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Post by olddave on Dec 11, 2016 8:17:53 GMT -5
Does everyone think this is all on JUmbo. I gave him the first 3 years, remained neutral, this year a debacle, shows how bad of a coach he is. D'Arg, unfortunately time for a change, of course as I have stated prior don't forget about the admin, board hiring committee as well as those on the school who have authority and dislike the BB or any athletic program.
Moving forward, JP is gone this year or next, question to be answered is type of coach school wants. Fran style, type A personality, no BS, won't air his laundry to the public and takes care of the team discipline issues and all. You think LL would have sat out 3 games for parking tickets with FM, he would have been disciplined for sure but not to hurt the program, kids best of my knowledge respected FM.
Or are they going to hire another MB, JP, wishy washy personalities, someone they can dominate, as if the powers to be know hoop.
Siena is blessed with good academics, great fan base (for Now), good venue, name recognition (which they are trying to throw away), they care about their student athletes but just has poor management and leadership.
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Post by poopsickle on Dec 11, 2016 8:33:36 GMT -5
I remember him playing at Duke. Not sure the what path the powers that be would take but I've always been in favor of an up and comer. They have something to prove and infuse that attitude into the team. They prepare and work hard because their future depends on it. They are not looking to sit tight at .500 until retirement or pile on BS. I always thought Andy Toole from RMU was who we should have gone with in the first place. They had a down year last year, but 4 straight 20 win seasons prior to that.
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Post by th24 on Dec 11, 2016 9:25:44 GMT -5
The other coaching candidates ... Mike Rhoades 2014-2015 12–20 8–10 T–7th 2015–16 12–20 7–11 T–9th 2016–17 5–1 0–0 Andy Toole 2014-2015 12–6 T–2nd NCAA Second Round 2015–16 10–22 8–10 8th 2016–17 3-8 0–0 I don't think that list was even serious DArg was hiring SoSo come hell or high water. He knew it before Mitch was ditched. That's all speculation! All of those candidates had high marks! And this board was very devided on who go with!
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Post by greenblood on Dec 11, 2016 11:53:51 GMT -5
Read posts above. It was all smoke and mirrors. JP was locked in before the season was over....before Mitch was formally fired. Anyone who thinks otherwise is mistaken.
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Post by th24 on Dec 11, 2016 11:56:57 GMT -5
And yet past threads/journalist posts (from coaching speculation) say otherwise! 🤔
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Post by indian82 on Dec 11, 2016 11:58:22 GMT -5
We need change as next year we will be "rebuilding" off our 16-17 Senior team. Lets get someone young, driven, smart, hunger and someone who knows what he is doing! Kids want to win and this is an awesome place to do that Yeah, that sounds good and all....except we have a coach.
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Post by nolesaint on Dec 11, 2016 12:22:36 GMT -5
It's simple - put some of the accounting people to work analyzing which is likely to cost Siena more a buyout this year or the loss of revenue next year and for a year or so after if they keep Jimmy through the end of next year. Also, Patsos should seriously, and I mean seriously, look at moving on at the end of this year so that he can do so on his own terms rather than as a recently fired MM, or ugh it pains me to say - LM head coach.
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Post by Papi on Dec 11, 2016 12:24:59 GMT -5
90% of the maac schedule left and talk of a coaching change, what a joke. Last I checked this team was picked 2nd. Non conference games have nothing to do with that pick. If teams fails in conference have at it, at least let half of the games be played. But the sniffers don't know any better 8-2 or 9-1 would be acceptable for a sniffer so far.
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Post by indian82 on Dec 11, 2016 12:28:31 GMT -5
90% of the maac schedule left and talk of a coaching change, what a joke. Last I checked this team was picked 2nd. Non conference games have nothing to do with that pick. If teams fails in conference have at it, at least let half of the games be played. But the sniffers don't know any better 8-2 or 9-1 would be acceptable for a sniffer so far. This from the guy who 2 or more weeks ago, said we had at least 1 must win. I see you are past the depression cycle....how long does the manic last?
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Post by greenblood on Dec 11, 2016 13:08:42 GMT -5
And yet past threads/journalist posts (from coaching speculation) say otherwise! 🤔 How much more detail would you like to be proven wrong. Fr. Mullen was adamant on hiring JP. The Under Armor incentive was icing on the cake.
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 11, 2016 13:16:58 GMT -5
And yet past threads/journalist posts (from coaching speculation) say otherwise! 🤔 Key word is "speculation", which is meaningless. Mgmt was hiring Patsos no one else was under serious consideration.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2016 13:28:42 GMT -5
It's also interesting that the Management that wanted the hire left and doesn't have to live with it.....
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Post by th24 on Dec 11, 2016 13:59:32 GMT -5
And yet past threads/journalist posts (from coaching speculation) say otherwise! 🤔 Key word is "speculation", which is meaningless. Mgmt was hiring Patsos no one else was under serious consideration. Yes - speculation on your part! Unless you want tell us your sources close to Siena or media?!
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Post by th24 on Dec 11, 2016 14:57:00 GMT -5
🤔😂
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Post by greenblood on Dec 11, 2016 15:08:31 GMT -5
Sorry you are so wrong. I watched this on fold with my own eyes when we played at Loyola prior to Mitch getting fired. While having dinner at the MAAC tourney that year with ano influential donor it was confirmed PRIOR TO THE Tournament tip off that JP would be the next HC of the Saints. Finally you might want to enlighten yourself that the media only reports whatever bullshit is being flung outside of the locker room. If they actually had the ability to report truth we wouldn't be force fed a story about suspensions over parking violations.
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