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Post by MTS on Oct 15, 2013 11:03:42 GMT -5
The starters will sort it's way out as the season goes on and before we get into the full MAAC slate. Bottom line if Jimmy thinks Wolfe will help this year he'll play.. if he doesn't think he will he won't. I have full confidence and trust Jimmy will make the right call for this year's Siena team and in the future.
As far as the OOC goes there are 5 big games ... UAlbany, at Vermont, St. Bonnie, Fordham and Hofstra - we need to go 4-1 in those games and the good news is 4 of the 5 are at home (Vermont is on the road always tough to win there). Even if we don't upset anyone else and go 4-7 in the OOC a 12-8 MAAC record gives us a winning regular season at 16-15.
Yes this is a "rebuilding" or "bridge" season in terms of Siena making a run to the NCAA tournament but it doesn't mean we will stink. I expect to take some lumps but also the team dish out some beating on their own.
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Post by th24 on Oct 15, 2013 11:07:21 GMT -5
I have full confidence in THIS coaching staff. Both Silas and Bisping will be working their tails off in practice. I have no doubt they will be ready by the Albany game!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 11:16:27 GMT -5
Yep, Silas is our best shotblocker, but while you're doing your little math projections, let us know nhow many fouls Imoh gets per minute played You don't think I know Silas is foul prone? For the record, 4.15 fouls per 30 mins. As a soph, Rhamel Brown fouled 4.38 times per 30 mins. We all know he's jittery at times. But we also know that one day he could all of a sudden become Rhamel Brown. That doesn't just go away because Wolfe is here and he can run fast and jump high.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Oct 15, 2013 11:32:03 GMT -5
Yep, Silas is our best shotblocker, but while you're doing your little math projections, let us know nhow many fouls Imoh gets per minute played You don't think I know Silas is foul prone? For the record, 4.15 fouls per 30 mins. As a soph, Rhamel Brown fouled 4.38 times per 30 mins. We all know he's jittery at times. But we also know that one day he could all of a sudden become Rhamel Brown. That doesn't just go away because Wolfe is here and he can run fast and jump high. LOL, please don't compare Silas to Brown!! Brown: 11.4ppg, 7.2rpg and 95 blocks Silas: 3.6ppg, 3.0rpg and 31 blocks And I'll bet Imoh is older than Brown too.....
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 11:45:08 GMT -5
You don't think I know Silas is foul prone? For the record, 4.15 fouls per 30 mins. As a soph, Rhamel Brown fouled 4.38 times per 30 mins. We all know he's jittery at times. But we also know that one day he could all of a sudden become Rhamel Brown. That doesn't just go away because Wolfe is here and he can run fast and jump high. LOL, please don't compare Silas to Brown!! Brown: 11.4ppg, 7.2rpg and 95 blocks Silas: 3.6ppg, 3.0rpg and 31 blocks And I'll bet Imoh is older than Brown too..... First off, you're comparing numbers that aren't comparable because of minutes played.. If you're gonna throw numbers back at me, use them right. Second, I never said he was on Brown's level yet. It does not mean that they aren't comparable players, type wise, though. Silas' current block rate would have him at 61+ blocks in 1000 mins and that was in his first year in D1. Only 2 players in the entire league had over 43 blocks last year. Brown and Kemp. Silas was a slow starter last year. By far, his worst 2 months were in the fall. He blocked more shots and finished more efficiently as the year went on. See the splits: www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/imoh-silas-1/splits/2013/Seems to me that noboby should be writing him off in October. The guy was 6th in the league in blocks playing only half a year's worth of minutes.
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 15, 2013 11:47:31 GMT -5
People have a short memory. Rossiter HAD to play as a Frosh. Yes, we had Josh Duell but he needed someone to spell him. He couldn't play the mins needed (knees). Without Rossiter we were left with: Cory Magee, Erik Harris (walk-on) & James Carr. Rossiter was basically our #2 center behind Duell. Yes, Cory played the same mins per game but Rossiter HAD to play. This year' team is a little deeper at center. Wolfe may not be needed if it's in his interest to sit out a year. We have Imoh, JO, & Bisping. We have the luxury of red shirting Wolf if needed. We didn't have the luxury of red shirting Rossiter . I don't view that team & Rossiter comparable to this team & Wolfe (big men wise). Who knows, Wolfe may not redshirt & we're debating this for nothing. Teams that go 8-24, and lose 3 of their top 5 players (the 2 back are guards--Poole & Hymes) don't have the "luxury of redshirting" anyone!! lol Again, why Silas and Bisping make all you people sleep so well at night, is a mystery. Like I said earlier, I'm ok with coaches red shirting Wolfe (don't forget Wolfe has to agree) & ok with Not red shirting him. If there's a family deal, ok; if not the coaching staff doesn't think he's ready - no matter how talented/athletic you think he is. I'm not convinced it's a family deal. I think it's more of development (either physically or D1 readiness as a freshman). Maybe I'm wrong & his father wants "xx" number of mins guaranteed & Jimmy can't guarantee it. I don't know, but I have faith in the coaching staff to make the right call.
