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Post by olddave on Dec 11, 2015 7:30:08 GMT -5
Clack you got a W at Washington but somehow you always forget they came in down their top 2 players and lost their next best player less than 5 minutes in. Yes a W but with a big *.
CR yes UA in CAA football, how well do they do for the ROI. Candidly think CAA taking advantage of situation. Stand by what I suggested in 15 years, due to no fault of the school players coaches football at the level UA currently plays at will not be the same product. The pipeline for players is drying up, players will be there but not at the current caliber, larger school will gobble those good, players up.
Tony spot on with finances, include any move to a more competitive league will take how much potential revenue from the athletic department with failures of making NCAA. No way UA goes 3 years in a row in CAA. IMO if UA were in the MAAC they still wouldn't have gone to the dance.
As far as JP coaching, to be fair first 2Games with UA needs a pass. If memory serves me first game Siena had a substantial lead and succumbed to a talented UA team. Last year injuries plagued the team, but the team issues fell on JP. This year pressure is on. Depends on which set of players want the game more.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 11, 2015 8:24:25 GMT -5
It's almost maxes your building out, no other game does that. It gets you coverage and media attention in your building. So much innuendo and outright falsehoods in some of these statements by Clack, lets set the record straight Siena doesn’t need this game for media coverage- since Saints get coverage every game- the program that needs the media attention far more is Albany- look no further than your attendance numbers vs Siena As for Albany men’s basketball budget – Siena men’s budget is 25% bigger, reason why UA is in AE is they cant afford jump to CAA which would require at least a million dollar a year increase. Football team is gobbling up resources with jump to CAA- neither program generates much revenue .in short unless until UA gets massive increases in revenue from either football team or basketball team UA isn’t going anywhere- money just isn’t there. As for Sefcu being gutted and renovated when was that announced ? Perhaps I missed that—Clack you care to post link? Did you pull that last paragraph from your mocking of UA getting a football stadium? How did that work out, Tony?
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Post by clickclack on Dec 11, 2015 8:35:16 GMT -5
Clack you got a W at Washington but somehow you always forget they came in down their top 2 players and lost their next best player less than 5 minutes in. Yes a W but with a big *. CR yes UA in CAA football, how well do they do for the ROI. Candidly think CAA taking advantage of situation. Stand by what I suggested in 15 years, due to no fault of the school players coaches football at the level UA currently plays at will not be the same product. The pipeline for players is drying up, players will be there but not at the current caliber, larger school will gobble those good, players up. Tony spot on with finances, include any move to a more competitive league will take how much potential revenue from the athletic department with failures of making NCAA. No way UA goes 3 years in a row in CAA. IMO if UA were in the MAAC they still wouldn't have gone to the dance. As far as JP coaching, to be fair first 2Games with UA needs a pass. If memory serves me first game Siena had a substantial lead and succumbed to a talented UA team. Last year injuries plagued the team, but the team issues fell on JP. This year pressure is on. Depends on which set of players want the game more. It's absolutely ridiculous Dave that you would try the put ANY qualifier on a legitimate BCS win. No one gives a shit who didn't play, that was a legit BCS team with 13 BCS level players, UA traveled across the country and beat Washington (thank you for the correction hj) fair and square. Your lame repeated attempts to minimize that win or put an asterisk on it shows what a weasel you are. It kills you that you can no longer stick in our face that UA has never beaten a BCS team so you do the next best thing, find some other way to minimize or discredit. Not gonna happen Dave... Deal with it. As for the rest of your post, it's hard to find a more clueless poster on here as to what UA can and can't do. You simply have no clue...
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Post by Tony on Dec 11, 2015 8:35:30 GMT -5
So much innuendo and outright falsehoods in some of these statements by Clack, lets set the record straight Siena doesn’t need this game for media coverage- since Saints get coverage every game- the program that needs the media attention far more is Albany- look no further than your attendance numbers vs Siena As for Albany men’s basketball budget – Siena men’s budget is 25% bigger, reason why UA is in AE is they cant afford jump to CAA which would require at least a million dollar a year increase. Football team is gobbling up resources with jump to CAA- neither program generates much revenue .in short unless until UA gets massive increases in revenue from either football team or basketball team UA isn’t going anywhere- money just isn’t there. As for Sefcu being gutted and renovated when was that announced ? Perhaps I missed that—Clack you care to post link? Did you pull that last paragraph from your mocking of UA getting a football stadium? How did that work out, Tony? You must be confusing me with someone else- never mocked UA's football stadium..anyway I'm interested in the link for UA gutting and complete renovation of Sefcu-- where is the link love to read about that. Or is that your hope? -- and that's OK if it's your hope- but please label it as that
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Post by indian82 on Dec 11, 2015 8:36:42 GMT -5
As for UA & finances, I would never discount the juggernaut of NYS and its politics which can always provide funds. Depending on how the teams do and how the admins in charge at any particular time can sell it, we all know how state govt could work. If a good salesman can convince the politicos that a jump in conf would benefit SUNY overall and maybe pay for itself, then it could happen. However, that would be a tough sell right now as the winds of change would be on the side of caution with the corruption trial of Silver and (that other guy and his son - brain fart, right now - lol!). Also there may be something else with the big funds that went to the Buffalo region. But I never discount that.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 11, 2015 8:44:46 GMT -5
Did you pull that last paragraph from your mocking of UA getting a football stadium? How did that work out, Tony? You must be confusing me with someone else- never mocked UA's football stadium..anyway I'm interested in the link for UA gutting and complete renovation of Sefcu-- where is the link love to read about that. Or is that your hope? -- and that's OK if it's your hope- but please label it as that Just because it's not a public link doesn't mean work isn't ongoing in this space. We can have a off-line conversation... You know how these things work.
