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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 14:17:07 GMT -5
Cam is a D2 player so what's that say about LaRose? It says he hasn't even gotten to campus yet. The kid shot 80% from the FT line. Doesn't matter what competition you play against there. The only other kid on this roster who shot 80% from the line in HS was Brett Bisping. That alone is worth giving the kid a shot. It signifies good form and repetition. If he gets here and is overmatched defensively and can't ever get a shot off, then yeah, but let's just wait and see first. Still, the open scholly and the fact that Smithen supposedly initiated his own recruitment seems to signify that recruiting is still somewhat of a mess.
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Post by OneIndian on May 26, 2015 14:21:59 GMT -5
Cam is a D2 player so what's that say about LaRose? It says he hasn't even gotten to campus yet. The kid shot 80% from the FT line. Doesn't matter what competition you play against there. The only other kid on this roster who shot 80% from the line in HS was Brett Bisping. That alone is worth giving the kid a shot. It signifies good form and repetition. If he gets here and is overmatched defensively and can't ever get a shot off, then yeah, but let's just wait and see first. Still, the open scholly and the fact that Smithen supposedly initiated his own recruitment seems to signify that recruiting is still somewhat of a mess. I'm almost 60 and can still hit 7 to 8 FTs out of 10 consistently ... It doesn't make me a D1 player.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 14:24:03 GMT -5
It says he hasn't even gotten to campus yet. The kid shot 80% from the FT line. Doesn't matter what competition you play against there. The only other kid on this roster who shot 80% from the line in HS was Brett Bisping. That alone is worth giving the kid a shot. It signifies good form and repetition. If he gets here and is overmatched defensively and can't ever get a shot off, then yeah, but let's just wait and see first. Still, the open scholly and the fact that Smithen supposedly initiated his own recruitment seems to signify that recruiting is still somewhat of a mess. I'm almost 60 and can hit 7 to 8 FTs out of 10 consistently ... It doesn't make me a D1 player. If you're 6-4, can dunk, and still have some eligibility...you wanna take the last ship?
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Post by OneIndian on May 26, 2015 14:26:18 GMT -5
I'm almost 60 and can hit 7 to 8 FTs out of 10 consistently ... It doesn't make me a D1 player. If you're 6-4, can dunk, and still have some eligibility...you wanna take the last ship? 6'1" and never miss the cup with my biscotti.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 14:28:41 GMT -5
If you're 6-4, can dunk, and still have some eligibility...you wanna take the last ship? 6'1" and never miss the cup with my biscotti. Oh, and you're under 6-2! Hoopjunkie will be happy. This recruiting stuff is easy.
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Post by Tony on May 26, 2015 15:30:10 GMT -5
Yeah gotta say that doesn't sound good that Cam is better.
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Post by Tony on May 26, 2015 15:35:19 GMT -5
Still, the open scholly and the fact that Smithen supposedly initiated his own recruitment seems to signify that recruiting is still somewhat of a mess. good point I am very concerned over that myself-- oh well PPC says he has team he wants-I'm willing to give him a chance- this is his 3rd year I don't want to hear any excuses, on how he inherited a mess ( he is now using that in small gatherings) he cant recruit the type kid he needs at Siena, we are young etc. Going to be a interesting year- gonna try and keep the faith-- but man its hard with this guy sometimes
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 15:49:18 GMT -5
Still, the open scholly and the fact that Smithen supposedly initiated his own recruitment seems to signify that recruiting is still somewhat of a mess. good point I am very concerned over that myself-- oh well PPC says he has team he wants-I'm willing to give him a chance- this is his 3rd year I don't want to hear any excuses, on how he inherited a mess ( he is now using that in small gatherings) he cant recruit the type kid he needs at Siena, we are young etc. Going to be a interesting year- gonna try and keep the faith-- but man its hard with this guy sometimes It smacks of Evan Hymes' recruitment all over again. Luck.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 15:57:59 GMT -5
Yeah gotta say that doesn't sound good that Cam is better. I'm not discounting Gottfried's potential either. In a shooters' role, perhaps Gottfried could be useful. He's got a decent handle I think. Defense is probably not great but perhaps he can contribute off the bench. With his dad, I'm sure he has court smarts. I think we have to just wait and see what they can contribute. Still, Siena is not good enough to just go redshirting too many people or leaving schollies open. Haven't been in the top 4 in 5 years. You have to recruit the hell out of this place.
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 26, 2015 17:15:36 GMT -5
I don't think anyone knows what Cam is. Has anyone seen him in a real game situation?? I'm not a huge fan of his upside either, but while he was guarding 'Quis and Wright in practice, LaRose was beating up on the cast of Teen Wolf up in Plattsburgh.
