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Post by glen on Dec 10, 2015 22:07:33 GMT -5
ClickClack - UA has done well, no doubt but they have NEVER won a real up game. Siena isn't an up game. I'm talking about a big time BCS win akin to Monmouth beating UCLA and USC...or Radford beating G'Town.
This is where UA fans miss the bigger picture. Sure, I can see how kicking our ass feels good and is a point of pride. I get that, but beating a WAY DOWN Siena team only makes UA better than Siena ... it doesn't make UA good.
All that said, I think UA wins this year even though I hope for a Siena win. *IF* we limit turnovers we'll be much closer, but my bet is that fouls get us. I see both teams going on runs but the game being nip and tuck most of the way until Quis/Brett/Javion/Lavon (one or more) foul out, at which point UA pulls away for the W. I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it.
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Post by CellarRat on Dec 10, 2015 22:16:24 GMT -5
Only reason why UA would go to the CAA would be football. Conference is very regional. Add that the chance e basketball program manking less appearances to the dane and travel budget. Least forget the current debate concerning football and the pipeline of players drying up due to injuries. As far as Siena, they may have already been there if the admin had wanted it and placed the right lilies and protocols in place todo so. What might happen is that the top teams from MAAC and AE consider forming a league and let the traditional cellar dwellers f their own. They are in the CAA for football!
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Post by clickclack on Dec 10, 2015 22:27:54 GMT -5
Only reason why UA would go to the CAA would be football. Conference is very regional. Add that the chance e basketball program manking less appearances to the dane and travel budget. Least forget the current debate concerning football and the pipeline of players drying up due to injuries. As far as Siena, they may have already been there if the admin had wanted it and placed the right lilies and protocols in place todo so. What might happen is that the top teams from MAAC and AE consider forming a league and let the traditional cellar dwellers f their own. They are in the CAA for football! With an open invite for the rest of sports in hand. UA knows they aren't ready right now with facilities etc.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 10, 2015 22:29:29 GMT -5
ClickClack - UA has done well, no doubt but they have NEVER won a real up game. Siena isn't an up game. I'm talking about a big time BCS win akin to Monmouth beating UCLA and USC...or Radford beating G'Town. This is where UA fans miss the bigger picture. Sure, I can see how kicking our ass feels good and is a point of pride. I get that, but beating a WAY DOWN Siena team only makes UA better than Siena ... it doesn't make UA good. All that said, I think UA wins this year even though I hope for a Siena win. *IF* we limit turnovers we'll be much closer, but my bet is that fouls get us. I see both teams going on runs but the game being nip and tuck most of the way until Quis/Brett/Javion/Lavon (one or more) foul out, at which point UA pulls away for the W. I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it. Glen, UA went a few years ago and beat Washington St. The year after they won the pac12. I know the haven't had a lot of success beating bcs schools but NEVER just isn't true.
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Post by CellarRat on Dec 10, 2015 22:35:09 GMT -5
They are in the CAA for football! With an open invite for the rest of sports in hand. UA knows they aren't ready right now with facilities etc. They'll get there, at least I hope they do. Siena's success is not contingent upon UA's failure and vice versa. Both teams can succeed and I'd actually prefer it that way. Of course, with the exception of when we play each other.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 10, 2015 22:39:38 GMT -5
With an open invite for the rest of sports in hand. UA knows they aren't ready right now with facilities etc. They'll get there, at least I hope they do. Siena's success is not contingent upon UA's failure and vice versa. Both teams can succeed and I'd actually prefer it that way. Of course, with the exception of when we play each other. I think that's true, and I think this competition drives both athletic programs. There are enough fans in the cd to support both programs. I think people on both sides lie about what's at stake here... Let's face it, this is Siena and UA biggest game of the year unless tourney games are on the docket or ncaa appearances. People claiming otherwise are fools. Brett bisping just the other day indicated to reporters that this specific game was part of the recruiting pitch. So I don't want to hear from Dave that this is Albanys superbowl. Your own kid to the media is saying how big this is for them. It's big for UA too...
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Post by CellarRat on Dec 10, 2015 22:43:19 GMT -5
It's your super bowl but it shouldn't be. It's like Holmes beating Ali after his prime. I think UA needs this game more than Siena.
