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Post by saints73 on Mar 3, 2015 13:53:15 GMT -5
I'm entering this thread a little late, but what I would like to see from Patsos is more game preparation and more practice time for the team. Taking the team on a "field trip" to a local museum or to the movies is not the answer. It may be good for team morale, but it's not going to win many games. The New England Patriots are not successful every year because Belichick takes the team on a day trip along the Freedom Trail in Boston. It's because they are constantly watching game film and paying attention to detail in practice. They are well prepared and every player knows there role.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by billmurray on Mar 3, 2015 13:54:30 GMT -5
Wright is never going to be a 40-% guy and Oliver is not a slasher shot creator, white offensively forget about it. Be realistic and play to players strengths not weekneases that's what a good coach will do....... So everyone should work on their strengths and forget their weaknesses. That really sounds like a recipe for success given that their strengths led to a 10 win season.
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Post by billmurray on Mar 3, 2015 13:56:39 GMT -5
I'm entering this thread a little late, but what I would like to see from Patsos is more game preparation and more practice time for the team. Taking the team on a "field trip" to a local museum or to the movies is not the answer. It may be good for team morale, but it's not going to win many games. The New England Patriots are not successful every year because Belichick takes the team on a day trip along the Freedom Trail in Boston. It's because they are constantly watching game film and paying attention to detail in practice. They are well prepared and every player knows there role. Just my 2 cents. I believe there is a limit on practice time and I would be surprised if the team spends less time in practice mode than is allowed. Just my .02.
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Post by billmurray on Mar 3, 2015 14:01:08 GMT -5
It has been noted that the point guard position lacks consistent three point shooting range, yet no one seems to suggest that Wright work on that aspect of his game. He has shown the ability to hit the shot and I'm sure he will be working in the off season to become more consistent in that aspect of his game. If he can improve to .400 that would open things up significantly and improve the team immensely. It is obvious, but everyone on the team needs to work on their game. JO and WB need to get stronger and be more of a force on the boards, White and Paige need to improve offensively, Oliver needs to improve his dribble drive and mid range game. Their is not one player that can afford to sit still. The team and the staff have a lot of off season work to do. Wright was a 29% shooter over 271 attempts in highschool. It was the only thing he was never able to improve on throughout. I think most people don't bring it up in almost the same way they don't tell Anosike to shoot more threes. Sometimes you just call it like it is. Most people don't want their power forward shooting threes, the point guard position is a different story.
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 3, 2015 14:04:10 GMT -5
Wright is never going to be a 40-% guy and Oliver is not a slasher shot creator, white offensively forget about it. Be realistic and play to players strengths not weekneases that's what a good coach will do....... So everyone should work on their strengths and forget their weaknesses. That really sounds like a recipe for success given that their strengths led to a 10 win season. I said play to players strengths. Of course you look to work on your game. But to expect Wright to become a 40% shooter or White to become a scorer and Oliver to change from a spot up shooter to shot creator is very unrealistic and not productive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 14:07:52 GMT -5
Wright was a 29% shooter over 271 attempts in highschool. It was the only thing he was never able to improve on throughout. I think most people don't bring it up in almost the same way they don't tell Anosike to shoot more threes. Sometimes you just call it like it is. Most people don't want their power forward shooting threes, the point guard position is a different story. Should he keep trying to improve his shooting? Of course. Should fans count on it? No. Fact is our power forwards ARE, in fact, better 3 point shooters than half our guards.
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Post by billmurray on Mar 3, 2015 14:11:43 GMT -5
So they should "work" on their game, but continue to play as they have in the past. Got it. As I recall Poole came in as a spot up guy and did work on his mid range game and worked it not this game time play. Was he wrong to do so?
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Post by siena95 on Mar 3, 2015 14:14:16 GMT -5
I'm entering this thread a little late, but what I would like to see from Patsos is more game preparation and more practice time for the team. Taking the team on a "field trip" to a local museum or to the movies is not the answer. It may be good for team morale, but it's not going to win many games. The New England Patriots are not successful every year because Belichick takes the team on a day trip along the Freedom Trail in Boston. It's because they are constantly watching game film and paying attention to detail in practice. They are well prepared and every player knows there role. Just my 2 cents. I believe there is a limit on practice time and I would be surprised if the team spends less time in practice mode than is allowed. Just my .02. well oliver will be a senior on bad knees... i think his lack of penetration and slashing are due to his health. I think game in and game out (from what I have seen) he isn't sure where he will be physically, some games he looks spry and loose, others, he looks like me at 42 playing hoop..... he isn't going to be slasher, just not in the cards. Wright can certainly improve his shooting, but he has some elite talents too, if he was the whole package he wouldn't be here. I am not getting the Bisping-Long thing. Brett has fouled out i think in 10 games in his career and several were against A-10 teams. He certainly fouls, but not to an extent it is a habitual issue that we are seeing with long. The small sample this year for Brett, w/ several games vs up teams and the kid just back from mono makes for a hollow argument. Definitely concerned where the outside game and 3's will come from next year.... esp watching siena's half court sets now which usually devolve into a hoisted 3 as the shot clock expires.
