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Post by Tony on Dec 29, 2013 16:33:29 GMT -5
Losing a scholarship big and adding a scholarship guard makes us loaded in the backcourt. Not necessarily since the big never played , plus two of the scholarship guards dont play much -- and when they do play they dont give us much ..Lavon is in the middle as a G/F while everyone else is either a guard or forward. .. What is Poole? What is Patrick Cole? No guards have left yet...those numbers mean alot of competition in the backcourt. ..I agree we need a backup pg... we already have 3s and 4s that can shoot the 3 2 of the scholarship guards are not giving us anything-- so don't even count them-- we have wright at 1-- White can play as can Cole.. Cole can also play the two or 3-- giving us room for shooter/ backup PG as for 3 and 4's that can shoot the 3-- who are you talking about other than Poole?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 16:40:50 GMT -5
Losing a scholarship big and adding a scholarship guard makes us loaded in the backcourt. Not necessarily since the big never played , plus two of the scholarship guards dont play much -- and when they do play they dont give us much ..Lavon is in the middle as a G/F while everyone else is either a guard or forward. .. What is Poole? What is Patrick Cole? No guards have left yet...those numbers mean alot of competition in the backcourt. ..I agree we need a backup pg... we already have 3s and 4s that can shoot the 3 2 of the scholarship guards are not giving us anything-- so don't even count them-- we have wright at 1-- White can play as can Cole.. Cole can also play the two or 3-- giving us room for shooter/ backup PG as for 3 and 4's that can shoot the 3-- who are you talking about other than Poole? Agreed. Poole and Cole can and will play the 2 and 3. Also agree that other than Poole there is no other "big" that other teams are going to worry about shooting threes
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2013 16:45:48 GMT -5
Long, Bisping and Wolfe can shoot 3's
I am going on the roster which reflects what the coaches believe. ..Long is the only one listed as a G/F everyone else is a listed as a guard or forward. It's not my opinion
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2013 16:50:30 GMT -5
Losing a scholarship big and adding a scholarship guard makes us loaded in the backcourt. Not necessarily since the big never played , plus two of the scholarship guards dont play much -- and when they do play they dont give us much ..Lavon is in the middle as a G/F while everyone else is either a guard or forward. .. What is Poole? What is Patrick Cole? No guards have left yet...those numbers mean alot of competition in the backcourt. ..I agree we need a backup pg... we already have 3s and 4s that can shoot the 3 2 of the scholarship guards are not giving us anything-- so don't even count them-- we have wright at 1-- White can play as can Cole.. Cole can also play the two or 3-- giving us room for shooter/ backup PG as for 3 and 4's that can shoot the 3-- who are you talking about other than Poole? You are replacing positions that are still on the roster rather than what left... from a numbers standpoint we have more guards than bigs at this point with Hopper gone whether he played or not....what is the goal here? To recruit over or replace?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 16:54:14 GMT -5
Long, Bisping and Wolfe have made a combined 6 threes in 12 games. That is not going to concern other teams. What is written on the team website is not important. It's what is happening on the court and the only 2 players, to my knowledge, that have played a decent amount of minutes at the G/F spots are Poole and White with Poole starting at both. Lets be honest that team roster on the Siena site goes back preseason. Obviously the staff feels differently now
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Post by Tony on Dec 29, 2013 17:11:44 GMT -5
Long, Bisping and Wolfe have made a combined 6 threes in 12 games. That is not going to concern other teams. What is written on the team website is not important. It's what is happening on the court and the only 2 players, to my knowledge, that have played a decent amount of minutes at the G/F spots are Poole and White with Poole starting at both. Lets be honest that team roster on the Siena site goes back preseason. Obviously the staff feels differently now Exactly-- I'm not going to get into bad mouthing the team or players--we are a weak 3 point shooting team. Not my opinion .. we have played 12 games look at the stats-- We have no back up point guard-- its pretty obvious what the glaring need is for -- PPC dont worry Lavon is a player and the kid is going to play --
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Post by bigsaintg on Dec 29, 2013 17:17:17 GMT -5
Why argue with a MOM with a narrow agenda. Can't reason with them. The fact is everyone JP is looking at can shoot and his #1 goal is to upgrade the talent. We need a shooter who can relieve Wright 5-10 minutes a game. We also need a PF who can shoot. Brett is playing good right now, but his upside is low compared to what we can get, especually when we announce A10.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2013 17:17:40 GMT -5
