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Post by orange77 on Nov 10, 2018 17:00:11 GMT -5
I'm also in the camp of those who say give Darwiche some time to develop. It seems like many expect guards to enter their freshman year at the peak of their development. Whatever happened to kids being allowed to toil away for a year or two and blossom in their later years? Like Bigfan I was impressed by the little bit of video I had seen of Darwiche, and still think he has great potential. If not yet, then hopefully with help from JC and staff.
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Post by onionsbaby on Nov 12, 2018 9:38:51 GMT -5
I watched both games and actually really liked what I saw from the Darwiche. He is very quick and shifty and made some impressive passes. His #'s so far are decent too. He is Crashing the boards and hustling.
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Post by sienafanallyearlong2 on Nov 12, 2018 21:24:56 GMT -5
When your 8-24 in the previous year, your not rebuilding. You better be expecting improvement.
After seeing a lot of positives in the first two games against a higher level of competition there is absolutely no reason the expectations should not be way way higher than what they appear to be for many on this board.
I think if you asked coach, his expectations would be much higher of himself so why not follow suit.
It should all start with owning our home court and with this schedule and this coach I would expect this team will be winning 3 out of every 4 at home; going 10-4/7-2 in league play at home.
I think 7-10/3-6 in league play away is again a very realistic expectation away from home.
The expectation for an overall record of 17-14/10-8 in league play or better is what my expectations; not surprise are.
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Post by musicman on Nov 12, 2018 21:47:15 GMT -5
When your 8-24 in the previous year, your not rebuilding. You better be expecting improvement. After seeing a lot of positives in the first two games against a higher level of competition there is absolutely no reason the expectations should not be way way higher than what they appear to be for many on this board. I think if you asked coach, his expectations would be much higher of himself so why not follow suit. It should all start with owning our home court and with this schedule and this coach I would expect this team will be winning 3 out of every 4 at home; going 10-4/7-2 in league play at home. I think 7-10/3-6 in league play away is again a very realistic expectation away from home. The expectation for an overall record of 17-14/10-8 in league play or better is what my expectations; not surprise are. I love your attitude! I would imagine that most all of our fans would be thrilled with that sort of record. Even if they fall short I think that most of us are going to enjoy watching this team grow and improve. With this great new and hard working staff, the future looks bright! |
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Post by Sienafan on Nov 13, 2018 0:00:53 GMT -5
Darwiche and Bayer are my only two disappointments. Iona brings in 5th year kids and they start. We bring our first one in and he's the 12th man. Darwiche isnt used to this much athleticism and aggressive defense. Not sure he has the skills to go by kids at this level, and thats going to be a problem. I wish JC had the confidence in Kadeem to run the point when Pickett gets a breather. Well there is a big difference between the types of 5th years Siena and Iona would pursue. Iona has almost no selectivity in its admissions. Theirs usually have past academic issues and are on the extended plan trying to pursue a bachelor's while Siena's is pursuing a grad degree. So you're not going to see the same type of player they get. That said, I wouldn't expect too many of those types of players at Siena. I don't think it's going to be their thing like Jucos aren't - albeit for different reasons. |
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 13, 2018 6:54:40 GMT -5
What I have seen from Darwiche so far is that he is AMPED to be on the court. It is blatantly obvious that this is truly his life long dream. Watch him on the sideline and hes actively leading the cheers. See him take the court and hes bouncing around. Darwiche needs to just settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. The team is still learning each other and of course with the injury to Richard, Darwiche is thrust into a role on the second team that will require some adjustment from him. As the team gets their spacing and movement down they will also not leave him stranded at the top of the key as theyve done a few times to this point. But the biggest thing for him... settle down and let the game come to you. He wants this so bad and right now its hindering him just a tad.