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Post by MTS on Mar 3, 2015 14:18:58 GMT -5
It has been noted that the point guard position lacks consistent three point shooting range, yet no one seems to suggest that Wright work on that aspect of his game. He has shown the ability to hit the shot and I'm sure he will be working in the off season to become more consistent in that aspect of his game. If he can improve to .400 that would open things up significantly and improve the team immensely. It is obvious, but everyone on the team needs to work on their game. JO and WB need to get stronger and be more of a force on the boards, White and Paige need to improve offensively, Oliver needs to improve his dribble drive and mid range game. Their is not one player that can afford to sit still. The team and the staff have a lot of off season work to do. Wright did improve his 3-point shooting percentage from an abysmal 18% his freshmen year to 28% this year. I don't think he'll ever get it up to 40% but if he can improve to at least 33 or 34 percent it will make his game all the more stronger. It would be nice to be able to hit from 3-point shots but as I said before it is more important we learn how to DEFEND the 3-point shot. It has killed Siena all year long.
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Post by OneIndian on Mar 3, 2015 14:24:52 GMT -5
So they should "work" on their game, but continue to play as they have in the past. Got it. As I recall Poole came in as a spot up guy and did work on his mid range game and worked it not this game time play. Was he wrong to do so? Stop making stuff up, Poole was never just a spot up shooter. And your arguing semantics and missing the entire point. The style and type of player you are is not something you easily change, you don't seem to get it ... Oliver will never be a shot creator, He's a shooter maximize what he's good at.....
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Post by billmurray on Mar 3, 2015 14:32:20 GMT -5
I am not suggesting that players entirely change their games, but rather they should strengthen other aspects of their game that they can improve on and include it in their overall game. That would open up more of an opportunity to play to their strength and not allow the defense to only have to focus on a one dimensional player.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 14:38:37 GMT -5
I am not suggesting that players entirely change their games, but rather they should strengthen other aspects of their game that they can improve on and include it in their overall game. That would open up more of an opportunity to play to their strength and not allow the defense to only have to focus on a one dimensional player. OR - have a coach that recognizes the strengths and utilizes them while, at the same time, creating situations/match-ups that minimize or mask the weaknesses. Having Lavon at the three because he supposedly promised PPC that's where he will play and then watch NO adjustments re the kid's proclivity for fouling (even though his "coach" said he had worked hard on that during the off-season) is an example of poor coaching and it costs us.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 14:45:50 GMT -5
So they should "work" on their game, but continue to play as they have in the past. Got it. As I recall Poole came in as a spot up guy and did work on his mid range game and worked it not this game time play. Was he wrong to do so? Did I say he couldn't try to improve? No. I would love it if Wright all of sudden became a 40% 3 point shooter. Great. One stop shopping. The issue here is people EXPECTING them to improve. It's extremely rare that a guy who didn't shoot well in HS, and then didn't shoot well in D1....then turns it around later in D1. And that goes for most any aspect of the game. Leopards stay Leopards more often than they become Tigers
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Post by billmurray on Mar 3, 2015 14:48:13 GMT -5
So they should "work" on their game, but continue to play as they have in the past. Got it. As I recall Poole came in as a spot up guy and did work on his mid range game and worked it not this game time play. Was he wrong to do so? Did I say he couldn't try to improve? No. I would love it if Wright all of sudden became a 40% 3 point shooter. Great. One stop shopping. The issue here is people EXPECTING them to improve. It's extremely rare that a guy who didn't shoot well in HS, and then didn't shoot well in D1....then turns it around later in D1. And that goes for most any aspect of the game. Leopards stay Leopards more often than they become Tigers Again I am not saying Wright has to become Seth Curry, but he should try to improve to the point that he can keep defenses honest.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 14:50:55 GMT -5
Did I say he couldn't try to improve? No. I would love it if Wright all of sudden became a 40% 3 point shooter. Great. One stop shopping. The issue here is people EXPECTING them to improve. It's extremely rare that a guy who didn't shoot well in HS, and then didn't shoot well in D1....then turns it around later in D1. And that goes for most any aspect of the game. Leopards stay Leopards more often than they become Tigers Again I am not saying Wright has to become Seth Curry, but he should try to improve to the point that he can keep defenses honest. Of course. And Anosike should practice his FTs too.
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