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 15, 2013 11:54:42 GMT -5
I have full confidence in THIS coaching staff. Both Silas and Bisping will be working their tails off in practice. I have no doubt they will be ready by the Albany game! Agree, with statement that Jimmy has said the starters will be determined by how they practice. That's a good motivation, because it'll make guys like White, Cole, & Wolfe practice harder for it (currently they don't appear to be in the mix for whatever reason(s)). White ( & Cole if eligible) will play a lot this year even if they don't start. Wolfe only if he doesn't RS. Keeps guys from not practicing hard. if they don't they may not play. Good incentive.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 12:15:00 GMT -5
The main thing Silas needs to change to be successful is cutting down on the brain lapses and stupid turnovers. I don't even mind him fouling some on his shot block attempts. Just no dumb fouls or on illegal screens on offense.
Ironically, that was probably half of his fouls last year. Also, a lot of his turnovers were on traveling calls and some were even quite questionable. If Silas is turning it over 2x a game or less, you start him. No brainer. We need the defense and rebounding. Any higher, and you really need to start to think about other options. You can't give the ball away and expect to win. If Javion is turning it over just as much, will you still get the same defense? Will any difference in offense from Silas outweigh the lack of defense? These are probably the questions Jimmy is wrestling with.
Silas is a defensive big. He's never going to get the attention from crowds as more offensive players will. But he has his pivots and so far he's finished efficiently. Just get him to keep the turnovers down and you let him anchor your defense.
I think we could end up with a committee approach to the center position much like last year with the PF position, though.
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Post by th24 on Oct 15, 2013 12:34:49 GMT -5
One thing thats going to help this team is having less distractions off the court. They can focus on BASKETBALL..and not worry about other crap going on!!
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Post by Sienafan on Oct 15, 2013 14:56:56 GMT -5
The main thing Silas needs to change to be successful is cutting down on the brain lapses and stupid turnovers. I don't even mind him fouling some on his shot block attempts. Just no dumb fouls or on illegal screens on offense. Ironically, that was probably half of his fouls last year. Also, a lot of his turnovers were on traveling calls and some were even quite questionable. If Silas is turning it over 2x a game or less, you start him. No brainer. We need the defense and rebounding. Any higher, and you really need to start to think about other options. You can't give the ball away and expect to win. If Javion is turning it over just as much, will you still get the same defense? Will any difference in offense from Silas outweigh the lack of defense? These are probably the questions Jimmy is wrestling with. Silas is a defensive big. He's never going to get the attention from crowds as more offensive players will. But he has his pivots and so far he's finished efficiently. Just get him to keep the turnovers down and you let him anchor your defense. I think we could end up with a committee approach to the center position much like last year with the PF position, though. You have to concede that Silas has been having a rough pre-season so far. He was dreadful in Montreal, leading to his benching. And by all accounts, he's stuggling in practice a little over 3 weeks before the season begins. He's not making the best case for himself this season despite all your facts and figures from last season. I'm not willing to throw the kid under the bus like some here. But if the season started today, there's no way Silas would be starting at the 5.
