucky, but they are high-level opponents who will be good competition for us.
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Post by OneIndian on Aug 11, 2017 18:33:05 GMT -5
How do you think these Canadian teams would do mid NCAA season, my guess is they get waxed! NCAA schools are not exactly going full bore against these squads. Kind of like LeMoyne knocking off Syr a few years back, fun to talk about but meaningless in the scheme of things. In other words these games tell you $hi+. The point is that they are probably at least a high-D2 to low D1 level opponent (perhaps even a bit better). No one is saying they are Kentucky, but they are high-level opponents who will be good competition for us. Who compared them to Kentucky? (See above I believe it was you that made comparisons to Wichita and Wisc the yr they went to the final 4 and said we will be well tested). At least be consistent in what you post. I believe I made the comparison to LeMoyne. Using your logic... If they're good comp then we're a D2 low mid. Right? Look let's be serious this is a nothing more than a scrimmage/practice for teams and not to used as a guage. Sorry not buying the good comp angle.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 11, 2017 18:58:59 GMT -5
The point is that they are probably at least a high-D2 to low D1 level opponent (perhaps even a bit better). No one is saying they are Kentucky, but they are high-level opponents who will be good competition for us. Who compared them to Kentucky? (See above I believe it was you that made comparisons to Wichita and Wisc the yr they went to the final 4 and said we will be well tested). At least be consistent in what you post. I believe I made the comparison to LeMoyne. Using your logic... If they're good comp then we're a D2 low mid. Right? Look let's be serious this is a nothing more than a scrimmage/practice for teams and not to used as a guage. Sorry not buying the good comp angle. What you said was that these teams would get crushed by college teams come mid season. I said while they aren't Kentucky they are a mid-to-low major D1 or high D2 level. I'm not saying we shouldn't be better on paper than these teams but the gap shouldn't be all that significant, making it a good level of competition for us to practice against. I'm not going to jump to ANY conclusions based on the results of these games (unless we get crushed in all 3 in which I may panic a little lol) but it's not like we are playing a high school JV team (Auburn beat a team 87-29 in Italy that looked like Albany Academy would have a shot against). It's a level of competition that will allow our staff (and us for that matter) to get a sense of what we have and test different lineups.
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Post by OneIndian on Aug 11, 2017 19:09:07 GMT -5
Who compared them to Kentucky? (See above I believe it was you that made comparisons to Wichita and Wisc the yr they went to the final 4 and said we will be well tested). At least be consistent in what you post. I believe I made the comparison to LeMoyne. Using your logic... If they're good comp then we're a D2 low mid. Right? Look let's be serious this is a nothing more than a scrimmage/practice for teams and not to used as a guage. Sorry not buying the good comp angle. What you said was that these teams would get crushed by college teams come mid season. I said while they aren't Kentucky they are a mid-to-low major D1 or high D2 level. I'm not saying we shouldn't be better on paper than these teams but the gap shouldn't be all that significant, making it a good level of competition for us to practice against. I'm not going to jump to ANY conclusions based on the results of these games (unless we get crushed in all 3 in which I may panic a little lol) but it's not like we are playing a high school JV team (Auburn beat a team 87-29 in Italy that looked like Albany Academy would have a shot against). It's a level of competition that will allow our staff (and us for that matter) to get a sense of what we have and test different lineups. I'm not panicking win lose or severe beating! It's a scrimmage (you got it... see your last sentence).
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Post by gorvy on Aug 11, 2017 19:25:50 GMT -5
I'll be panicking if it's a severe beating lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 12, 2017 9:08:53 GMT -5
I'll be looking more towards individual performance on this trip...not necessarily the wins or losses. I want to start understanding how the pieces will be used and will fit together.
Saints lost at least one 4 years ago.
McGill beat us by 2
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Post by hankla on Aug 12, 2017 13:56:36 GMT -5
I'll be looking more towards individual performance on this trip...not necessarily the wins or losses. I want to start understanding how the pieces will be used and will fit together. Saints lost at least one 4 years ago. McGill beat us by 2 Marquis slipped on wet floor and his man got off winning shot. Refs in that game allowed McGill to play Rugby. Poole and a McGill player ejected for a skirmish. Hymes hurt his hand in the same incident hitting the McGill player and had to leave game.
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Post by $cott on Aug 14, 2017 9:56:58 GMT -5
I know its boring but I'm actually hoping to see signs we are playing good defense on this trip. If we need to score 80 a night to win then Nico is going to need a lot of help. If we can hold our opponents in the 60s then we might have the firepower to have a surprising season. Not enough reliable scorers this year to be able to get by unless a lot of emphasis is put on defense.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 10:06:53 GMT -5
I know its boring but I'm actually hoping to see signs we are playing good defense on this trip. If we need to score 80 a night to win then Nico is going to need a lot of help. If we can hold our opponents in the 60s then we might have the firepower to have a surprising season. Not enough reliable scorers this year to be able to get by unless a lot of emphasis is put on defense. I expect the defense to be quite awful on this trip and, as a result, for it to be a focus going into the remainder of the offseason. You have a bunch of guys just getting into D1 shape...learning a new system...and playing vs. teams who are in mid-season form...while playing vs. a 24 second shot clock that maybe just our Canadians have some experience with. A case could be made though that a good offense is the best defense with a 24 sec shotclock. Maybe all the ballhandlers will be a standout strength...but without experience playing together against this level of competition I'm hesistant to say it will all show itself this early.
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Post by goldsaint17 on Aug 14, 2017 11:40:55 GMT -5
This pretty much goes along with what I've been told and seen posted on this board.
I don't have any complaints with this. I know some will complain over Fisher but he is experienced and a leader of this team. If he has improved the way I've been told he has he can give us some rotation minutes. My guess is that 8&9 are Smithen and Friday, but we'll see. I like having Smithen in the rotation given that he's a very good defender and can give us a lift of energy off the bench. Plus, he compliments Horn (who can score but isn't all that quick or good defensively) as he second bench guard.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2017 13:28:54 GMT -5
This pretty much goes along with what I've been told and seen posted on this board. I don't have any complaints with this. I know some will complain over Fisher but he is experienced and a leader of this team. If he has improved the way I've been told he has he can give us some rotation minutes. My guess is that 8&9 are Smithen and Friday, but we'll see. I like having Smithen in the rotation given that he's a very good defender and can give us a lift of energy off the bench. Plus, he compliments Horn (who can score but isn't all that quick or good defensively) as he second bench guard. The correct top 6, in my eyes, is in control. There's plenty of time to figure out 7-9. 7-9 is going to be determined by the frontcourt...what happens with those back up minutes at the 4 & 5. If a guard backs up the 4...then that creates more minutes at guard etc.
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