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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 27, 2015 12:33:06 GMT -5
I sat behind Lamb out at the Canisius game. Alex claimed to be 6'6". My traveling friend is 6'4.5" and Alex wasn't bigger than him. Alex was muscular. Lamb is no bigger than 6'2" and not a wide body. there is no way Lamb is 6'2"... ZERO. Im thinking youre looking at the wrong kid. The kid junkie mentioned at st rose is listed at 6'7" there and Lamb is slightly shorter.
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Post by olddave on Feb 27, 2015 13:40:47 GMT -5
Brining up UA, give Brown and company credit. However 2 different leagues. Think the MAAC is bad AE different style of ball. Our UA brethren won't admit that UA playing in higher league would not have made NCAA last 2 years or have their great this year. That being said no reason for Siena with these cyvles.
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Post by glen on Feb 27, 2015 14:01:07 GMT -5
You can't fault UA for the league they're in. They got to the dance, we didn't. The problem is that UA takes too long to ramp up in the beginning of the season so the best they get is a #13 seed. They're usually 14-16. The fact that they can say "usually", implying regular attendance is a good thing. Let's face it though, 14-16 seeds don't win much.
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Post by mrsiena on Feb 27, 2015 14:23:40 GMT -5
My bad on Lamb's height. Youtube video dispels my belief.
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Post by siena95 on Feb 27, 2015 14:50:50 GMT -5
MMs that recruit transfers and JUCO players are the ones that win the most games each season. Until the HS grads become upperclassmen and are able to compete This doesn't make much sense... recruiting is not done in a vacuum. Every year teams have influx of freshman, so it isn't one class on a static four year period.... if a team is recruiting transfers and jucos every year and another team is recruiting freshmen, how does this cycle change?
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Post by threepeat012 on Feb 27, 2015 16:51:12 GMT -5
This 5 year nonsense is just an excuse to try and lower expectations both the program and himself. Or he is just saying 5 years because that is the number of years in his contract. Just make sure your still buying season tickets for the next 3 years so you can help pay out his contract.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 27, 2015 18:10:42 GMT -5
That's not true. There's plenty of mid major that only take hs kids in win games. It's about recruiting in development. exactly... and some coaches just don't seem to have a grasp of recruiting the talents for their system or for the holes they have in their current roster. Mitch and Patsos both have said Siena would run... Mitch most certainly didn't recruit to run. Then you look at Patsos... and as Ive said before, his hands were tied in recruiting and I believe so for both of the first two classes. You look at this year and the recruiting has addressed (on paper) with pinpoint accuracy, the deficiencies of this team. Lets see how it all plays out now. If we see ANOTHER strong class next year then I truly believe it proves my point on his hands being tied thus far. Anthony Lamb is looking good for next year and one wonders if there wasn't something to Patsos heading out to Rochester earlier this week. Lamb reminds me a LOT of Alex Franklin when he came to Siena. Kind of a Franklin/Haddix hybrid when both arrived at Siena. Kid is a Junior and plays VERY strong not QUITE as as explosive as Alex but then again... kid is a Junior and a TON of up-side. Can you explain why you think patsos hands were tied the first two years?
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Post by bigsaintg on Feb 27, 2015 20:32:33 GMT -5
Not having any ships in the fall of 13 hurt as he couldn't target kids and had to go to tier two kids once ships opened after the break. I still think we take WB but could have had a better kid than Paige
And when he took over in Spring of 13 he had a roster in flux and most kids had signed so he did a good job just getting his Loyola commits to come north.
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Post by gorvy on Feb 27, 2015 22:49:00 GMT -5
I think he should have just let the first year ride and sort itself out then he would have had a full year in year two to recruit for his system. We basically did this for year three so one year behind. If it works out alls well that ends well.
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 28, 2015 8:13:38 GMT -5
I think he should have just let the first year ride and sort itself out then he would have had a full year in year two to recruit for his system. We basically did this for year three so one year behind. If it works out alls well that ends well. He was hired in part because he could bring that class with him. I have zero doubt.
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Post by olddave on Feb 28, 2015 9:03:45 GMT -5
if that is true SaintsFan than it was a poor decision from the search committee, looking short term not long term
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Post by SaintsFan on Feb 28, 2015 14:11:17 GMT -5
if that is true SaintsFan than it was a poor decision from the search committee, looking short term not long term I've always felt the people making choices for the program make many poor decisions
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Post by siena95 on Feb 28, 2015 16:26:39 GMT -5
if that is true SaintsFan than it was a poor decision from the search committee, looking short term not long term I've always felt the people making choices for the program make many poor decisions Lazy decisions. And when push comes to shove they make poor decisions based on short sighted admin. As much as we hear the bullshit of how important the program is the amount of times they have screwed up the most important hire at the school is astonishing. Jury out on jp still but his lack of in game acumen makes me think unless he recruits head and shoulders over everyone (he isn't) Siena isn't going anywhere.
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Post by MTS on Feb 28, 2015 16:47:43 GMT -5
I've always felt the people making choices for the program make many poor decisions Lazy decisions. And when push comes to shove they make poor decisions based on short sighted admin. As much as we hear the bullshit of how important the program is the amount of times they have screwed up the most important hire at the school is astonishing. Jury out on jp still but his lack of in game acumen makes me think unless he recruits head and shoulders over everyone (he isn't) Siena isn't going anywhere. You've got to be one of the most negative Siena fans on here. I'm a realist the program has been bad for 5 years (65-95) but lets say Siena hired Mike Rhoades and won 5-8 games year one. The same stuff is being written in different forms. How could Siena have gambled on an unproven HC after Mitch? And yes Patsos bringing Wright/Long probably did have factor in. Mitch brought the program to its knees much more than Beyer or Lanier did. Siena knew they needed someone who was going to bring some intimidate talent in to at least get the program to being respectable. This year for whatever reason it has fallen off. Everyone knows next year is a big one for Jimmy in year three. No more excuses. Junior dominated team which he has recruited most of the players on the roster. If he can't finish in the top 4 and win at least 18-20 regular season games he'll have no more cover.
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Post by MTS on Dec 10, 2016 13:11:20 GMT -5
Four year plan is fine but needs to show improvement in year three, if he can't win the MAAC in year four with Long, Wright, and Ogunyemi as seniors then he's never winning anything. Bump
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