Kinnon has much more upside than Cam. Giving him a year to work on some things, including his quickness and strength isn't a bad idea. I think Jimmy see KL as RO's replacement in '16-'17.
Either way, one of them would only be the 5th guard anyway. Why throw LaRose to the wolves if you don't have to? Hell, he might surrpise all of us and play great in October, and forces Jimmy to play him.
We all need to take a deep breathe......
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Post by Tony on May 26, 2015 17:22:25 GMT -5
Yeah gotta say that doesn't sound good that Cam is better. I'm not discounting Gottfried's potential either. In a shooters' role, perhaps Gottfried could be useful. He's got a decent handle I think. Defense is probably not great but perhaps he can contribute off the bench. With his dad, I'm sure he has court smarts. I think we have to just wait and see what they can contribute. Still, Siena is not good enough to just go redshirting too many people or leaving schollies open. Haven't been in the top 4 in 5 years. You have to recruit the hell out of this place. Cam played on a high profile AAU team, his father is a famous coach, he was seen by just about every D1 program in the country and Jimmy was only one to offer him at Loyola and Siena. Kid can shoot, takes all day to get his shot off and has zero foot speed, in fact in suicides he was routinely beaten by big men. He is not type player you sign if you want to beat the Iona's and Manhattan of the world ( not to mention Quinny Monmouth etc) I hope this talk about Cam being better than LaRose is not a precursor to Cam getting a ship- would not be good in my book at all
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Post by Sienafan on May 26, 2015 17:28:06 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you guys are complaining about - I think they did a wonderful job recruiting this time around. Pretty much every need was filled. They got guys who can play the 1-4 who are athletic and can compete immediately. If you think they were going to get 5 studs in one class, you must think this is Duke or Kansas. In a typical MAAC 5 player class, one would expect a role player or two. If a finalist for NY State's Mr. Basketball and City Rocks starter is one of this team's two end of bench role players the next few seasons, that's a pretty deep team. The open scholly is a result of a last-minute transfer by a kid with a unique personal situation after the prime recruiting period was over - not sure how that's on Jimmy. Lastly, some of you look for issues where there are none. You should be happy Atlantic 10 transfers are beating down Siena's door to come instead of complaining about who initiated contact first. Smithen thought of Siena as soon as he decided he would transfer - before he announced his transfer and got his release. He called Greg manning as soon as he got the release to do so. Did he even make any of the posted transfer lists before he reached out and committed to Siena? Unless you expect the coaches to be mind readers, I'm not sure how any of you expected the coaches to reach out to Smithen as quick as he got to them. www.timesunion.com/tuplus-sports/article/Siena-basketball-welcomes-Richmond-transfer-6220292.php
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2015 17:46:58 GMT -5
Why throw LaRose to the wolves if you don't have to? Hell, he might surrpise all of us and play great in October, and forces Jimmy to play him. What do you think I'm trying to say?
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Post by hoopjunkie on May 26, 2015 21:32:02 GMT -5
Why throw LaRose to the wolves if you don't have to? Hell, he might surrpise all of us and play great in October, and forces Jimmy to play him. What do you think I'm trying to say? That he shoots 80% from the FT line so he should play next year?
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Post by SaintsFan on May 27, 2015 7:17:34 GMT -5
I'm not sure what you guys are complaining about - I think they did a wonderful job recruiting this time around. Pretty much every need was filled. They got guys who can play the 1-4 who are athletic and can compete immediately. If you think they were going to get 5 studs in one class, you must think this is Duke or Kansas. In a typical MAAC 5 player class, one would expect a role player or two. If a finalist for NY State's Mr. Basketball and City Rocks starter is one of this team's two end of bench role players the next few seasons, that's a pretty deep team. The open scholly is a result of a last-minute transfer by a kid with a unique personal situation after the prime recruiting period was over - not sure how that's on Jimmy. Lastly, some of you look for issues where there are none. You should be happy Atlantic 10 transfers are beating down Siena's door to come instead of complaining about who initiated contact first. Smithen thought of Siena as soon as he decided he would transfer - before he announced his transfer and got his release. He called Greg manning as soon as he got the release to do so. Did he even make any of the posted transfer lists before he reached out and committed to Siena? Unless you expect the coaches to be mind readers, I'm not sure how any of you expected the coaches to reach out to Smithen as quick as he got to them. www.timesunion.com/tuplus-sports/article/Siena-basketball-welcomes-Richmond-transfer-6220292.phpThe only thing that want filled was a SF. Perhaps the strengths of The team can mask the weakness at this spot
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