The game for Siena has done nothing but put unneeded pressure on the players and coach to win. The desire and requirement to win is not proportional to the importance of the game IMO.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 10, 2015 22:44:44 GMT -5
It's your super bowl but it shouldn't be. It's like Holmes beating Ali after his prime. I think UA needs this game more than Siena. No, I don't think so... It's fun but we've lost it in the past and went to the ncaas. That's the goal... This one is nice on the way there, especially this year you shouldn't be an rpi killer like in years past.
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Post by CellarRat on Dec 10, 2015 22:46:02 GMT -5
The game for Siena has done nothing but put unneeded pressure on the players and coach to win. The desire and requirement to win this game is not proportional to the importance of the game IMO.
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Post by clickclack on Dec 10, 2015 22:52:20 GMT -5
The game for Siena has done nothing but put unneeded pressure on the players and coach to win. The desire and requirement to win this game is not proportional to the importance of the game IMO. It's almost maxes your building out, no other game does that. It gets you coverage and media attention in your building.
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Post by hoopjunkie on Dec 11, 2015 2:30:08 GMT -5
ClickClack - UA has done well, no doubt but they have NEVER won a real up game. Siena isn't an up game. I'm talking about a big time BCS win akin to Monmouth beating UCLA and USC...or Radford beating G'Town. This is where UA fans miss the bigger picture. Sure, I can see how kicking our ass feels good and is a point of pride. I get that, but beating a WAY DOWN Siena team only makes UA better than Siena ... it doesn't make UA good. All that said, I think UA wins this year even though I hope for a Siena win. *IF* we limit turnovers we'll be much closer, but my bet is that fouls get us. I see both teams going on runs but the game being nip and tuck most of the way until Quis/Brett/Javion/Lavon (one or more) foul out, at which point UA pulls away for the W. I hope I'm wrong but that's how I see it. Glen, UA went a few years ago and beat Washington St. The year after they won the pac12. I know the haven't had a lot of success beating bcs schools but NEVER just isn't true. No, you beat Washington a few years ago, not St. (see, must not have been that big a win if YOU can't even remember it) Utah was also a good win for UA, but nothing equals the press of a NCAA 2nd round win.
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Post by mjs72 on Dec 11, 2015 4:13:19 GMT -5
It's your super bowl but it shouldn't be. It's like Holmes beating Ali after his prime. I think UA needs this game more than Siena. The game for Siena has done nothing but put unneeded pressure on the players and coach to win. The desire and requirement to win is not proportional to the importance of the game IMO. Rat, for those of us who are alums from the late 60s.early 70s when DIII Albany coached by Doc Sauers would upset out highly touted scholarship players almost every year, this game is beyond special. I know UA coms from a (once) lower conference but it is our cross-town, long time rival. And the last three, and four out of five, make that added pressure legitimate this year.
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Post by Tony on Dec 11, 2015 4:59:37 GMT -5
The game for Siena has done nothing but put unneeded pressure on the players and coach to win. The desire and requirement to win this game is not proportional to the importance of the game IMO. It's almost maxes your building out, no other game does that. It gets you coverage and media attention in your building. So much innuendo and outright falsehoods in some of these statements by Clack, lets set the record straight Siena doesn’t need this game for media coverage- since Saints get coverage every game- the program that needs the media attention far more is Albany- look no further than your attendance numbers vs Siena As for Albany men’s basketball budget – Siena men’s budget is 25% bigger, reason why UA is in AE is they cant afford jump to CAA which would require at least a million dollar a year increase. Football team is gobbling up resources with jump to CAA- neither program generates much revenue .in short unless until UA gets massive increases in revenue from either football team or basketball team UA isn’t going anywhere- money just isn’t there. As for Sefcu being gutted and renovated when was that announced ? Perhaps I missed that—Clack you care to post link?
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Post by Tony on Dec 11, 2015 5:06:02 GMT -5
It's your super bowl but it shouldn't be. It's like Holmes beating Ali after his prime. I think UA needs this game more than Siena. No, I don't think so... It's fun but we've lost it in the past and went to the ncaas. That's the goal... This one is nice on the way there, especially this year you shouldn't be an rpi killer like in years past. RPI killer?? Siena has stunk the last few years but any program in the AE shouldn't be talking about RPI killers
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Post by nolesaint on Dec 11, 2015 6:29:02 GMT -5
A rational Siena fan is the norm, not the exception. This board tends to attract the lunatic fringe on occasion. They should not be confused with the vast majority of Siena fans. Are you part of the lunatic fringe? BM, aka Skidmark, has never been confused with one of the aspiring for continued success fanatics.
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