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Post by Tony on Dec 11, 2015 8:48:27 GMT -5
Agreed I82 but even NYS has its limits. UA has to start generating some revenue to justify any potential increases in funding. Actually the UA AD is very shrewd, by getting a Home game with Siena , the AD gave up short term revenue for long term gain, his hope is two fold, the Siena game at Sefcu next year will drive season ticket sales, and that any casual fans that sample Sefcu for UA/Siena game will like it and return for future games. Lets face it basically only time sefcu is full is for BPG or AE tourney games.
UA has a lot of built advantages- but make no mistakle about it, the football team and basketball team has to generate increased revenue for UA to take "next step"
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Post by Tony on Dec 11, 2015 8:49:37 GMT -5
You must be confusing me with someone else- never mocked UA's football stadium..anyway I'm interested in the link for UA gutting and complete renovation of Sefcu-- where is the link love to read about that. Or is that your hope? -- and that's OK if it's your hope- but please label it as that Just because it's not a public link doesn't mean work isn't ongoing in this space. We can have a off-line conversation... You know how these things work. I thought so... nothing but talk..and you know what they say about talk - thank you for clarifying
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Post by clickclack on Dec 11, 2015 8:51:33 GMT -5
Just because it's not a public link doesn't mean work isn't ongoing in this space. We can have a off-line conversation... You know how these things work. I thought so... nothing but talk..and you know what they say about talk - thank you for clarifying It was all talk with the football stadium as well until it wasn't...I will put it to you this way. Gutting or significant renovation to sefcu is now the #1 UA athletic department priority.
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Post by Tony on Dec 11, 2015 8:56:19 GMT -5
I thought so... nothing but talk..and you know what they say about talk - thank you for clarifying It was all talk with the football stadium as well until it wasn't... let's be clear here-- I never said Football stadium wouldn't be built, and I'm not saying Sefcu will never be gutted and renovated --all I'm saying is there is nothing in the "works" for that project at this time. I'm sure its all Alb fans hope that it someday happens-- and that day will surely come, when they day is, well that's the part up for debate these type things normally take years to go from talking stage to something actually happening do you have a link for gutting and renovating sefcu is #1 priority? I would think getting football budget up to CAA standards would be #1 priority( but hey what do i know) just saying please don't pass off your hope and desires as UA official athletic dept policy
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Post by clickclack on Dec 11, 2015 9:01:34 GMT -5
It was all talk with the football stadium as well until it wasn't... let's be clear here-- I never said Football stadium wouldn't be built, and I'm not saying Sefcu will never be gutted and renovated --all I'm saying is there is nothing in the "works" for that project at this time. I'm sure its all Alb fans hope that it someday happens-- and that day will surely come, when they day is, well that's the part up for debate these type things normally take years to go from talking stage to something actually happening do you have a link for gutting and renovating sefcu is #1 priority? I would think getting football budget up to CAA standards would be #1 priority( but hey what do i know) just saying please don't pass off your hope and desires as UA official athletic dept policy Fair enough... Check your pm.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 11, 2015 9:03:06 GMT -5
It was all talk with the football stadium as well until it wasn't... let's be clear here-- I never said Football stadium wouldn't be built, and I'm not saying Sefcu will never be gutted and renovated --all I'm saying is there is nothing in the "works" for that project at this time. I'm sure its all Alb fans hope that it someday happens-- and that day will surely come, when they day is, well that's the part up for debate these type things normally take years to go from talking stage to something actually happening do you have a link for gutting and renovating sefcu is #1 priority? I would think getting football budget up to CAA standards would be #1 priority( but hey what do i know) just saying please don't pass off your hope and desires as UA official athletic dept policy Benson said it in an interview several weeks back on TV broadcast of football game. Obviously I hear other things.
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Post by Tony on Dec 11, 2015 9:04:07 GMT -5
Unless of course UA is committing to being mediocre in CAA-- UA's football budget is 3.7 million, James madison for comparison is over 8 million. I would think addressing that imbalance would be #1 priority for UA athletic dept..still waiting for link saying gutting and renovating Sefcu is #1 priority, hell send me link from official UA sources even talking about that
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Post by clickclack on Dec 11, 2015 9:06:18 GMT -5
Unless of course UA is committing to being mediocre in CAA-- UA's football budget is 3.7 million, James madison for comparison is over 8 million. I would think addressing that imbalance would be #1 priority for UA athletic dept..still waiting for link saying gutting and renovating Sefcu is #1 priority, hell send me link from official UA sources even talking about that I understand you are trying to catch me in a gotcha... You know of exactly how these things work, they aren't announced publicly or you look like Siena with egg on your face. How's the athletic renovations coming along...? Like I already said, Benson was on half time interview this fall talking about it. Sorry I don't have video if the interview.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 11, 2015 9:20:17 GMT -5
UAlbany is a solid program the likes of which Siena should aspire to. Siena should just be grateful they're allowed in their town.
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