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Post by DelmartianEd on Mar 14, 2013 17:57:06 GMT -5
The A-10 isn't going to drop *that* much, particularly since other conferences are getting raided too. The Creighton-less Missouri Valley and Memphis-less Conference USA aren't threats. The A-10 will still be a Top 10 conference in the RPI ranks. Right now the A-10 outranks the SEC and last year they outranked the Pac-12. That sort of thing would probably happen less. Maybe they'd fall to below the WCC. But they're still gonna be above everybody else.
January and February conference games against VCU, St. Joe's, URI, and Richmond sound more appealing than our current conference slate against Iona, Manhattan, Fairfield, and Marist. (And Siena could still play a bunch of the MAAC teams in November and December.)
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Post by gorvy on Mar 14, 2013 18:02:44 GMT -5
While I don't agree that the Sun Belt is better than the MAAC, nonetheless I agree with Billmurray and Section2 that this is not a huge step up but is a step up and also stops us from going down by association. The MAAC made the most assinine decision in its history when it decided to shut out NYC from watching the only weekend that matters in the MAAC-- just a horrendous move to shut out tens of thousands of fans who might actually go to a MAAC school just so that Joe BLow farmer from Oregon can catch a game on an internet channel when he probably was looking for porn.
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Post by knicksaint on Mar 14, 2013 19:17:14 GMT -5
Who said anything about 1994? I didn't and neither did the article. And by the way, the MAAc's first year with two bids was 1995, when Manhattan, the at-large selecton, beat Oklahoma. I know you didn't,that doesn't mean it didn't happen. You read one article and believed it told everything. The Sun Belt had 2 bids in 1994. Now I'm done. Scott took us way off topic. To clarify, you DID say 2008 was only time in last 20 years. That's why 1994 was mentioned. I stand corrected. The Sun Belt did get two bids in 1994 (you could have said that in your reply to my first post but neglected to do so, for whatever reason). So that means in the last 19 years (1994-2012) both the SBC and the MAAC had two bids twice. How does that make the SBC "traditionally a multi bid league" and "far superior to the MAAC," which were your original assertions? My point was and still is that you were way off base in what you posted. If you don't see that, there is no purpose in continuing this discussion.
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Post by Tony on Mar 15, 2013 5:10:44 GMT -5
Getting this thread back on topic- Actually it would still be a huge move. The A10 would still be a multibid conference most years , albeit nowhere near as strong as last decade with Temple and Xavier as flagship programs. But a considerable jump. Siena could most definitely compete and would likely lead the conference in attendance its first year in. Our TV market is 57th ( one spot better than Richmond) we are already televised throughout NY courtesy of Time Warner . In fact other than Cuse we probably get more TV time across state than any other team. With the TUC expanded ARC next year our facilities are on par with rest of conference, so the infrastructure is there to be successful – I think it would be a great move as I fear the MAAC is a sinking ship
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Post by billmurray on Mar 15, 2013 7:30:50 GMT -5
Getting this thread back on topic- Actually it would still be a huge move. The A10 would still be a multibid conference most years , albeit nowhere near as strong as last decade with Temple and Xavier as flagship programs. But a considerable jump. Siena could most definitely compete and would likely lead the conference in attendance its first year in. Our TV market is 57th ( one spot better than Richmond) we are already televised throughout NY courtesy of Time Warner . In fact other than Cuse we probably get more TV time across state than any other team. With the TUC expanded ARC next year our facilities are on par with rest of conference, so the infrastructure is there to be successful – I think it would be a great move as I fear the MAAC is a sinking ship Well there seems to have been a cosmic shift. We agree 100%.
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Post by nolesaint on Mar 15, 2013 7:41:07 GMT -5
There are SOO many conference moves happening right now that noone really knows how most conference rankings are going to shake out in the end.
Moving to the A-10 is a great move for Siena!
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Post by section2 on Mar 15, 2013 7:43:58 GMT -5
I don't think anyone said it was a bad move.
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Post by gosaints on Mar 18, 2013 17:31:22 GMT -5
Lets think about this a minute! I just checked Iowa's site and they're selling NIT tickets for $15 ea to the general public. I believe a season ticket in the lower bowl for the siena games runs around $250 ea. This year there were 14 home games which works out to about $18 a game or 20% higher than Iowa is charging for the NIT. Why are we all rushing to accept a 25% to 50% increase in the ticket prices for a move to the A10?
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Post by sienadan on Mar 18, 2013 17:49:11 GMT -5
Lets think about this a minute! I just checked Iowa's site and they're selling NIT tickets for $15 ea to the general public. I believe a season ticket in the lower bowl for the siena games runs around $250 ea. This year there were 14 home games which works out to about $18 a game or 20% higher than Iowa is charging for the NIT. Why are we all rushing to accept a 25% to 50% increase in the ticket prices for a move to the A10? Siena doesn't have a football program that generates $35 million a year. And it is Iowa.
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Post by billmurray on Mar 18, 2013 17:50:28 GMT -5
Lets think about this a minute! I just checked Iowa's site and they're selling NIT tickets for $15 ea to the general public. I believe a season ticket in the lower bowl for the siena games runs around $250 ea. This year there were 14 home games which works out to about $18 a game or 20% higher than Iowa is charging for the NIT. Why are we all rushing to accept a 25% to 50% increase in the ticket prices for a move to the A10? Siena doesn't have a football program that generates $35 million a year. And it is Iowa. Accurate.
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Post by Tony on Mar 18, 2013 17:51:12 GMT -5
Major programs almost always discount prices for NIT games.. Iowa regular season tickets are about 320..or 35 bucks a seat and that's before any seat licensing.. College basketball is a arms race.Money talks and $hit walks
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Post by brian on Mar 18, 2013 17:53:41 GMT -5
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Post by billmurray on Mar 18, 2013 17:56:35 GMT -5
Major programs almost always discount prices for NIT games.. Iowa regular season tickets are about 320..or 35 bucks a seat and that's before any seat licensing.. College basketball is a arms race.Money talks and $hit walks Accurate Tony and Iowa is trying to get fans back after years of subpar results. They are now in the 6-7 K range. When they were making NCAA runs regularly they averaged 15K per game. Siena will need additonal $ if they get the invite to the A10 and basketball is their only money maker.
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Post by lmnop22 on Mar 18, 2013 18:14:30 GMT -5
If you think Siena is going to go to the A10, bump up salaries for head and assistant coaches and help fund their other programs off of a TV contract and not raise ticket prices like VCU then you are dreaming lol
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Post by Tony on Mar 18, 2013 18:41:22 GMT -5
If you think Siena is going to go to the A10, bump up salaries for head and assistant coaches and help fund their other programs off of a TV contract and not raise ticket prices like VCU then you are dreaming lol Small price to pay if you ask me... I dont think Siena will go crazy to start.. but yes Prices will go up , if we go to A10... but prices will be competitive with other A10 venues
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