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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Dec 9, 2016 22:45:28 GMT -5
This isn't an excuse thread (because for gods sakes there's been enough) but just understand for a moment that thus far this year, Siena has lost exactly one game (Rider) that they were projected to win by Vegas or other hoops metrics.
I'm not saying I'm HAPPY about dropping these games (especially by such close margins) but this is still far from an unexpected outcome. Hopefully they can turn these close losses into close wins soon enough.
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 9, 2016 22:54:15 GMT -5
3-7, playing like shit, no chemistry, discipline issues, can't shoot, poor fundamentals, poorly coached games. Sorry you're making excuses with the Vegas line BS.
GW, SB, Rider, FGCU, NC Asheville & UA all winable games. No giants killers in there, a few solid teams yes, great no! Not saying we win them all but a good solid mid major program/team that's a well coached doesn't go 0-6 vs this lot!
We look like a team in complete disarray that is lacking leadership from the top down.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 9, 2016 23:00:21 GMT -5
To me we look like a team that can't shoot 3s. 2-27 last two games. When you can't shoot, you're easy to defend.
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Dec 9, 2016 23:00:41 GMT -5
3-7, playing like shit, no chemistry, discipline issues, poorly coached games. Sorry you're making excuses with the Vegas line BS. GW, SB, Rider, FGCU, NC Asheville & UA all winable games. No giants killers in there, a few solid teams yes, great no! Not saying we win them all but a good solid mid major program/team that's a well coached doesn't go 3-7 vs this lot! We look like a team in complete disarray that is lacking leadership. Right. I agree. It's an issue we are now 3-7...but given the personnel available and timing of games I'm not at all surprised we are 3-7.
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Post by diamonddog on Dec 9, 2016 23:02:49 GMT -5
We need a consistent bench. It would help a lot.
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Dec 9, 2016 23:02:56 GMT -5
To me we look like a team that can't shoot 3s. 2-27 last two games. When you can't shoot, you're easy to defend. I agree, although if you leaned on their 1-19 stay from last game, it posits that they were at least attempting to shy away from that weakness. Also the unavailable personnel might have had something to do with that reduction too.
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 9, 2016 23:09:08 GMT -5
To me we look like a team that can't shoot 3s. 2-27 last two games. When you can't shoot, you're easy to defend. Hum, coach should have the players stop jacking up 3's. Change up the offensive a bit, attack the rim, get it into the post, play a mid range game anything but chuck! Siena over the past few seasons hasn't relied on the 3, why shoot 19 now? Against Rider we put up 19 threes and made one. Hey coach, ya think ya might want to tell your players to stop jacking um up! Pathetic coaching.
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Post by SaintMisbehavin on Dec 9, 2016 23:25:20 GMT -5
To me we look like a team that can't shoot 3s. 2-27 last two games. When you can't shoot, you're easy to defend. Hum, coach should have the players stop jacking up 3's. Change up the offensive a bit, attack the rim, get it into the post, play a mid range game anything but chuck! Siena over the past few seasons hasn't relied on the 3, why shoot 19 now? Against Rider we put up 19 threes and made one. Hey coach, ya think ya might want to tell your players to stop jacking um up! Pathetic coaching. They only shot 8 tonight. So...seemingly he already took your advice.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 9, 2016 23:26:25 GMT -5
To me we look like a team that can't shoot 3s. 2-27 last two games. When you can't shoot, you're easy to defend. Hum, coach should have the players stop jacking up 3's. Change up the offensive a bit, attack the rim, get it into the post, play a mid range game anything but chuck! Siena over the past few seasons hasn't relied on the 3, why shoot 19 now? Against Rider we put up 19 threes and made one. Hey coach, ya think ya might want to tell your players to stop jacking um up! Pathetic coaching. Wouldn't shooting only 8, after shooting 19 the game before, constitute the coach telling the team to shot less 3's?? I'm more concerned with only making 1 each game. Cant win many games being that one-sided of an offense.
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 9, 2016 23:30:12 GMT -5
Hum, coach should have the players stop jacking up 3's. Change up the offensive a bit, attack the rim, get it into the post, play a mid range game anything but chuck! Siena over the past few seasons hasn't relied on the 3, why shoot 19 now? Against Rider we put up 19 threes and made one. Hey coach, ya think ya might want to tell your players to stop jacking um up! Pathetic coaching. Wouldn't shooting only 8, after shooting 19 the game before, constitute the coach telling the team to shot less 3's?? I'm more concerned with only making 1 each game. Cant win many games being that one-sided of an offense. I was actually referring to how we got to 19 shots in the Rider game in the first place. That should have been corrected in-game. I'll say it again there are underlying issues. Why wasn't Nico on the floor tonight? I don't buy that it was his knee....what other bs was going on, coach giving him a timeout?
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 9, 2016 23:47:14 GMT -5
Wouldn't shooting only 8, after shooting 19 the game before, constitute the coach telling the team to shot less 3's?? I'm more concerned with only making 1 each game. Cant win many games being that one-sided of an offense. I was actually referring to how we got to 19 shots in the Rider game in the first place. That should have been corrected in-game. I'll say it again there are underlying issues. Why wasn't Nico on the floor tonight? I don't buy that it was his knee....what other bs was going, coach giving him a timeout? Only one player in the country shoots more of his teams shots than Nico. Nico should be made to watch the Iona game in New Ro last year. THAT game was the day he was GREAT. When he plays like that, passing the ball like he did and making everyone better, he's a special player. Right now, he's all about "getting his."
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Post by gorvy on Dec 9, 2016 23:48:18 GMT -5
Didn't see today's game but the three point woes are due as much as the way the shots are generated as the shots themselves. No offensive flow.
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 9, 2016 23:50:57 GMT -5
I was actually referring to how we got to 19 shots in the Rider game in the first place. That should have been corrected in-game. I'll say it again there are underlying issues. Why wasn't Nico on the floor tonight? I don't buy that it was his knee....what other bs was going, coach giving him a timeout? Only one player in the country shoots more of his teams shots than Nico. Nico should be made to watch the Iona game in New Ro last year. THAT game was the day he was GREAT. When he plays like that, passing the ball like he did and making everyone better, he's a special player. Right now, he's all about "getting his." Thanks that's what I thought. This team is struggling to play like one.
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Post by Papi on Dec 10, 2016 0:10:08 GMT -5
To me we look like a team that can't shoot 3s. 2-27 last two games. When you can't shoot, you're easy to defend. If you can't make 3s you can't win. Pretty simple. It's been a problem for many years. It's a major part of the game today, if you think otherwise you're stuck in the 80s.
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Post by OneIndian on Dec 10, 2016 0:37:57 GMT -5
So who is ultimately responsible for recruiting? Why do we have a lack of shooters? Where does the buck stop and with whom?
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