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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 15, 2016 10:26:09 GMT -5
Who's more of a zealot cruz or Rubio The only zealot in the race is Bernie the lovable Socialist. He's the next community organizer in Chief. Hey at least you stick to your shtick in the face of an obvious loss.
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 15, 2016 10:30:09 GMT -5
One interesting spin on the democratic campaign...
I find it laughable that Hillary and her supporters are insistent that women should be voting for her because they are women...yet they also say they are against discrimination. How do you tell people to support you because you're a woman without admitting that the very request promotes discrimination
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Post by psycholojets on Feb 15, 2016 12:44:54 GMT -5
Bernie is nether a hater nor a zealot. You guys call people names indiscriminately when it suits you. Call people names and then discuss what the names mean. Soon you are so far from any thing based in reality that you look and sound, well, like Fox news! I wonder if there is a correlation there.
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Post by th24 on Feb 15, 2016 13:10:04 GMT -5
How can you guys even argue for Socialism?! It's one thing to be Democrat ..its quite another thing to be a Socialist!
Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. Winston Churchill
Socialism proposes no adequate substitute for the motive of enlightened selfishness that today is at the basis of all human labor and effort, enterprise and new activity. William Howard Taft
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Post by CellarRat on Feb 15, 2016 13:30:16 GMT -5
Bernie is nether a hater nor a zealot. You guys call people names indiscriminately when it suits you. Call people names and then discuss what the names mean. Soon you are so far from any thing based in reality that you look and sound, well, like Fox news! I wonder if there is a correlation there. Sent from my SM-G900P using proboards Can you explain what you mean about Fox News? Do you feel the same way about other conservative writers like George Will, Charles Krauthammer, or how about the Wall Street Journal, or Bloomberg news. Please stop you always sound like a complete idiot, all you do is repeat the left's complaints about Fox News. Try to make up your own mind and stop being a sheep. The funniest part is how you start off your post and then make fun of Fox News watchers.
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 15, 2016 16:45:34 GMT -5
A lot of it is because the same lies are spewed and even the links to lies often come directly from Fox News. And Fox news is considered a joke of a "News" outlet by anyone outside of ultra conservatives.
Not worded perfectly but my intention is to point out the warped corporate line that is so often delivered from this news outlet. Frankly many of the news outlets. There is a reason these outlets were swallowed up by the small group of wealthy looking to influence public opinion. Same reason the railroad and oil folks did so back in the day. The news is used as a tool by the very same group targeted by sanders. Denying that is pretty ignorant.
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Post by CellarRat on Feb 15, 2016 17:32:48 GMT -5
A lot of it is because the same lies are spewed and even the links to lies often come directly from Fox News. And Fox news is considered a joke of a "News" outlet by anyone outside of ultra conservatives. Not worded perfectly but my intention is to point out the warped corporate line that is so often delivered from this news outlet. Frankly many of the news outlets. There is a reason these outlets were swallowed up by the small group of wealthy looking to influence public opinion. Same reason the railroad and oil folks did so back in the day. The news is used as a tool by the very same group targeted by sanders. Denying that is pretty ignorant. Yes we know, you are the omniscient one, anyone that disagrees with you is wrong and ignorant. Get over yourself. I still have not received a substantive response to any of my inquiries, which suggests you have none.
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Post by MTS on Feb 15, 2016 17:39:42 GMT -5
For our democratic friends do you think FDR, Harry Truman, JFK, RFK, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton could get the democratic nomination today? The answer is a resounding no. People say the GOP went far right..I completely disagree the democratic party went way off the cliff left. It was painful to watch Jim Webb at the debate.
The real democratic party is gone forever.
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Post by CellarRat on Feb 15, 2016 17:45:35 GMT -5
For our democratic friends do you think FDR, Harry Truman, JFK, RFK, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton could get the democratic nomination today? The answer is a resounding no. People say the GOP went far right..I completely disagree the democratic party went way off the cliff left. It was painful to watch Jim Webb at the debate. The real democratic party is gone forever. Exactly, remember Reagan's famous quote, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic left me."
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Post by MTS on Feb 15, 2016 18:28:51 GMT -5
To make a basketball post since this is the Siena board - when Siena beat Vanderbilt and Ohio State - St. Peter's, Iona and the rest of the MAAC got almost the same amount of money as Siena did.
In the A10 (and most D1 conferences), for example, you keep the money from your NCAA wins (most of it).
What's the incentive for St. Peter's to get better to point as a strong team to win an NCAA game? From a financial standpoint they basically get the same amount of cash if another conference member does it for them.
Maybe it is apples/oranges but something to consider nonetheless.