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Post by playerparentcoach on Oct 15, 2013 15:11:41 GMT -5
Last year, in his first year in D1, Silas had a block rate that would have put him over 60 blocks in 1000 mins and he had a FG% of 60% in actual games. All of a sudden, people are ready to put him on the scout team because he had some turnovers in Montreal and had a bad practice. Last year in the Skidmore exhibition he fouled out in like 5 mins. Silas is probably a our best shotblocker and rebounder. He makes mental mistakes, sure. But he's a big piece of this team. Bisping is a great shooter, maybe even our best. It doesn't seem like Jimmy is using him as one. Just 1 3PA in 5 games in Montreal? He's not a defensive star by any means but he can score. Wolfe is a tall athletic freak with ball skills and because of that he has the highest upside. We all know that. I wouldn't redshirt him or anyone at Siena because they won't be here for year 5 but one practice also doesn't mean he's better than the other players yet either. Maybe it is inevitable that he eventually becomes a starter. But he has to earn it first. [/quote Yep, Silas is our best shotblocker, but while you're doing your little math projections, let us know nhow many fouls Imoh gets per minute played IF Bisping is our center (some using as better option than Wolfe) and he's our best shooter, we're in a world of trouble!! IF Wolfe plays all year, he'll definitely be the best big man on the team by March. IF we can all admit that this is a rebuilding year and we're gonna take our lumps, I want our most talented kids taking those lumps because the reward next year will be great. And PPC, I'm not hung up on one practice, that's just the first time I saw Wolfe. YOU'RE hung up on Montreal and how these kids did against D-2 schools. It's early in the practice season, and my guy will get better everyday, but if JP had a RS deal with the family, it's all a moot point. Not hung up on Montreal or any one part of this....bottom line when you look at EVERYTHING up to this point and make a decision. ..the RS option was contingent on what his eval is up to this point. ...If Patsos believes he would be the best big by March he would not RS him...everyone is not going to play...and everyone does not have the option to RS..Wolfe has 3 guys in front of him after all that has been done so far
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Post by Deleted on Oct 15, 2013 15:21:05 GMT -5
Teams that go 8-24, and lose 3 of their top 5 players (the 2 back are guards--Poole & Hymes) don't have the "luxury of redshirting" anyone!! lol Again, why Silas and Bisping make all you people sleep so well at night, is a mystery. Like I said earlier, I'm ok with coaches red shirting Wolfe (don't forget Wolfe has to agree) & ok with Not red shirting him. If there's a family deal, ok; if not the coaching staff doesn't think he's ready - no matter how talented/athletic you think he is. I'm not convinced it's a family deal. I think it's more of development (either physically or D1 readiness as a freshman). Maybe I'm wrong & his father wants "xx" number of mins guaranteed & Jimmy can't guarantee it. I don't know, but I have faith in the coaching staff to make the right call. Wolfe "has to agree" to redshirt? What planet are you on? If the coach says "you aren't playing", do you honestly think a player will say, "that's okay, I'll throw away a year of eligibility"? Actually, it doesn't matter, because if you don't play, you keep your eligibility. But that statement was ridiculous.
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Post by IndianSaint on Oct 15, 2013 15:43:46 GMT -5
Like I said earlier, I'm ok with coaches red shirting Wolfe (don't forget Wolfe has to agree) & ok with Not red shirting him. If there's a family deal, ok; if not the coaching staff doesn't think he's ready - no matter how talented/athletic you think he is. I'm not convinced it's a family deal. I think it's more of development (either physically or D1 readiness as a freshman). Maybe I'm wrong & his father wants "xx" number of mins guaranteed & Jimmy can't guarantee it. I don't know, but I have faith in the coaching staff to make the right call. Wolfe "has to agree" to redshirt? What planet are you on? If the coach says "you aren't playing", do you honestly think a player will say, "that's okay, I'll throw away a year of eligibility"? Actually, it doesn't matter, because if you don't play, you keep your eligibility. But that statement was ridiculous. Who was at the Siena luncheon when Jimmy said he'd like to RS Wolfe , but it's up to him & his family? I'm not dreaming this stuff up, he said it; or said something to that point. A coach can't RS a player w/out their permission. How is that stmt ridiculous? Maybe he only wants to play 4 yrs, graduate & move on. It's happened. What planet am I from, that's funny.
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Post by Tony on Oct 15, 2013 16:40:57 GMT -5
Per Silas—he has to stop pressing and play within himself- he is never going to be a big scorer like RR or OD.. he has to play more like Monty Henderson—rebound the ball, block some shots and get garbage points. One time At Dee, Dee’s Deaner was talking to me about Monty—he use to tell him if you look down and see paint on the floor you can shoot—if not pass the ball to Marc Brown..maybe not that extreme for Silas- but he has to go to what he does well—once he accepts that he will be fine
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Post by OneIndian on Oct 15, 2013 17:54:56 GMT -5
We're gonna struggle to hit 500 ? WRONG!! One thing I did see on Saturday- This Siena team has to potential to win 17-20 games this season. It's going to leadership, discipline and hard work ! But the talent is there 20 wins you're a comedian. It's gonna take a hell of a lot more than a bunch of cheesy clichés and annoying bold fonts to get to twenty. Not gonna happen.
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