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Post by uagr8dane on Dec 16, 2014 18:21:51 GMT -5
unfortunately that won't happen. UA chose football over basketball and put all their money there. You can understand why. Siena owned the basketball market in Albany and the DI football market was vacant. Maybe Siena and UA play in the summer, then UA could finally sell out the football stadium. You're funny.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 16, 2014 18:23:37 GMT -5
If Siena was the draw... Why do you only have 5-6k at your games and not 10k? What an idiotic statement... This game is the draw, of which UA is an integral part. you have to stop making stupid posts- you are wearing out your welcome-- Siena will have several games this year were we draw 7-8K in the MAAC tournament we will get 10K,, and I'm quite sure there are very few Alb fans there-- Alb has little to no fan support-- no comparison between the two programs -- dont even try to put two programs on same level as far as attendance You gonna run me? Lol. I never tried to compare the two fanbases there is no comparison. But don't sit there and tell me you'll have any game maac or non maac get anywhere near 10k. Don't be an imbecile...to say that this matchup isn't the reason for this crowd is BS. Just call it as it is, you don't want to ceede an inch to UA which is OK, but let's not pretend that UA v Siena isn't the reason for this crowd.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 16, 2014 18:26:30 GMT -5
We dont need any other argument-- just shit can the series Siena isn't playing at Sefcu period-- what part of that don't you understand ? "We don't want to " is an argument, a sore loser's argument, and not a convincing one.
I understand you are saying Siena isn't playing at SEFCU, but I don't understand why. Put another way, what is the downside of Siena playing a road game at SEFCU vs. road games at Vermont, at Cornell or at Maine (to use a few recent examples)? Less travel, less cost, and you get a big attendance boost for the Siena home game the next year. All $$ go to Siena when game is at the TUC. Seems like a win-win vs. traveling to Burlington or Orono Maine.
Would it make a difference if SEFCU capacity was larger, say 6000 or 7500, or is your stance based strictly on Siena having a larger fan base?
UA could have 25k size arena they still wouldn't go. You need to come to the realization that this has nothing to do with the number of seats. They think they are above playing at sefcu. I can see Syracuse not coming to sefcu but Siena? Any other argument is secondary or tertiary to Siena trying to big time UA. There is just this inconvenient fact that they keep losing.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 16, 2014 18:27:38 GMT -5
If SEFCU could hold 7500-8000 this is a non argument....shit then they can play twice a year a home n home. unfortunately that won't happen. UA chose football over basketball and put all their money there. You can understand why. Siena owned the basketball market in Albany and the DI football market was vacant. Master plan for athletic calls for a 30mil gut of sefcu and renovatin.
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Post by gorvy on Dec 16, 2014 18:28:35 GMT -5
Actually we got 8 to 9K for several Maac games over the years and even approached 10,000 when the tarps weren't around. We need another sustained period of winning to approach these numbers again, but it is possible.
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Post by indian82 on Dec 16, 2014 18:33:27 GMT -5
Once you start talking about fan base #s, the seat differential between the two home venues, I know you have no other argument except "I don't want to". Using your logic, Providence would never play at URI (5000 people get closed out) and yet they do, every other year. Villanova has a much bigger fan base than St. Joe's, and yet they travel to St. Joe's every other year. I understand why you want to make the argument about who has more fans, but that actually has nothing to do with whether the game continues as a true home and home series. Patsos was recently quoted as saying the Siena program measures itself against UAlbany. I know the measuring has not gone well in recent years, but if the Siena program is as good as many of you think it is, Siena can meet the challenge of a game at SEFCU every other year. Nothing wrong with a level playing field. This is essentially the only college game played in he capital district with 10 -11k fans all year which lends itself to a big time basketball feel/event. So essentially you want to shut out 7k fans every other year because you feel like the red headed step child of capital district basketball .... rational egoism at its finest. Bring your 1000 fans to the TU and enjoy, you're winning so you've proven it can't be much of home court advantage anyway...... Understood that this is 10-11K. So, you're saying that potentially 7K missing out every other year is worse than keeping the keeping the rivalry and having 10-11K miss out every year. I have already stated my thoughts on how the area in general and most of that 7K that you say would be missing out could still benefit from the game at the SEFCU.