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Post by CellarRat on Feb 15, 2016 18:44:10 GMT -5
To make a basketball post since this is the Siena board - when Siena beat Vanderbilt and Ohio State - St. Peter's, Iona and the rest of the MAAC got almost the same amount of money as Siena did. In the A10 (and most D1 conferences), for example, you keep the money from your NCAA wins (most of it). What's the incentive for St. Peter's to get better to point as a strong team to win an NCAA game? From a financial standpoint they basically get the same amount of cash if another conference member does it for them. Maybe it is apples/oranges but something to consider nonetheless. Well some radicals think this is a good plan. It essentially makes the government the broker of labor. They tell you what to do and when to do it. And then they reap the benefits to distribute as they see fit providing you with a stipend or allowance to do with what you please. Of course the unmotivated do well under this system, at least for a little while. But as we know what eventually happens is that people work less, make less, and produce less, e.g. Greece. One benefit is that it will fix the immigration problem. No one with dreams of upward mobility will want to emigrate here. Bernie is a big wealth taxer as well, he wants to bust up trusts and tax the "rich" more. Part of the plan is to lift the cap on payroll tax, which will hurt small business and middle class folks that are already over taxed. But it's all about spreading income, or redistributing wealth.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 15, 2016 18:48:29 GMT -5
To make a basketball post since this is the Siena board - when Siena beat Vanderbilt and Ohio State - St. Peter's, Iona and the rest of the MAAC got almost the same amount of money as Siena did. In the A10 (and most D1 conferences), for example, you keep the money from your NCAA wins (most of it). What's the incentive for St. Peter's to get better to point as a strong team to win an NCAA game? From a financial standpoint they basically get the same amount of cash if another conference member does it for them. Maybe it is apples/oranges but something to consider nonetheless. . You are not comparing basketball competition to solving the poverty crisis are you? The difference is there is no basic nessecity required to win basketball games. But you are right I hate the everybody's equal nature of the Maac and programs like rider and Marist have done nothing to raise their profile since they joined. Hence the reason why so few teams win consistently. The trickle down concept would work here, it just isn't working in real life.
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 15, 2016 19:23:03 GMT -5
For our democratic friends do you think FDR, Harry Truman, JFK, RFK, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton could get the democratic nomination today? The answer is a resounding no. People say the GOP went far right..I completely disagree the democratic party went way off the cliff left. It was painful to watch Jim Webb at the debate. The real democratic party is gone forever. Exactly, remember Reagan's famous quote, "I didn't leave the Democratic Party, the Democratic left me." Reagan couldn't get a sniff of a republican nomination today. He'll the first bush couldn't get a nomination today. And mts... Please explain why each on your list couldn't get the nomination. Interestingly enough...It's another Fox news quote. And cellar...you've done nothing but slam the policies offered by the democrats and offered no solutions yourself. Very typical republican response despite your claim that you aren't one. "No no no no no no"...never offering any solutions to the problems of today..And what's funny is the only reason you aren't offering...is you don't think those problems exist. Or...Do you have nothing to say but attacks on the position. Republicans: "global warming... A manufactured democrat lie" lie "Racism and religious oppression... Doesn't exist. Not a problem" - lie "Corporate tax evasion. No way! Corporations are over taxed over regulated" - lie "Foreign policy. Just kill em all, make sure we get the oil" - idiocy "Middle class and poor getting decimated. Not really a problem..get a job. You people are just lazy" - lie All of these are legitimate problems with no easy solution... But burying your head in the sand in ignorance is no solution. The ignorance level is comedy at its best.
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 15, 2016 19:29:34 GMT -5
Siena didn't get into the higher conference under the same rules? Siena also doesn't get the reputation they have if they aren't beating up the little sisters of the poor constantly. What are the two schools overall budgets?
Do we not talk about the advantages Siena has with a limited market? Does Siena not use games in nyc nj Philly area to recruit?
And let's not get in to the academics
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Post by MTS on Feb 15, 2016 19:29:37 GMT -5
To make a basketball post since this is the Siena board - when Siena beat Vanderbilt and Ohio State - St. Peter's, Iona and the rest of the MAAC got almost the same amount of money as Siena did. In the A10 (and most D1 conferences), for example, you keep the money from your NCAA wins (most of it). What's the incentive for St. Peter's to get better to point as a strong team to win an NCAA game? From a financial standpoint they basically get the same amount of cash if another conference member does it for them. Maybe it is apples/oranges but something to consider nonetheless. . You are not comparing basketball competition to solving the poverty crisis are you? The difference is there is no basic nessecity required to win basketball games. But you are right I hate the everybody's equal nature of the Maac and programs like rider and Marist have done nothing to raise their profile since they joined. Hence the reason why so few teams win consistently. The trickle down concept would work here, it just isn't working in real life. I wish there wasn't suffering, poverty etc..but as Jesus said the poor will always be with us. I think that private charity is the best way of helping people. Do you want the government to own the individual? And yes there should be SAFETY nets. What you can't guarantee is outcome just an opportunity. Sanders wants to take 90% of people's incomes you think that is "FAIR"? As far as Saintsfan goes if you think that John F. Kennedy or Harry Truman could get nominated by ANY party today much less the democratic party I can't help you. That's not Fox news telling me anything that's paying attention and analyzing the facts.
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