Long, Bisping and Wolfe have made a combined 6 threes in 12 games. That is not going to concern other teams. What is written on the team website is not important. It's what is happening on the court and the only 2 players, to my knowledge, that have played a decent amount of minutes at the G/F spots are Poole and White with Poole starting at both. Lets be honest that team roster on the Siena site goes back preseason. Obviously the staff feels differently now No the website came from the coaches and is the reality not the opinion of posters...the 2 and 3 are guard spots...the 4 is a guard on offense yet defends PFs vs teams with big line-ups... Long is 3-5 From 3 so far which shows he is capable. ..With JO back I believe he will shoot more of them going forward. ..Bisping and Wolfe are capable shooters as well..the offense has not been geared toward 3pt shooting outside of Poole...that will change as the players continue to improve
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2013 17:22:22 GMT -5
Long, Bisping and Wolfe have made a combined 6 threes in 12 games. That is not going to concern other teams. What is written on the team website is not important. It's what is happening on the court and the only 2 players, to my knowledge, that have played a decent amount of minutes at the G/F spots are Poole and White with Poole starting at both. Lets be honest that team roster on the Siena site goes back preseason. Obviously the staff feels differently now Exactly-- I'm not going to get into bad mouthing the team or players--we are a weak 3 point shooting team. Not my opinion .. we have played 12 games look at the stats-- We have no back up point guard-- its pretty obvious what the glaring need is for -- PPC dont worry Lavon is a player and the kid is going to play -- Recruiting shooters does not mean you dont have any...you want to bring in more and if you can upgrade thats great as well....once again I am not worried about Lavon playing...he is good enough to earn minutes on this team...his versatility is a big asset...the more you can do the more you will play
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2013 17:23:47 GMT -5
Why argue with a MOM with a narrow agenda. Can't reason with them. The fact is everyone JP is looking at can shoot and his #1 goal is to upgrade the talent. We need a shooter who can relieve Wright 5-10 minutes a game. We also need a PF who can shoot. Brett is playing good right now, but his upside is low compared to what we can get, especually when we announce A10. There you go again.. smh Just watch the games and you will see where I am coming from....there is no need to argue at all
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Post by bigsaintg on Dec 29, 2013 17:24:50 GMT -5
We don't have shoters. just go watch a game and you will see for your own eyes.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 29, 2013 17:25:43 GMT -5
Are we even shooting 30% from the 3-pt line as a team?? We DESPERATELY need shooters!! I don't care what letter you put next to their name either!
As for Hopper, the only surprise is that he's leaving mid-season. We all knew he was good as gone once he "redshirted" this year. So we could definitely bring in a midseason transfer if we wanted to in the next two weeks. Obviously it's a longshot that a good fit from a BCS school is leaving. Only guy I'd take right now is a combo guard that has to be able to play the point WELL.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 17:25:52 GMT -5
ok PPC..not looking to start a debate over a roster that was printed before games were played. Hopefully those three sharpshooters you say we have are hot tomorrow night because if Fordham is hot from 3 then Siena will need more than Poole hitting 3's to stay in the game. Can't win matching their 3 pointers with 2 pointers.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Dec 29, 2013 17:29:57 GMT -5
We don't have shoters. just go watch a game and you will see for your own eyes. Just because they have not shot many in the games does not mean they cant shoot...Poole has shot more 3's than everyone else combined almost...he is proven and his number is called for that purpose all of the time...I can see Bisping Long and Wolfe shooting more 3's going forward within the offense
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2013 17:30:45 GMT -5
The Gotham Hoop news flash just said Marcus has had interest from a couple of programs - that's good for him and confirms that Siena is not the only program that thought he was D1 capable. He is still at Siena and on the roster as a redshirt. He practiced yesterday and sat out today with an ice pack on the lower back. So I would guess he hasn't made any official commitments and we don't know the timing of the slots that the interest is based on. The other Gotham Hoop item is old and just reported what was reported here months ago with the additional factoid that he had "earned his transfer" whatever that means. Transfers aren't earned, they are granted - I believe the student is given a release but KnickSaint would know more on this. If a transfer were to come in now I believe he'd have to sit until the end of the first semester next year - would we then get an additional half year of playing time for him? Marcus hasn't, as far as I know, lost his scholarship so as of now we wouldn't have a ship to offer even for one semester. We all were fairly certain that Marcus would be gone after this year but this thread seems to have made a significant leap in that process that I don't think is the case YET.
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