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Post by Tony on Jul 31, 2017 16:01:48 GMT -5
You couldn't play all three at once but RyRo wouldn't have had to play 37 MPG and guys like Martens and Walters never would have seen the floor. Basabe was also better than Anosike. He may have played over him. Don't you remember that Favors, Lawal, Peacock Georgia Tech frontcourt? They would have been like that...but for the MAAC. As far as CJ's absence not affecting the outcome of the Purdue game...that's just complete craziness. Had CJ played, that would have been a completely different game. The kid made 44% of Siena's total 3 pointers that year. Without him, there was no true perimeter threat. Moore was shooting 22% from three that year..and Ubiles was gimpy and only even attempted 73 that year. Without CJ, Siena was not a balanced team. It changed everything. KK, read the whole thing that I wrote. Robbie Hummel was injured for Purdue for that game, he went on to play two seasons with the Timberwolves, how did CJ make out after college? Do you think it would have been a different game if BOTH teams had their "big guns" playing? Would "Mr Floorburn" (now I will have to look him up) have reduced CJ to 1 for 10 shooting with his hustle? We will never know. As I said, just my opinion. Bad comparison- Purdue was headed for a #1 or at worst a #2 seed- the committee dropped purdue to a 4 seed because of the Robbie Hummel injury- so yes Siena was playing the 4th seeded Purdue Boilermakers not the 1 or 2 seed that would have included Hummel- So yes the CJ injury was huge for Siena- we will never know if they would have beaten Purdue- we do know they would have stood a much better chance of beating the 4th seeded boilermakers with CJ
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Post by Deleted on Jul 31, 2017 16:12:42 GMT -5
KK, read the whole thing that I wrote. Robbie Hummel was injured for Purdue for that game, he went on to play two seasons with the Timberwolves, how did CJ make out after college? Do you think it would have been a different game if BOTH teams had their "big guns" playing? Would "Mr Floorburn" (now I will have to look him up) have reduced CJ to 1 for 10 shooting with his hustle? We will never know. As I said, just my opinion. Bad comparison- Purdue was headed for a #1 or at worst a #2 seed- the committee dropped purdue to a 4 seed because of the Robbie Hummel injury- so yes Siena was playing the 4th seeded Purdue Boilermakers not the 1 or 2 seed that would have included Hummel- So yes the CJ injury was huge for Siena- we will never know if they would have beaten Purdue- we do know they would have stood a much better chance of beating the 4th seeded boilermakers with CJ Purdue had the 3rd best defense in the country per Kenpom that year. When you only have 4 real scorers and only 1 who scores from the perimeter, losing that guy is devastating against a team like that. Siena shot just 32% because they never even had to guard the perimeter. And that's not even to mention what CJ meant to Fran's press.
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Post by hockeyguy on Jul 31, 2017 17:23:58 GMT -5
Tony, my point regarding Fran, who was fantastic for this program, is that he too took guys that had few to no other offers (and low-major at that) and they turned out to be "pretty good". So much for judging players by "other D1 coaches" being the best judge. Let's see how these guys turn out before As for Basabe, Rossiter and OD being "suffocating", you couldn't play all three at once. In my humble opinion, Clarence was not Kenny's replacement, he simply took his spot on the floor. I know people will say we could have beaten Purdue if Clarence could have played, in response I will say Purdue would have embarassed Siena if Robbie Hummel could have played for them. It was not an even trade. "Mr. Floorburn" (forgot his name) almost single-handedly beat the Saints that day. Fran was out-coached, and the team was out-hustled and out-played. Fran knew he was leaving within a couple weeks, the show was over. You couldn't play all three at once but RyRo wouldn't have had to play 37 MPG and guys like Martens and Walters never would have seen the floor. Basabe was also better than Anosike. He may have played over him. Don't you remember that Favors, Lawal, Peacock Georgia Tech frontcourt? They would have been like that...but for the MAAC. As far as CJ's absence not affecting the outcome of the Purdue game...that's just complete craziness. Had CJ played, that would have been a completely different game. The kid made 44% of Siena's total 3 pointers that year. Without him, there was no true perimeter threat. Moore was shooting 22% from three that year..and Ubiles was gimpy and only even attempted 73 that year. Without CJ, Siena was not a balanced team. It changed everything. KK, I left this off previous responses but if CJ took 100% of Siena's 3 ptr's he would have had 100% of total made 3 ptrs. Ubiles hit 3's at a 39.7% clip, Jackson, 35.6. I guess nearly 40% 3pt shooting doesn't constitute a perimeter threat in your book? As for "gimpy" do you remember a spinning 360 degree dunk 10 days before the Purdue game?
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