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Post by gosaints on Dec 17, 2016 9:09:17 GMT -5
Patsos is not being fired today but some have "fun" with the concept. Let's let the season play out and see where that takes us. Does it really matter how the season plays itself out! Pastos has continually demonstrated that he cannot recruit or control his players in spite of the fact that he has the best resources available out of any team in the MAAC. He has no leadership skills which he has demonstrated over and over again both on and off the court. He cannot coach, both his pregame and in game coaching skills are significantly lacking to say the least. At the end of the season its time for a change and hopefully Pastos will do the first right thing since he came here, RESIGN!!!
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Post by $cott on Dec 17, 2016 10:04:53 GMT -5
Actually, for reasons that cannot be articulated in a public forum, the school would be wise to can his ass right now. The message that is being sent to the entire Siena community is horrible. Because many know what's happening with this staff and that circle is only going to grow as will the embarrassment. What possible reasons are there that can't be articulated in a public forum? Bestiality? Incest? Hell, I bet there are even public forums for incestious bestiality and I don't even think that is scientifically possible. Speak up if you have something to say, don't hide behind some false idea that the internet is some sacred place where certain topics are off limit.
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Post by nolesaint on Dec 17, 2016 12:32:15 GMT -5
Actually, for reasons that cannot be articulated in a public forum, the school would be wise to can his ass right now. The message that is being sent to the entire Siena community is horrible. Because many know what's happening with this staff and that circle is only going to grow as will the embarrassment. What possible reasons are there that can't be articulated in a public forum? Bestiality? Incest? Hell, I bet there are even public forums for incestious bestiality and I don't even think that is scientifically possible. Speak up if you have something to say, don't hide behind some false idea that the internet is some sacred place where certain topics are off limit. Thanks for the free advise regarding how to live my life but I am going to have to decline your offer. I'm not a newbie and have deep longstanding connections to the school and program with this in mind I shared what I am comfortable sharing here. So you have a choice to trust in me and my words or don't but you don't get to tell me how to communicate.
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Post by greenblood on Dec 17, 2016 13:57:39 GMT -5
$cott: there are enough people with longstanding connections to the school and basketball program that would agree with Nolesaint. The program has taken more hits in this regime than it signed up for. Everything washes out in the end. Let's hope for our current players that the tide turns to at least a .500 season and maybe some post season run. But I think Brother Ed and D'arg have quite of bit of thinking to do in April.
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Post by mjs72 on Dec 17, 2016 18:17:51 GMT -5
GB and nolesaint, what recruit or their parents reading your posts would ever let their kid commit to Siena this spring? This kind of innuendo even if not way out of line does our school no benefit.
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Post by greenblood on Dec 17, 2016 18:32:03 GMT -5
Recruits and their parents are given the inside info by their handlers in this day and age. They see our ever climbing transfer rates, changes in staff and know the core information without reading boards. Lost recruits are not the fault of anyone here, the record is speaking for itself.
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Post by nolesaint on Dec 17, 2016 19:38:05 GMT -5
GB and nolesaint, what recruit or their parents reading your posts would ever let their kid commit to Siena this spring? This kind of innuendo even if not way out of line does our school no benefit. Honestly, I would not let my child play for this staff. How's that for you... Point of clarification I know that I am lumping the staff all in together even though each and every individual may not be a bad apple but they are in the basket so when cleaning time comes they unfortunately will be judged as spoiled too... I've just had enough! I've followed and supported this program since the mid-70's and what this coach and some of his staff are doing/getting away with is absolutely disgusting. Siena is supposed to be shaping the leaders of tomorrow and if this is the example they are holding up as their flagship ... well then the future is screwed. Something needs to be done asap.
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 17, 2016 19:49:02 GMT -5
Recruits and their parents are given the inside info by their handlers in this day and age. They see our ever climbing transfer rates, changes in staff and know the core information without reading boards. Lost recruits are not the fault of anyone here, the record is speaking for itself. Correct. The fact that we can't land targets kind of speaks for itself. I said this in an earlier thread a handful of posters on a message board has zero impact as to whether or not a recruit commits to Siena. A prospective player gets more input from AAU HS coaches and handlers. Siena's coaches reputation (be it good or bad) is well known to all that really matter.