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Post by billmurray on Dec 16, 2014 18:34:45 GMT -5
unfortunately that won't happen. UA chose football over basketball and put all their money there. You can understand why. Siena owned the basketball market in Albany and the DI football market was vacant. Master plan for athletic calls for a 30mil gut of sefcu and renovatin. Call me when it happens.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 16, 2014 18:35:25 GMT -5
Master plan for athletic calls for a 30mil gut of sefcu and renovatin. Call me when it happens. Circa, call me when football stadium happens. We will, then you can complain about your .30 cents in taxes you paid towards it.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 16, 2014 18:36:29 GMT -5
Actually we got 8 to 9K for several Maac games over the years and even approached 10,000 when the tarps weren't around. We need another sustained period of winning to approach these numbers again, but it is possible. I keep looking through available attendance for your MAAC games, when I find one anywhere near 8 or 9k I'll post it. What game this year do you think you'll be approaching that number?
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Post by billmurray on Dec 16, 2014 18:39:57 GMT -5
Circa, call me when football stadium happens. We will, then you can complain about your .30 cents in taxes you paid towards it. The difference is football is a UA priority, basketball is not. What is the seating capacity of the "planned" renovation. I hope it is at least 7000 to accommodate a "home game". I doubt that it will happen given UA's inability to fill the current facility capacity. It just doesn't make any business sense.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 16, 2014 18:42:35 GMT -5
Siena is the draw, Albany couldn't even sell 750 tickets. It stays as is, they don't like it, let them walk away If Siena was the draw... Why do you only have 5-6k at your games and not 10k? What an idiotic statement... This game is the draw, of which UA is an integral part. If UA is the draw, why is their only 1200 at most of your games? The ONLY game most of your "fans" care about is the one at a real arena where they can get a beer, meal and walk to the game.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 16, 2014 18:42:47 GMT -5
Circa, call me when football stadium happens. We will, then you can complain about your .30 cents in taxes you paid towards it. The difference is football is a UA priority, basketball is not. What is the seating capacity of the "planned" renovation. I hope it is at least 7000 to accommodate a "home game". I doubt that it will happen given UA's inability to fill the current facility capacity. It just doesn't make any business sense. You wouldn't know the first thing about Albany's priority, with all due respect. UA is a comprehensive athletic department.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 18:42:49 GMT -5
Circa, call me when football stadium happens. We will, then you can complain about your .30 cents in taxes you paid towards it. The difference is football is a UA priority, basketball is not. What is the seating capacity of the "planned" renovation. I hope it is at least 7000 to accommodate a "home game". I doubt that it will happen given UA's inability to fill the current facility capacity. It just doesn't make any business sense. It doesn't have to it will only cost us $14.00 in taxes.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 16, 2014 18:43:07 GMT -5
If Siena was the draw... Why do you only have 5-6k at your games and not 10k? What an idiotic statement... This game is the draw, of which UA is an integral part. If UA is the draw, why is their only 1200 at most of your games? The ONLY game most of your "fans" care about is the one at a real arena where they can get a beer, meal and walk to the game. UA isn't the draw, UA v Siena is the draw. For anyone here to deny this is dumb. If only Siena was the draw you'd have the 10k-11k crowd at every game. Truth is you have around 5k (half that).
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Post by Tony on Dec 16, 2014 18:43:34 GMT -5
you have to stop making stupid posts- you are wearing out your welcome-- Siena will have several games this year were we draw 7-8K in the MAAC tournament we will get 10K,, and I'm quite sure there are very few Alb fans there-- Alb has little to no fan support-- no comparison between the two programs -- dont even try to put two programs on same level as far as attendance You gonna run me? Lol. I never tried to compare the two fanbases there is no comparison. But don't sit there and tell me you'll have any game maac or non maac get anywhere near 10k. Don't be an imbecile...to say that this matchup isn't the reason for this crowd is BS. Just call it as it is, you don't want to ceede an inch to UA which is OK, but let's not pretend that UA v Siena isn't the reason for this crowd. clack-- you know not what you speak of, Siena has had several regular season crowds over 10K for MAAC games Niagara , Manhattan Iona, Fairfield have all drawn over 10K at TUC for regular season.. and Siena routinely goes over 10 k for MAAC tournament games-- nice try through Of course the local angle draws fans-- never tried to say it didnt-- but lets not be so stupid as to say Siena wont get 10 k for any other opponent, because history says your wrong..and the vast majority of fans at the game are SIENA FANS
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