and remember... so far he's played against a Big East team and an A10 team as his first forays into US College Basketball.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 7:28:18 GMT -5
What I have seen from Darwiche so far is that he is AMPED to be on the court. It is blatantly obvious that this is truly his life long dream. Watch him on the sideline and hes actively leading the cheers. See him take the court and hes bouncing around. Darwiche needs to just settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. The team is still learning each other and of course with the injury to Richard, Darwiche is thrust into a role on the second team that will require some adjustment from him. As the team gets their spacing and movement down they will also not leave him stranded at the top of the key as theyve done a few times to this point. But the biggest thing for him... settle down and let the game come to you. He wants this so bad and right now its hindering him just a tad. and remember... so far he's played against a Big East team and an A10 team as his first forays into US College Basketball. Trial by fire. |
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Post by Sienafan on Nov 13, 2018 9:32:48 GMT -5
What I have seen from Darwiche so far is that he is AMPED to be on the court. It is blatantly obvious that this is truly his life long dream. Watch him on the sideline and hes actively leading the cheers. See him take the court and hes bouncing around. Darwiche needs to just settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. The team is still learning each other and of course with the injury to Richard, Darwiche is thrust into a role on the second team that will require some adjustment from him. As the team gets their spacing and movement down they will also not leave him stranded at the top of the key as theyve done a few times to this point. But the biggest thing for him... settle down and let the game come to you. He wants this so bad and right now its hindering him just a tad. and remember... so far he's played against a Big East team and an A10 team as his first forays into US College Basketball. Seymour and Pickett have also played against a Big East team and an A10 team as their first forays into US College Basketball too. And they've been outstanding. |
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Post by siena79 on Nov 13, 2018 9:56:34 GMT -5
When your 8-24 in the previous year, your not rebuilding. You better be expecting improvement. After seeing a lot of positives in the first two games against a higher level of competition there is absolutely no reason the expectations should not be way way higher than what they appear to be for many on this board. I think if you asked coach, his expectations would be much higher of himself so why not follow suit. It should all start with owning our home court and with this schedule and this coach I would expect this team will be winning 3 out of every 4 at home; going 10-4/7-2 in league play at home. I think 7-10/3-6 in league play away is again a very realistic expectation away from home. The expectation for an overall record of 17-14/10-8 in league play or better is what my expectations; not surprise are. I love your attitude! I would imagine that most all of our fans would be thrilled with that sort of record. Even if they fall short I think that most of us are going to enjoy watching this team grow and improve. With this great new and hard working staff, the future looks bright! Lets have some sense of reality, an 8 win team that loses its top 5 players and has a very late hire coach. I will be thrilled with effort, growth and setting a foundation. Placing expectations for a lot of wins is quite unfair and unrealistic (but I sure hope I am wrong!). Go Saints! |
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Post by $cott on Nov 13, 2018 10:37:51 GMT -5
What I have seen from Darwiche so far is that he is AMPED to be on the court. It is blatantly obvious that this is truly his life long dream. Watch him on the sideline and hes actively leading the cheers. See him take the court and hes bouncing around. Darwiche needs to just settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. The team is still learning each other and of course with the injury to Richard, Darwiche is thrust into a role on the second team that will require some adjustment from him. As the team gets their spacing and movement down they will also not leave him stranded at the top of the key as theyve done a few times to this point. But the biggest thing for him... settle down and let the game come to you. He wants this so bad and right now its hindering him just a tad. and remember... so far he's played against a Big East team and an A10 team as his first forays into US College Basketball. Seymour and Pickett have also played against a Big East team and an A10 team as their first forays into US College Basketball too. And they've been outstanding. And in those same two games that Darwiche has apparently sucked and Seymour has been outstanding the 6'1" Darwiche is averaging a rebound every 4 minutes while the 6'9" Seymour is averaging a rebound every 47 minutes. Everyone brings their own skill set and will develop at their own speed. Let's not pass judgement on freshman after two games, that sort of judgement led people to think Maurice White would be a much better player than Ogunyemi and even Marquis Wright. |
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Post by IndianSaint on Nov 13, 2018 11:38:53 GMT -5