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Post by indian82 on Dec 17, 2016 19:50:21 GMT -5
Recruits and their parents are given the inside info by their handlers in this day and age. They see our ever climbing transfer rates, changes in staff and know the core information without reading boards. Lost recruits are not the fault of anyone here, the record is speaking for itself. But you think it's OK to say 'there are things that cannot be articulated in a public forum' with absolutely no further explanation? That can make anybody think that he is implying Sandusky-like crimes. I will agree that fans can intensely dislike the coach and may have their reasons, but as an alumnus of the school I disagree with that kind vague accusation that makes everybody's imaginations go wild.
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Post by nolesaint on Dec 17, 2016 20:12:28 GMT -5
Recruits and their parents are given the inside info by their handlers in this day and age. They see our ever climbing transfer rates, changes in staff and know the core information without reading boards. Lost recruits are not the fault of anyone here, the record is speaking for itself. But you think it's OK to say 'there are things that cannot be articulated in a public forum' with absolutely no further explanation? That can make anybody think that he is implying Sandusky-like crimes. I will agree that fans can intensely dislike the coach and may have their reasons, but as an alumnus of the school I disagree with that kind vague accusation that makes everybody's imaginations go wild. Rather than attack a messenger maybe you could take an active interest and do a little digging of your own. Trust me it's not well hidden you just have to be willing to look, ask, listen.
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Post by MTS on Dec 17, 2016 20:16:57 GMT -5
I'm focused on rooting the team on... though I can't believe some of the decisions Jimmy has made I still think we can have a good year. But the future is something the administration has to do a lot of thinking about. This is a discussion for March of course. But even with a trip to the NCAA tournament it's a discussion that needs to be had.
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Post by greenblood on Dec 17, 2016 20:19:40 GMT -5
Recruits and their parents are given the inside info by their handlers in this day and age. They see our ever climbing transfer rates, changes in staff and know the core information without reading boards. Lost recruits are not the fault of anyone here, the record is speaking for itself. But you think it's OK to say 'there are things that cannot be articulated in a public forum' with absolutely no further explanation? That can make anybody think that he is implying Sandusky-like crimes. I will agree that fans can intensely dislike the coach and may have their reasons, but as an alumnus of the school I disagree with that kind vague accusation that makes everybody's imaginations go wild. Yes I do because I have been in the position of having knowledge that could have severely damaged the program but let the powers that be handle it during the St. Fran years. Fran was a better poker player. Jimmy's running mouth and the body language of the players at pressers is a huge tell. If you have been in his presence in social settings you could observe for yourself.
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Post by indian82 on Dec 17, 2016 20:26:20 GMT -5
But you think it's OK to say 'there are things that cannot be articulated in a public forum' with absolutely no further explanation? That can make anybody think that he is implying Sandusky-like crimes. I will agree that fans can intensely dislike the coach and may have their reasons, but as an alumnus of the school I disagree with that kind vague accusation that makes everybody's imaginations go wild. Yes I do because I have been in the position of having knowledge that could have severely damaged the program but let the powers that be handle it during the St. Fran years. Fran was a better poker player. Jimmy's running mouth and the body language of the players at pressers is a huge tell. If you have been in his presence in social settings you could observe for yourself. And that's fine. You kept quiet about it. But this vagueness is worse. Nole would have been better either stating the issue or keeping it quiet.
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Post by gorvy on Dec 17, 2016 21:21:02 GMT -5
Rather than attack a messenger maybe you could take an active interest and do a little digging of your own. Trust me it's not well hidden you just have to be willing to look, ask, listen. Sorry - if you think that it's so easy to do a 'little digging' with such a vague message you are mistaken. I have no 'in' at the school. What should I google 'Siena molestation', 'Siena corruption'? Can you give us a key word here? We've got nothing. again, just ignore it if you don't like it. Throwing out shock words does not help.
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Post by indian82 on Dec 17, 2016 21:27:30 GMT -5
Sorry - if you think that it's so easy to do a 'little digging' with such a vague message you are mistaken. I have no 'in' at the school. What should I google 'Siena molestation', 'Siena corruption'? Can you give us a key word here? We've got nothing. again, just ignore it if you don't like it. Throwing out shock words does not help. I made a comment to a vague accusation. I thought I had that right. If everybody ignored everything they didn't like on a message board, there wouldn't be many messages.
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