What I have seen from Darwiche so far is that he is AMPED to be on the court. It is blatantly obvious that this is truly his life long dream. Watch him on the sideline and hes actively leading the cheers. See him take the court and hes bouncing around. Darwiche needs to just settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. The team is still learning each other and of course with the injury to Richard, Darwiche is thrust into a role on the second team that will require some adjustment from him. As the team gets their spacing and movement down they will also not leave him stranded at the top of the key as theyve done a few times to this point. But the biggest thing for him... settle down and let the game come to you. He wants this so bad and right now its hindering him just a tad. and remember... so far he's played against a Big East team and an A10 team as his first forays into US College Basketball. Seymour and Pickett have also played against a Big East team and an A10 team as their first forays into US College Basketball too. And they've been outstanding. As I noted earlier Darwiche, is a little behind the rest of the Siena players who were working out together all summer kind. He only arrived on campus a couple weeks before school started. Couple that with others indicating foreign players may take time to adjust to NCAA basketball. I’m still expecting him to show his true worth to the team during this season; let’s just give him some time. |
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Post by Sienafan on Nov 13, 2018 12:44:23 GMT -5
Seymour and Pickett have also played against a Big East team and an A10 team as their first forays into US College Basketball too. And they've been outstanding. And in those same two games that Darwiche has apparently sucked and Seymour has been outstanding the 6'1" Darwiche is averaging a rebound every 4 minutes while the 6'9" Seymour is averaging a rebound every 47 minutes. Everyone brings their own skill set and will develop at their own speed. Let's not pass judgement on freshman after two games, that sort of judgement led people to think Maurice White would be a much better player than Ogunyemi and even Marquis Wright. That's all well and I good. I'm just responding to the suggestion that Darwiche's troubles were somehow due to the level of competition - which didn't appear to negatively effect two other freshman. |
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Post by MTS on Nov 13, 2018 13:28:39 GMT -5
It's way too early to anoint anyone or bury anyone. I'm not comparing Darwiche to Ubiles by ANY stretch but remember Ubiles got shutout in his first college game at Stanford.
I do think Pickett is the real deal. He just has that "look". I want to see him do it for a longer stretch but he is going to be a good one I do believe.
Seymour can really shoot it and at 6'9 that's going to be a problem in the MAAC. He needs to get stronger but he has solid potential. Ratliff looks like a typical glue guy you need in a winning program.
All in all I really like this first class JC brought in especially how late he got here. If we sign a big one next year (already have two inked) watch out Siena will be well on their way back to the top of the MAAC!
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Post by SaintsFan on Nov 13, 2018 15:28:43 GMT -5
What I have seen from Darwiche so far is that he is AMPED to be on the court. It is blatantly obvious that this is truly his life long dream. Watch him on the sideline and hes actively leading the cheers. See him take the court and hes bouncing around. Darwiche needs to just settle down a little bit and let the game come to him. The team is still learning each other and of course with the injury to Richard, Darwiche is thrust into a role on the second team that will require some adjustment from him. As the team gets their spacing and movement down they will also not leave him stranded at the top of the key as theyve done a few times to this point. But the biggest thing for him... settle down and let the game come to you. He wants this so bad and right now its hindering him just a tad. and remember... so far he's played against a Big East team and an A10 team as his first forays into US College Basketball. Seymour and Pickett have also played against a Big East team and an A10 team as their first forays into US College Basketball too. And they've been outstanding. Seymour and Pickett also get all the practice minutes with the first team and much of their court time with that same team. Darwiche is playing with whatever is on the floor at the time. I watched a number of times where he was handed the ball in games and everyone left him stranded. Pickett in particular gets screens and sometimes double screens (he isnt exactly blazing fast) to free himself up. A lot of times no one is coming to free darwiche until hes already in trouble. This is all timing the team has to learn... both starters.. and bench. There are times though, by his own mistakes... he's forcibly trying to get the offense going in a particular direction. He is trying to force the offense and there is no need for that. As he settles in and gets comfortable he will be just fine. |
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Post by mike60 on Nov 13, 2018 16:26:42 GMT -5
Some of you forget what Ryan R. was like early on in his freshman year. There were three guys who sat very near me who said that they couldn't understand why they got him since he wasn't fast and couldn't jump high. I guess he showed them.
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